Rumor Going Around ... Haden Failed Drug Test
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Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs.
For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5.
Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs.
For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_II_(US)#Schedule_II_drugs
this puts them in the same schedule (or class, if those are synonyms) and I would definitely believe that the classes could have changed because adderall has really grown in use and abuse in the last 5 years. I had a prescription while in college and people would hound me for that stuff.
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Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs.
For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_II_(US)#Schedule_II_drugs
this puts them in the same schedule (or class, if those are synonyms) and I would definitely believe that the classes could have changed because adderall has really grown in use and abuse in the last 5 years. I had a prescription while in college and people would hound me for that stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_II_(US)#Schedule_II_drugs
this puts them in the same schedule (or class, if those are synonyms) and I would definitely believe that the classes could have changed because adderall has really grown in use and abuse in the last 5 years. I had a prescription while in college and people would hound me for that stuff.
I stand corrected sir. You are right.
Typically c1s have "no accepted medicinal use" which is the loophole most weed advocates cite. I suppose they changed coke since its made from the same plant as a lot of painkillers.
At any rate, thanks for pointing that out. Always good to learn.
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I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.
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tough to lose AMC with all those great shows for another disappointing browns year.
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I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.
I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.
You're missing out BB is the shit.
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I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.
You're missing out BB is the shit.
You're missing out BB is the shit.
besides mad men, the walking dead and hell on wheels.
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Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession
Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.
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Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.
Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.
I know this. Regretfully, I was prescribed to adderall at one point and absolutely hated the way it made me feel. I would have no way of accessing Haden's prescriptions because that should be private and protected information. If you can get that info, I don't want to know how/where you got it

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My point is if he's prescribed to adderall there's absolutely no need to take the risk of buying and using a highly illegal substance like cocaine
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Let's get Haden's suspension out of the way during the same time that Taylor is injured.. those are going to be bad games with growing pains for the offense.
Rip the bandaid off quickly, take our medicine and be done with it.
Let's get Haden's suspension out of the way during the same time that Taylor is injured.. those are going to be bad games with growing pains for the offense.
Rip the bandaid off quickly, take our medicine and be done with it.
Might be a good idea.
Certainly I don't think the Browns will challenge for the playoffs this year. Sorry. It might behoove us to have all these issues out of the way: Haden, Fujita, Taylor etc.
Throw some of these young players into the fire: Winn and Hughes on the D-line, Acho and JMJ at LB, Skrine at Haden's spot.
Once the starters come back, if they do, these kids will have gotten valuable experience....and some may never give up their job (esp JMJ).
Then...for next year....with a year of experience under their belts can you say:
PLAYOFFS! Playoffs?
I talking about Playoffs....not...not...not
(Oh, wait, I seem to be mixing my quotes)
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Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.
I know this. Regretfully, I was prescribed to adderall at one point and absolutely hated the way it made me feel. I would have no way of accessing Haden's prescriptions because that should be private and protected information. If you can get that info, I don't want to know how/where you got it

I know this. Regretfully, I was prescribed to adderall at one point and absolutely hated the way it made me feel. I would have no way of accessing Haden's prescriptions because that should be private and protected information. If you can get that info, I don't want to know how/where you got it

Can you say HIPPA?
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profootballtalk.com had an article earlier about Haden taking adderal while on a trip to Vegas as a "Pick me up". Not saying this is true, but if it is and he is suspended then he needs to come out and say sorry for being an ass and hurting the team.
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Adderall is some good shit. Can't blame Joe for wanting to use it. Top notch performance enhancer. But come on man, get some fake pee or something. Quick fix plus beats a drug test every time.
Adderall is some good shit. Can't blame Joe for wanting to use it. Top notch performance enhancer. But come on man, get some fake pee or something. Quick fix plus beats a drug test every time.
Yeah it is, gets you super focused.
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adderall is meth, literally. not like it, it is it. a prescribable, socially acceptable meth. fwiw, meth is in oxy's, too.
i have a script and it has no noticeable effect on me. btw, those who actually need it don't get high from it...they get normal.
i have no idea if Joe needs it or not but he should know better.
hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again.
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I am neither a Pharmacist nor a Judge. I AM a huge Joe Haden & Browns Fan, so I'll just wait to see what happens. No matter what, Joe, the Browns, & we Fans will live with the decision.
Mike
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What's more important his right to appeal or the fact that he is a drug abuser?
Its adderall. It doesn't really effect your body unless you OD. The effect of it is that it gets you really focused.
Its adderall. It doesn't really effect your body unless you OD. The effect of it is that it gets you really focused.
that's bullshit. anyone who uses it regularly for an extended period of time (like a year plus) who isn't diagnosed as needing it becomes completely useless. it's currently an epidemic at Ivy Schools and places like MIT. they can not function adequately without it...it's like it rewires you.
always remember, everything in moderation people.

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Seems like this generation was brought up convinced they had ADD from grade school and have been medicated ever since.
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not just generation X, generation Y, or generation Next, but America as a whole is targeted to be medicated imho DHBF.
it is my belief that the more "they" keep us all loaded-up the less we will notice and/or care to do something about...but that's for discussion on another board at another time.

signed,
Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist
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Adderall is some good shit. Can't blame Joe for wanting to use it. Top notch performance enhancer. But come on man, get some fake pee or something. Quick fix plus beats a drug test every time.
Yeah it is, gets you super focused.
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adderall is meth, literally. not like it, it is it. a prescribable, socially acceptable meth. fwiw, meth is in oxy's, too.
i have a script and it has no noticeable effect on me. btw, those who actually need it don't get high from it...they get normal.
i have no idea if Joe needs it or not but he should know better.
hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again.
hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again.
my fave browns player too. and i agree ^ 1000%.
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Adderall is some good shit. Can't blame Joe for wanting to use it. Top notch performance enhancer. But come on man, get some fake pee or something. Quick fix plus beats a drug test every time.
Yeah it is, gets you super focused.
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adderall is meth, literally. not like it, it is it. a prescribable, socially acceptable meth. fwiw, meth is in oxy's, too.
i have a script and it has no noticeable effect on me. btw, those who actually need it don't get high from it...they get normal.
i have no idea if Joe needs it or not but he should know better.
hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again.
Yeah it is, gets you super focused.
adderall is meth, literally. not like it, it is it. a prescribable, socially acceptable meth. fwiw, meth is in oxy's, too.
i have a script and it has no noticeable effect on me. btw, those who actually need it don't get high from it...they get normal.
i have no idea if Joe needs it or not but he should know better.
hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again.
I'm mostly a lurker around here, but I wanted to point out that this is not true. Adderall is a regular amphetamine, like speed basically. While these can certainly be harmful and it's not good to use a ton, the harmful effects are not on par with meth (i.e. methamphetamine). Don't want to get too technical on a football board, but there is an extra methyl (chemistry anyone?) in methamphetamine that alters the way it interacts with your system.
I definitely agree that adderall use is an epidemic at the Ivys and probably many schools. Most of the people that went to undergrad here on my campus tried it or used it regularly for cramming.
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not just generation X, generation Y, or generation Next, but America as a whole is targeted to be medicated imho DHBF.
it is my belief that the more "they" keep us all loaded-up the less we will notice and/or care to do something about...but that's for discussion on another board at another time.

signed,
Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist
not just generation X, generation Y, or generation Next, but America as a whole is targeted to be medicated imho DHBF.
it is my belief that the more "they" keep us all loaded-up the less we will notice and/or care to do something about...but that's for discussion on another board at another time.

signed,
Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist
I agree. I don't ever remember as a kid seeing 2 minute long commercials for all these drugs. And the list of side effects is mind numbing. "Oh, you have restless leg syndrome, take these pills that will paralyze you from the nuts down, and give you suicidal thoughts while you experience the shits out of your belly button".
My wife and I have a friend who swears she has ADD at almost 40 years old. She can be scattered brain in her thoughts and her speech but she doesn't lose focus on things and she finishes what she starts. Just because she will during a conversation get off on tangents and talk your ear off doesn't mean she has ADD. However, she went to the DR. and he/her put her on something. She tells everyone "I have ADD"... no you don't. You just want to have something wrong with you.
There are people that just want to have something wrong with them and that is who all these pharmaceutical companies are going after.
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