Art Modell
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Joined the board just to express my disgust at how Art Modell ultimately crushed the hearts of Clevelanders.
Even though I moved from Cleveland in 87, I was a loyal Browns fan from birth (1963) until the day that they became the Ravens.
The NFL has not been the same for me since then.
As I Christian, I have resolved to stop hating Modell, and I have recanted my long stated promise to urinate on his headstone.
But I hope that the reports that Modell died broke are true and I hope that he NEVER makes the Hall of Fame.
As a Christian
But I hope that the reports that Modell died broke are true and I hope that he NEVER makes the Hall of Fame.
what a joke.
you just proved my point that religion means nothing. just a tool for repression and war.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
I shared many years of glory and heartbreak with Art Modell's Cleveland Browns. I feel sad that he has passed away. He was a generous and kind man.
That's good for you. I, on the other hand, was born in the late 80's, and by the time I started caring about the Browns, the team was taken away. I didn't really follow the NFL until our return. And damn was I excited.
I got to see us draft Tim Couch and Courtney Brown.
I got to watch an NFL referee end the career of one of our linemen.
I got to watch us get fucked out of the playoffs by the referees against Jacksonville. (I'm glad bottlegate happened)
I have only a single memory of the Browns in the playoffs, and it's a shitty one.
I got the pleasure of watching what used to be our team bring a Super Bowl title to Baltimore.
I saw the Charlie Frye experiment. Brady Quinn. Fuck. Where's the picture of that asshole with all their names on their jersey?
I guess I've seen a record turnover of head coaches and starting quarterbacks, so maybe that's something.
I saw the shittiest ownership in the league with the Lerners. Seriously. Worse than Al Davis.
I saw drafting and free agency that put us on par with Matt Millen.
He is the only owner to win 2 NFL championships, one with each of two different teams. His accomplishments in the league are many. It is a shame the NFL didn't have the testicular fortitude to let the man into the HOF while he was alive. Now? It means nothing.
Good. Fuck that guy and fuck the Lerners too. I'm glad Art will never get to pat himself on the back. This guy turned what I love into the steaming pile of shit we've been watching for the past 12 years.
For Fuck's sake, the greatest memories I have of the team were when Derek Anderson was the quarterback.
Christ.
For Fuck's sake, the greatest memories I have of the team were when Derek Anderson was the quarterback.
Christ.
That's an awesome quote ... but oh my God we have been sooo fucking pathetic, its beyond sad. The greatest thing in the new era was bottlegate, I'm trying to think of anything else to add ... ummm ... the tailgate parties and many friends met were awesome ... umm ... I saw some old men fight in the stands once ...
Thank God for High School football.
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The 2002 season when they made the playoffs, perhaps?
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
As a Christian
But I hope that the reports that Modell died broke are true and I hope that he NEVER makes the Hall of Fame.
what a joke.
you just proved my point that religion means nothing. just a tool for repression and war.
what a joke.
you just proved my point that religion means nothing. just a tool for repression and war.
I'm glad you feel validated.
Am I to presume then that all the atheists wanted Modell to die rich and make the Hall of Fame?
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The 2002 season when they made the playoffs, perhaps?
The 2002 season when they made the playoffs, perhaps?
Oh yeah ... a real knee slapper of a good time there.
Bring back the UFO offense ... and bottles.
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It's better than going 4-12
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Rohon said:
He moved our team because we were not supporting it and the city turned its back on him. Lets make sure that does not happen again.
Bullshit, you don't know dick. He moved the team because he lost money from the Indians moving from the stadium. Cleveland voters overwhelmingly approved the aforementioned tax issue to remodel Cleveland Stadium. It was purely about money asshole.
Bullshit, you don't know dick. He moved the team because he lost money from the Indians moving from the stadium. Cleveland voters overwhelmingly approved the aforementioned tax issue to remodel Cleveland Stadium. It was purely about money asshole.
Kosar, I was wondering- didnt Modell want a new stadium like the Indians got along with further concession and parking revenues? The city wanted to call his bluff and offered the remodel instead?
I guess I was like you when I heard the news of his passing, but kind of want to learn more about the man himself and the thought processes he went through.
condolences to the Modell family - peace
Hope for a respectful moment of rememberance if its done Sunday...
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Is horrendously funny when I think that Modell only paid 28k to purchase the Browns with some kind of civil bonds...the man was always a crook...good riddence
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The 2002 season when they made the playoffs, perhaps?
Oh yeah ... a real knee slapper of a good time there.
Bring back the UFO offense ... and bottles.
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I believe that if this team wasn't so horribly awful since being reborn in 1999, more people would let go of the hatred for Modell. Watching the Ravens being competive year after year and even winning a super bowl really pisses most of us off. If we had a great franchise here instead of a bunch of jokers running it, the response to Modells death might be so what, in the long run we are glad he sold and left town.
Ten years ago I'd have lined up to piss on his grave. Today, I'm just going to refrain from celebrating anyones death, even Art's.
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Really? You got to be kidding! viewing a casket at M&T stadium in Baltimore Sunday sound like fun?
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Bullshit, you don't know dick. He moved the team because he lost money from the Indians moving from the stadium. Cleveland voters overwhelmingly approved the aforementioned tax issue to remodel Cleveland Stadium. It was purely about money asshole.
Kosar, I was wondering- didnt Modell want a new stadium like the Indians got along with further concession and parking revenues? The city wanted to call his bluff and offered the remodel instead?
I guess I was like you when I heard the news of his passing, but kind of want to learn more about the man himself and the thought processes he went through.
condolences to the Modell family - peace
Hope for a respectful moment of rememberance if its done Sunday...
Kosar, I was wondering- didnt Modell want a new stadium like the Indians got along with further concession and parking revenues? The city wanted to call his bluff and offered the remodel instead?
I guess I was like you when I heard the news of his passing, but kind of want to learn more about the man himself and the thought processes he went through.
condolences to the Modell family - peace
Hope for a respectful moment of rememberance if its done Sunday...
He was originally offered to be part of the Gateway project with the cavs and indians, but refused(don't remember the reason). I think he preferred to have his stadium renovated through a city wide tax, which passed even though it was announce before the vote that he had decided to leave.
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So? You think that electing a black man President is as notorious as those other events?
Maybe THAT comment of yours is a true revelation about you. -The Gipper.
not to me. but a historical event anyways. no. i'm not a right wing money grubbing weasel. so a black president to me was a good thing.
i bet ya YOU never thought YOU"D see it in YOUR lifetime.
So? You think that electing a black man President is as notorious as those other events?
Maybe THAT comment of yours is a true revelation about you. -The Gipper.
not to me. but a historical event anyways. no. i'm not a right wing money grubbing weasel. so a black president to me was a good thing.
i bet ya YOU never thought YOU"D see it in YOUR lifetime.
I don't know. I saw it in movies and TV where guys like Morgan Freeman and Dennis Haysbert and Danny Glover and maybe others had portrayed the President long before Obama was elected. So when it actually happened it didn't seem like that big of a deal.
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Modell's 2 bad acts outweigh any good he ever did.
Firing Paul Brown and moving the team sealed his fate
Modell's 2 bad acts outweigh any good he ever did.
Firing Paul Brown and moving the team sealed his fate
Yea, that would be like saying: we should judge OJ Simpson on how well he ran the football....on the field or through airports. Not on whether he may have killed his ex-wife and another or on the fact that he committed armed robbery.
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Bullshit, you don't know dick. He moved the team because he lost money from the Indians moving from the stadium. Cleveland voters overwhelmingly approved the aforementioned tax issue to remodel Cleveland Stadium. It was purely about money asshole.
Kosar, I was wondering- didnt Modell want a new stadium like the Indians got along with further concession and parking revenues? The city wanted to call his bluff and offered the remodel instead?
I guess I was like you when I heard the news of his passing, but kind of want to learn more about the man himself and the thought processes he went through.
condolences to the Modell family - peace
Hope for a respectful moment of rememberance if its done Sunday...
Kosar, I was wondering- didnt Modell want a new stadium like the Indians got along with further concession and parking revenues? The city wanted to call his bluff and offered the remodel instead?
It was not the city that came up with the remodel proposal (which was patterned along the lines of the remodeling of the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville...which by the way, is the stadium the Jags use to this day), it was proposed by Modell himself.
I guess I was like you when I heard the news of his passing, but kind of want to learn more about the man himself and the thought processes he went through.
condolences to the Modell family - peace
Hope for a respectful moment of rememberance if its done Sunday...
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Bottom Line....Final Word on Modell:
The guy was dead to me long ago, particularly after he gave up control of the Ravens. So, to me, personally, his actual physical demise is basically irrelevent.
Let's play some football.
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So? You think that electing a black man President is as notorious as those other events?
Maybe THAT comment of yours is a true revelation about you. -The Gipper.
not to me. but a historical event anyways. no. i'm not a right wing money grubbing weasel. so a black president to me was a good thing.
i bet ya YOU never thought YOU"D see it in YOUR lifetime.
I don't know. I saw it in movies and TV where guys like Morgan Freeman and Dennis Haysbert and Danny Glover and maybe others had portrayed the President long before Obama was elected. So when it actually happened it didn't seem like that big of a deal.
I don't know. I saw it in movies and TV where guys like Morgan Freeman and Dennis Haysbert and Danny Glover and maybe others had portrayed the President long before Obama was elected. So when it actually happened it didn't seem like that big of a deal.
now that is funny. touche' sir.
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Am I to presume then that all the atheists wanted Modell to die rich and make the Hall of Fame?
how do you know i'm aetheist asshole? just because i don't believe in following some mass religion where people are told what to do and how to act, doesn't mean i'm aetheist. it means i have a free will. i'm not going to go into a drawn out story of what i've seen in and out of church go on with you brainwashed cattle. it would take to long and you're not worth it. i believe in being good to every living being on this planet (unless you're someone trying to destroy this country) and not to be a scumbag. how's that?
i just thought wishing a man to be sufferingly broke at the time of his passing to be very christian of you. and to give another kick into his side, wish an honor that might well be bestowed upon him in the near future (HOF) to never happen, goes to show your true colors, johnny satan.
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Am I to presume then that all the atheists wanted Modell to die rich and make the Hall of Fame?
how do you know i'm aetheist asshole? just because i don't believe in following some mass religion where people are told what to do and how to act, doesn't mean i'm aetheist. it means i have a free will. i'm not going to go into a drawn out story of what i've seen in and out of church go on with you brainwashed cattle. it would take to long and you're not worth it. i believe in being good to every living being on this planet (unless you're someone trying to destroy this country) and not to be a scumbag. how's that?
i just thought wishing a man to be sufferingly broke at the time of his passing to be very christian of you. and to give another kick into his side, wish an honor that might well be bestowed upon him in the near future (HOF) to never happen, goes to show your true colors, johnny satan.
how do you know i'm aetheist asshole? just because i don't believe in following some mass religion where people are told what to do and how to act, doesn't mean i'm aetheist. it means i have a free will. i'm not going to go into a drawn out story of what i've seen in and out of church go on with you brainwashed cattle. it would take to long and you're not worth it. i believe in being good to every living being on this planet (unless you're someone trying to destroy this country) and not to be a scumbag. how's that?
i just thought wishing a man to be sufferingly broke at the time of his passing to be very christian of you. and to give another kick into his side, wish an honor that might well be bestowed upon him in the near future (HOF) to never happen, goes to show your true colors, johnny satan.
Why would he be any more HOF worthy now when he wasn't before. Like I said, his actual physical demise is irrelevent.
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Really? You got to be kidding! viewing a casket at M&T stadium in Baltimore Sunday sound like fun?
Really? You got to be kidding! viewing a casket at M&T stadium in Baltimore Sunday sound like fun?
One RPG from the stands would be loads of fun.
We still love ya Art.
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