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  • heckofajobbrownie H
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    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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    Well, my grandmother had the brogue, so not too far for me.

    But yes, at some point it's strange. I don't need to go back to Stonehenge, and for the most part I don't care anyway.

    Generally, though, and for obvious reasons, the people who cling to their identity most are the people who had it stolen from them, or were oppressed. The Irish are similar in this regard.

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      @westside-steve said:

      Of course having a family from Haiti means she isn't African American.

      WSS

      My French is a little rusty, but I'm pretty sure Haiti translates to "Pit-stop"

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      F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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      @legacy-fan said:

      My French is a little rusty, but I'm pretty sure Haiti translates to "Pit-stop"

      You sound like an elitist / racist there pal, who's "pit stop"? there are real people living there.

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        @legacy-fan said:

        My French is a little rusty, but I'm pretty sure Haiti translates to "Pit-stop"

        You sound like an elitist / racist there pal, who's "pit stop"? there are real people living there.

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        Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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        @fairhooker11 said:

        You sound like an elitist / racist there pal, who's "pit stop"? there are real people living there.

        Haiti was part of the slave trade triangle. Which is why it would be absolutely accurate/allowable for someone of Haitian descent to refer to themselves as African American.

        Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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          @fairhooker11 said:

          You sound like an elitist / racist there pal, who's "pit stop"? there are real people living there.

          Haiti was part of the slave trade triangle. Which is why it would be absolutely accurate/allowable for someone of Haitian descent to refer to themselves as African American.

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          @legacy-fan said:

          Haiti was part of the slave trade triangle. Which is why it would be absolutely accurate/allowable for someone of Haitian descent to refer to themselves as African American.

          Again I'll nit pick.

          If my family came from Ireland 200 + years a go, and I then moved to say Germany, I wouldn't think my children would be called Irish Germans.

          WSS

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            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            Haiti is a shit hole island full of lazy people. Just a fact. Look at there status after how many years after the earthquake? Pitiful.

            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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              Haiti is a shit hole island full of lazy people. Just a fact. Look at there status after how many years after the earthquake? Pitiful.

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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              Haiti is a shit hole island full of lazy people. Just a fact. Look at there status after how many years after the earthquake? Pitiful.

              They also have about zero resources to draw from, so while I agree with you to some degree, it does go beyond that

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                @legacy-fan said:

                Haiti was part of the slave trade triangle. Which is why it would be absolutely accurate/allowable for someone of Haitian descent to refer to themselves as African American.

                Again I'll nit pick.

                If my family came from Ireland 200 + years a go, and I then moved to say Germany, I wouldn't think my children would be called Irish Germans.

                WSS

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                H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                Again I'll nit pick.

                If my family came from Ireland 200 + years a go, and I then moved to say Germany, I wouldn't think my children would be called Irish Germans.

                WSS

                Why not? That's how you'd describe your ancestry - as Irish. You'd be an Irish-American living in Germany. If your family had gone straight from Ireland to Germany you'd be Irish-German. Just like there are lots of German Turks and Algerian French. Just like Mia Love is an American of African ancestry (also called an African-American) and living in Utah.

                I don't know what the big deal is. Is it that you'd like African-Americans to forget about the whole African part and be just "Americans"? Well, they are just Americans. And when you want to expand on that, and describe their ancestry, you use the term African-American. Just like you do with Irish, German, Mexican, Italian, etc.

                I hope we don't spend lots of time on stuff like this. Let's move on.

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Again I'll nit pick.

                  If my family came from Ireland 200 + years a go, and I then moved to say Germany, I wouldn't think my children would be called Irish Germans.

                  WSS

                  Why not? That's how you'd describe your ancestry - as Irish. You'd be an Irish-American living in Germany. If your family had gone straight from Ireland to Germany you'd be Irish-German. Just like there are lots of German Turks and Algerian French. Just like Mia Love is an American of African ancestry (also called an African-American) and living in Utah.

                  I don't know what the big deal is. Is it that you'd like African-Americans to forget about the whole African part and be just "Americans"? Well, they are just Americans. And when you want to expand on that, and describe their ancestry, you use the term African-American. Just like you do with Irish, German, Mexican, Italian, etc.

                  I hope we don't spend lots of time on stuff like this. Let's move on.

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                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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                  @heckofajobbrownie said:

                  Why not? That's how you'd describe your ancestry - as Irish. You'd be an Irish-American living in Germany. If your family had gone straight from Ireland to Germany you'd be Irish-German. Just like there are lots of German Turks and Algerian French. Just like Mia Love is an American of African ancestry (also called an African-American) and living in Utah.

                  I don't know what the big deal is. Is it that you'd like African-Americans to forget about the whole African part and be just "Americans"? Well, they are just Americans. And when you want to expand on that, and describe their ancestry, you use the term African-American. Just like you do with Irish, German, Mexican, Italian, etc.

                  I hope we don't spend lots of time on stuff like this. Let's move on.

                  Are you really for real, or just a made up person?

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                    @legacy-fan said:

                    Haiti was part of the slave trade triangle. Which is why it would be absolutely accurate/allowable for someone of Haitian descent to refer to themselves as African American.

                    Again I'll nit pick.

                    If my family came from Ireland 200 + years a go, and I then moved to say Germany, I wouldn't think my children would be called Irish Germans.

                    WSS

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                    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Again I'll nit pick.

                    If my family came from Ireland 200 + years a go, and I then moved to say Germany, I wouldn't think my children would be called Irish Germans.

                    WSS

                    Heck's response was pretty much the same I'd give. I'm just not really sure I understand the problem with acknowledging your ancestry. I don't think Mayor Love (Awesome) goes around introducing herself as "African-American Mia Love" That would be strange. But if the ancestry topic came up, it's absolutely normal for her to acknowledge wherever it is her family hails from. Just as it would be totally normal for you to bring up "Irish" when discussing your children in your scenario above.

                    Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Again I'll nit pick.

                      If my family came from Ireland 200 + years a go, and I then moved to say Germany, I wouldn't think my children would be called Irish Germans.

                      WSS

                      Why not? That's how you'd describe your ancestry - as Irish. You'd be an Irish-American living in Germany. If your family had gone straight from Ireland to Germany you'd be Irish-German. Just like there are lots of German Turks and Algerian French. Just like Mia Love is an American of African ancestry (also called an African-American) and living in Utah.

                      I don't know what the big deal is. Is it that you'd like African-Americans to forget about the whole African part and be just "Americans"? Well, they are just Americans. And when you want to expand on that, and describe their ancestry, you use the term African-American. Just like you do with Irish, German, Mexican, Italian, etc.

                      I hope we don't spend lots of time on stuff like this. Let's move on.

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                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                      @heckofajobbrownie said:

                      Why not? That's how you'd describe your ancestry - as Irish. You'd be an Irish-American living in Germany. If your family had gone straight from Ireland to Germany you'd be Irish-German. Just like there are lots of German Turks and Algerian French. Just like Mia Love is an American of African ancestry (also called an African-American) and living in Utah.

                      I don't know what the big deal is. Is it that you'd like African-Americans to forget about the whole African part and be just "Americans"? Well, they are just Americans. And when you want to expand on that, and describe their ancestry, you use the term African-American. Just like you do with Irish, German, Mexican, Italian, etc.

                      I hope we don't spend lots of time on stuff like this. Let's move on.

                      No ulterior motive, Heck, nothing rancorous.

                      Relax.

                      WSS

                      www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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