Brandon Frye (Bf)
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I just rewatched the game and this thread is Retarded.
Weeden is much better than Colt and Frye and DA. He is more mobile than he is given credit for as well.
I am excited for the season.
I just rewatched the game and this thread is Retarded.
Weeden is much better than Colt and Frye and DA. He is more mobile than he is given credit for as well.
I am excited for the season.
I'm excited too. Frye was a 3rd rounder that won 2 of his first 5 year as a Brown. DA was a 6th rounder that we picked up off the scrap pile and he went to th Pro-Bowl in his first year. There should be no problem for our 1st round BF to take us to the playoffs. I'm pumped.
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so tell me why they should have wasted 3 picks to trade up? if we didn't get TR we would have at least got the #1 CB. don't get me wrong i like heckert but last year was one of his worse drafts yet. i hope to whoever above that TR turns out to be a 7 year pro bowler. but to this day i have yet to see him anywhere on tv cuz he's not playing. so who's to know that he was the right pick?
and can we see mccoy play with the first team offense? what are H and H scared to be exposed as falling back on their words again? or scared to say dewek ambusun?
WOW yet another Retarded fan...grow up and get a life. THEY have seen TRich play, thats all that matters. THEY (FO) are choosing Weeden over Colt. Go cry yourself in a corner, or did you suddenly think that your opinion mattered? You don't sign anyones payroll check i'm pretty sure, so chances are you've got less than ZERO chance of anyone on the Browns organization listening to you. As a matter of fact you are part of the problem always screaming for the BACKUP no matter who that is to go in at first sign of trouble. I bet you wanted DeCastro too didnt you, guess what...torn ACL MCL. A lot of good that's doing the Steelers now right.
WOW yet another Retarded fan...grow up and get a life. THEY have seen TRich play, thats all that matters. THEY (FO) are choosing Weeden over Colt. Go cry yourself in a corner, or did you suddenly think that your opinion mattered? You don't sign anyones payroll check i'm pretty sure, so chances are you've got less than ZERO chance of anyone on the Browns organization listening to you. As a matter of fact you are part of the problem always screaming for the BACKUP no matter who that is to go in at first sign of trouble. I bet you wanted DeCastro too didnt you, guess what...torn ACL MCL. A lot of good that's doing the Steelers now right.
^^THIS^^ EXACTLY THIS!! God that was refreshing to read!! Good post my man!
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^^THIS^^EXACTLY THIS!! God that was refreshing to read!! Good post my man!
.....oops, 'ding' fries are done.
keep to flippin burgers and not your lips. douche.
great avatar btw. guess flipping burgers and running the drive thru window are the only 2 things you really are (in)capable of.
now go get your shine box, dickhead.
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Blah blah blah why dont you do us all a favor and go hang yourself in a closet somewhere. We all know youve been wanting to do it for a long time, just grow a pair and fucking do it already
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Blah blah blah why dont you do us all a favor and go hang yourself in a closet somewhere. We all know youve been wanting to do it for a long time, just grow a pair and fucking do it already
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If you draft a 3rd round QB in the 1st round, does that make him a better player? This year represents an interesting experiment. Frye had pretty good chemistry with Braylon Edwards. Let's hope that BF can develop the same thing with Gordon. I'm re-watching the game on STO and trying to find something to be optimistic about.
BTW, if we turn out to be as bad as the experts predict, it won't be because of of BF, the Offensive Line, or the dropped passes (all of which we've been watching for the past several years), it will be because of our continued awful defense. We continue to suck-year after after year. Putrid. The Eagles defense was forcing turnovers, laying hard hits, and making plays. Our D did none of that. Here is a surprise for many Browns fans (including Rich and Ghoolie)- you won't many games if you don't force a punt.
It is sad to see that our dreaded QB selection skills are shining through again, the worst one for me was the 3rd & 9 with 8mins left in the first qtr. Little wide open, plenty of time and protection to deliver the ball, but Weeden has to try and beat the radar gun as if he is still at pitching practise for baseball. Mike H in his Bleacher report said this was on Little, that's bullshit Little never had chance to get there slowing down when see ball sailin way in front and above where it should have been. Weeden's lucky he's been named starter cause if we were using the logical solution of playing the guy who gives you the best chance to win, well I'm afraid that's still McCoy no matter how crap people seem to think he is.

and Ed, your right about the Defense, 3 games and only 1 sack compared with Eagles,Bengals with 14, as you say not going to help you win much. Interceptions seem to be ok so that does seem a plus point for the Defense, lets all just hope come Sept 9th Weeden will click and the rest of the team show us what we hope they can be, big IF at the moment though.
It is sad to see that our dreaded QB selection skills are shining through again, the worst one for me was the 3rd & 9 with 8mins left in the first qtr. Little wide open, plenty of time and protection to deliver the ball, but Weeden has to try and beat the radar gun as if he is still at pitching practise for baseball. Mike H in his Bleacher report said this was on Little, that's bullshit Little never had chance to get there slowing down when see ball sailin way in front and above where it should have been. Weeden's lucky he's been named starter cause if we were using the logical solution of playing the guy who gives you the best chance to win, well I'm afraid that's still McCoy no matter how crap people seem to think he is.

and Ed, your right about the Defense, 3 games and only 1 sack compared with Eagles,Bengals with 14, as you say not going to help you win much. Interceptions seem to be ok so that does seem a plus point for the Defense, lets all just hope come Sept 9th Weeden will click and the rest of the team show us what we hope they can be, big IF at the moment though.
What you are saying is that you hope we don't have DA Jr.?
Caught a bit of DA Sr. in the Carolina game last night. He is still as innaccurate as ever.
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Trade rumor swirling...Weeden & Hardesty to Jags for 2nd round pick. Haslam really wants to get enough chips to pick up Bray next year. Thank god the expirement is done.
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It is sad to see that our dreaded QB selection skills are shining through again, the worst one for me was the 3rd & 9 with 8mins left in the first qtr. Little wide open, plenty of time and protection to deliver the ball, but Weeden has to try and beat the radar gun as if he is still at pitching practise for baseball. Mike H in his Bleacher report said this was on Little, that's bullshit Little never had chance to get there slowing down when see ball sailin way in front and above where it should have been. Weeden's lucky he's been named starter cause if we were using the logical solution of playing the guy who gives you the best chance to win, well I'm afraid that's still McCoy no matter how crap people seem to think he is.

and Ed, your right about the Defense, 3 games and only 1 sack compared with Eagles,Bengals with 14, as you say not going to help you win much. Interceptions seem to be ok so that does seem a plus point for the Defense, lets all just hope come Sept 9th Weeden will click and the rest of the team show us what we hope they can be, big IF at the moment though.
What you are saying is that you hope we don't have DA Jr.?
Caught a bit of DA Sr. in the Carolina game last night. He is still as innaccurate as ever.
What you are saying is that you hope we don't have DA Jr.?
Caught a bit of DA Sr. in the Carolina game last night. He is still as innaccurate as ever.
Yes I guess you could say that, but I dont think Weeden is that bad, and as has to be taken into account he is a Rookie, so hopefully any mistake he is making will be ironed out quick enough, He came out of College with 72% Comp final year but through Pre-Season so far has dropped down to 49%, so something is wrong there, and dont say better defense as there are also better receivers also, that said ours haven't shown the greatest skills last year or so, but still one the main resons he was brought in was his accuracy. So fingers crossed Wk 1 versus the Eagles I will be hoping his Comp % back up towards 60% if he is hoping to win some games this year.
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Trade rumor swirling...Weeden & Hardesty to Jags for 2nd round pick. Haslam really wants to get enough chips to pick up Bray next year. Thank god the expirement is done.
Trade rumor swirling...Weeden & Hardesty to Jags for 2nd round pick. Haslam really wants to get enough chips to pick up Bray next year. Thank god the expirement is done.
I don't think Jimmy Haslam is that parochial that he would maneuver things just to go after a Tennessee QB, do you?
Besides, Hardesty IS a Tennessee player. Why would he want to dump him?
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The people who drafted him the 1st are professionals, you are not. They know what they are doing. You can't say he should have gone in the 3rd round. These are the same people saying we shouldn't have traded up for Richardson because he was going to be there at 4. How can anyone possibly know this stuff.
so tell me why they should have wasted 3 picks to trade up? if we didn't get TR we would have at least got the #1 CB. don't get me wrong i like heckert but last year was one of his worse drafts yet. i hope to whoever above that TR turns out to be a 7 year pro bowler. but to this day i have yet to see him anywhere on tv cuz he's not playing. so who's to know that he was the right pick?
and can we see mccoy play with the first team offense? what are H and H scared to be exposed as falling back on their words again? or scared to say dewek ambusun?
and can we see mccoy play with the first team offense?
no.
what are H and H scared to be exposed as falling back on their words again?
yes.
Colt is clearly playing better than Weeden right now, it would be instant controversy. quietly it already is.
Colt McCoy is playing his ass off. it seems nearly impossible to hold that kid down.
still, Weeden's ceiling is higher, and his accuracy is the best Cleveland's seen since Holcolmb. why is it always like this?!?
Yeah, let's get the #1 CB when we already have the best CB in the AFC North.
sweet! the Browns haven't claimed both AFC pro bowl CB spots since Hanford and Minni! i don't think any other team has even done that besides the Browns, maybe on some dusty pre-war audio-less B&W reels but certainly not in the modern age. how cool if they did it twice!
Let's not get an RB, even though our best RB on the roster is a 3rd stringer from Houston.
That makes sense.
It's about the pressing need. We needed one good RB more than we needed a second good CB.
For the record, I was against the Richardson pickup. But it makes sense, and I'm okay with it now.
if Hillis has a bigger year as a backup in KC than TRich does, start looking for the pitchforks around playoff-time.
.....you'll recognize us by the skull and bones cheerleaders out front picketing signs of my blown up Holmy avatar, doctored up with blacked out tooth and eye patch. arrr!!
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This entire thread is pure "insanity" Really? The team gets killed in a pre-season game by a team with far greater talent andn we all jump ship. There was no gameplanning or scheming going on at all, and our best offensive player still isn't playing... give me a break.
And, Weeden has already shown that he is far better than McCoy. He has made throws that Colt has never come close to already. BUT, he's a rookie. He can get rattled by the pass rush, he still needs to develop chemistry with the receivers, and the game is still faster than he is anticipating. Give him a break, Weeden has nothing to do with how bad the team looked against PHI.
Calling him Brandon Frye???? WTF?? How can you even compare the two? Seriously. Vent all you want, but please let's have a little confidence in our guys
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who's jumping ship? seriously? if someone were to 'jump ship' being a browns' fan, don't you think they would have done it a long time ago?
just stating opinions.
get with the program rookie.
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who's jumping ship? seriously? if someone were to 'jump ship' being a browns' fan, don't you think they would have done it a long time ago?
just stating opinions.
get with the program rookie.
who's jumping ship? seriously? if someone were to 'jump ship' being a browns' fan, don't you think they would have done it a long time ago?
just stating opinions.
get with the program rookie.
Rookie?
ahh yes, judging by that incredible post I should probably look up to you for being such a great message board guy.
See. If I post crap like this all the time maybe I'll get a couple thousand posts.
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Yeah it's too bad that's the best he can do...OH GOD I'M SOOOOOOO HURT I'M GONNA GO JUMP OFF A BRIDGE NOW!!!!
Once again I reiterate that people like this are CLEARLY what's wrong with our fanbase. We used to have a tough blue-collar hard nosed intelligent fanbase that could hold a decent conversation about football. Now we have IMMATURITY at it's fullest. I realize that losing as much as this team has lost has caused a lot of knee-jerk reactions but seriously, COME ON MAN!!!! This team will never be better without a QB that can make all the throws needed. I'm not totally sold on Weeden either, but after watching Colt I can understand why they felt the need to make that decision. Colt could have gone through another season until we picked up a QB next year, but how would YOU have handled that if he looked like he did last year. The O line ain't lookin spectacular, and TRich was supposed to come in and help. They assessed Colt and determined it was time, I for one am in no position to argue. As far as what I do for a living, what does it matter, it's not running a football team so i'm not going to act like I know how to do it...
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Colt played his ass off last pre season. Colt played with the 1st team last season as the starter and tripped all over his dick. Wow, he's having a great pre season again...with the 2nd team. Big deal. Weeden is 3 weeks into this offense with a revolving door on the right side of the line and a RB that can't catch or hold on to the football to save his life. I'm willing to give BW more than 4 qtrs of pre season play before I pass judgement.
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who's jumping ship? seriously? if someone were to 'jump ship' being a browns' fan, don't you think they would have done it a long time ago?
just stating opinions.
get with the program rookie.
Rookie?
ahh yes, judging by that incredible post I should probably look up to you for being such a great message board guy.
See. If I post crap like this all the time maybe I'll get a couple thousand posts.
See. If I post crap like this all the time maybe I'll get a couple thousand posts.
so you post crap?
i knew it.
nothing original, satirical, statistical or funny.
where do you live?
Yeah it's too bad that's the best he can do...OH GOD I'M SOOOOOOO HURT I'M GONNA GO JUMP OFF A BRIDGE NOW!!!!
Once again I reiterate that people like this are CLEARLY what's wrong with our fanbase.
so you get to decide how each and every fan should act? go fuck yourself.
you still didn't tell me where you live.
scared?
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Agree xanthos.
Youre average fan is in it for entertainment....has little football IQ. Thatd be fine if they realized it....but alas, they rather think they know better.
Its the way of the world. Look around....no longer are intelligent put on a pedestal, the world is designed around the least common denominator.
Its sad....and making me shy away from the online browns community. Frankly, i have better football conversations with steeler fans....at least they talk football points. Far less chicken littles....
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Agree xanthos.
Youre average fan is in it for entertainment....has little football IQ. Thatd be fine if they realized it....but alas, they rather think they know better.
Its the way of the world. Look around....no longer are intelligent put on a pedestal, the world is designed around the least common denominator.
Its sad....and making me shy away from the online browns community. Frankly, i have better football conversations with steeler fans....at least they talk football points. Far less chicken littles....
Agree xanthos.
Youre average fan is in it for entertainment....has little football IQ. Thatd be fine if they realized it....but alas, they rather think they know better.
Its the way of the world. Look around....no longer are intelligent put on a pedestal, the world is designed around the least common denominator.
Its sad....and making me shy away from the online browns community. Frankly, i have better football conversations with steeler fans....at least they talk football points. Far less chicken littles....
the high and mighty has once again blessed us with his presence albeit he has turned steeler troll.
if the fan wasn't in it for the entertainment then why even watch the games? hell playing madden for some is entertainment.
don't chastise other fans for booing at what we've been watching for the last 12 years: a bad horror movie with no plot, bad acting but a hint of a sequel at the end.
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Great...fine. go on acting like u did 45 years ago. Its very becoming of grown adults acting like, and using similar trains of logic to, pre-pubescent children. Really don't care. Just forwarding my disinterest in this whiny, bitchy narrative rather than talk football.
By all means, continue displaying your lack of football IQ and repeated overreacting to non-stories, preseason stats, and personal grudge against the management. Its your right as a fan....and its also my right to laugh at your ignorance.
All reasonable fans should expect a finished product with so many rookies starting....right? Firing on all cylinders right from the get go....lmao....
Lets call this spade a spade. 3/4 of this fanbase manifests its own destiny.....you want to win right fucking now, complain about constant change, then demand change if players, coaches, and FO hit honeruns with every single call, acquisition, or decision....and do so kicking and screaming while closing your eyes and ears. You make mountains our of molehills.....all....the......time.
Sorry if relating that other fanbases recognize rookies struggle and give them time to develop, and actually let the draft process work. Sorry that Clevelands inferiority complex has pushed the need to win to manifest as stupidity/irrationality, cause we know that sports mean everything in life. Keep telling yourself acting like an idiot is justified.
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To the rest of you, take care and GO BROWNS! We know things are lookin up, it's only a matter of time.

Otherwise....I'm done. In writing the above, I realize this phenomena of negativity wont go away until we have 5 sequential post season appearances, so civilized discourse is just outta the question given my personality.
Ill be back post Superbowl victory....
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