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  • Browns149 Browns149B Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    Great News

    HE CAN'T DO ANY WORSE

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      From CBSsports.com http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/20121280/notes-mjds-fines-halved-no-new-deal-for-wallace

      "Banner to become Browns top executive next month

      Joe Banner, longtime president of the Philadelphia Eagles and a figure keenly responsible for helping them construct a new stadium and reverse their fortunes on the field, will officially join the Cleveland Browns by late October, according to a source familiar with the transition plans of new Browns owner Jimmy Haslam.Banner has been working with Haslam since before his first discussion with Randy Lerner to purchase the team, the source said, and will be the top executive in the organization, beneath only Haslam.

      The vote to approve Haslam's purchase of the team will be voted on during the NFL's annual fall meeting in October, and Banner will then assume his new role shortly thereafter.Current team president Mike Holmgren is expected to reach a settlement with the new group at some point to end his tenure there, while the source indicated that Haslam and Banner will take their time evaluating coaches and front office staff, and that major, immediate changes are unlikely beyond Holmgren's ouster. Haslam has been careful not make any moves until after the purchase become official."

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      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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      @d-bone said:

      From CBSsports.com http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/20121280/notes-mjds-fines-halved-no-new-deal-for-wallace

      "Banner to become Browns top executive next month

      while the source indicated that Haslam and Banner will take their time evaluating coaches and front office staff, and that major, immediate changes are unlikely beyond Holmgren's ouster. Haslam has been careful not make any moves until after the purchase become official."

      What's to evaluate? Shurmur 0-5 and still has deer in the headlight look when Haslam takes over, he hits the road along with Bug Waldrus. Promote Jauron to interim HC.

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        @d-bone said:

        From CBSsports.com http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/20121280/notes-mjds-fines-halved-no-new-deal-for-wallace

        "Banner to become Browns top executive next month

        while the source indicated that Haslam and Banner will take their time evaluating coaches and front office staff, and that major, immediate changes are unlikely beyond Holmgren's ouster. Haslam has been careful not make any moves until after the purchase become official."

        What's to evaluate? Shurmur 0-5 and still has deer in the headlight look when Haslam takes over, he hits the road along with Bug Waldrus. Promote Jauron to interim HC.

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        The Italian DawgPoundT The Italian DawgPound wrote on last edited by
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        @hoorta said:

        Promote Jauron to interim HC.

        Amen!

        All the way from Torino to Cleveland: GO BROWNS!!!!!!!
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        • Harry Buffalo Harry BuffaloH
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          Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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          I haven't read anything official about what I am about to say but saw it on Grossi's twitter. Apparently Haslam stepped down as CEO of Flying J yesterday. Taking steps to be a more full time owner.

          Ruining threads since 1897.
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            H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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            I personally don't mind Holmgren, but the thought of Shurmur getting the boot has me so excited. Great news!

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              @d-bone said:

              From CBSsports.com http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/20121280/notes-mjds-fines-halved-no-new-deal-for-wallace

              "Banner to become Browns top executive next month

              while the source indicated that Haslam and Banner will take their time evaluating coaches and front office staff, and that major, immediate changes are unlikely beyond Holmgren's ouster. Haslam has been careful not make any moves until after the purchase become official."

              What's to evaluate? Shurmur 0-5 and still has deer in the headlight look when Haslam takes over, he hits the road along with Bug Waldrus. Promote Jauron to interim HC.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              @hoorta said:

              What's to evaluate? Shurmur 0-5 and still has deer in the headlight look when Haslam takes over, he hits the road along with Bug Waldrus. Promote Jauron to interim HC.

              My feelings exactly Shurmer is not fit to be a head coach.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                Cleveland won't miss his fat ass.

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                  Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                  @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                  Well again, I felt all along that Holmgren, like most men, after having achieved such great success in his career, just didn't have the fire that drove him the first time around.

                  Seriously, I am sure he meant well when he took the job, but once in the posh position/ C mon, who's gonna be up at 5 30 AM for drills.

                  I think the takeaway here is that Haslam is not going to sit on ass. Quick move, versus playing politically correct and waiting until 2013....? Positive news in my estimation.

                  Who hacked Ghoolie's account? This is way to rational to be Ghoolie.

                  Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                    BrownB499B BrownB499 wrote on last edited by
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                    After the hiring... then firing of Phil Savage

                    The hiring of Mangini..then hiring Kokinos with the recommendation of Mangini...then firing Kokinos with the recommendation of Mangini

                    The hiring of Holmgren was an admission by Lerner that "I don't know what the hell I'm doing"

                    Holmgren gave the organization instant credibility...did it give us instant success...no ...but it slowed the downward spiral

                    In Haslams initial presser he stated that they have a certain method to success that involved putting key people in key positions....and that his method is proven...and it works!

                    I'm on board with Jimmy...Let the house cleaning begin!!!

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                      M Momszer wrote on last edited by Momszer
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                      Is this official enough for you?

                      http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/sep/11/new-ceo-pilot-flying-j/

                      http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/09/cleveland_browns_owner_jimmy_h.html

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                        Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                        Here is Banner as he watched the Browns offense Sunday ... 1st Quarter through 4th Quarter...

                        hulk_banner.jpg

                        Zombo

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                          WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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                          well Holmgren probably was the most useless person of all time... The biggest waste of money I have seen. He will never get another front office job...

                          I am very excited for the new owner. Looks like some one who cares and actually give a shit!

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                            well Holmgren probably was the most useless person of all time... The biggest waste of money I have seen. He will never get another front office job...

                            I am very excited for the new owner. Looks like some one who cares and actually give a shit!

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                            hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                            @wrrebel said:

                            well Holmgren probably was the most useless person of all time... The biggest waste of money I have seen. He will never get another front office job...

                            I am very excited for the new owner. Looks like some one who cares and actually give a shit!

                            Actually in that picture Haslam looks like a Marine Officer who isn't going to put up with any BS.

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                              slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by slowburn
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                              I rode the elevator at CBS with jowl face Holmgren and his wife b4 St Louis cluster fcuk last November. He had the look of a beaten man

                              (although she wasn't bad to look at). No surprise to see him hit the trail.

                              Congratulations Banner!!!! Enjoy all that crazy loot!

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                                H Horn of Lake Erie wrote on last edited by
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                                This made my day. Walrus, Shurmur, and Heckler... may your lack of production and may the end of a dead beat, status quo Browns regime bid you farewell. Until now, the Browns FO was run like the government, full of a bunch of do-nothings who only cared about their paycheck. Now, the organization will run like a well tuned corporation, full of people who still want a paycheck (of course) but strive for bigger and better. Love it

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                                  LoyaltyL Loyalty wrote on last edited by
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                                  Did Banner have any dealings with Heckert in Philly?... I suppose I could look it up, but it is something that makes me wonder if they are kindred spirits or eachother's nemesis.

                                  "A winner never whines." Paul Brown
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                                    BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                                    This is old new it's just now made official I guess.

                                    It was reported a long time ago Banner would be coming in with a top executive position.

                                    Holmren's tombstone was written when Haslam made sure Lerner was responsible to pay out the remainder of his contract.

                                    As for Shurmur and Heckert idk, but everything I've heard about Hecker and Banner in Philly is that they'd butt heads a lot.

                                    "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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                                      WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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                                      Holmgren, The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end

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                                        BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by BrownsKidd
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                                        Also heard that Haslam has hired someone from Pepsi Co. to run his truck stops. Something changed his mind in the last five weeks to make him want to take control of what is going on here in Cleveland. For me, this sounds like a great thing. Shurmur will be gone and we will get someone in here who will take full advantage of the talent we have... let's at least hope so. A great point people are making is that when you look at Washington, they have adopted an offense around RG3. But here in Cleveland, the idiots try and cram a completely new offense down the throat of Weeden and everyone else.

                                        These offenses are working in College, why are there bull headed guys in the NFL that don't see that?

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                                          Also heard that Haslam has hired someone from Pepsi Co. to run his truck stops. Something changed his mind in the last five weeks to make him want to take control of what is going on here in Cleveland. For me, this sounds like a great thing. Shurmur will be gone and we will get someone in here who will take full advantage of the talent we have... let's at least hope so. A great point people are making is that when you look at Washington, they have adopted an offense around RG3. But here in Cleveland, the idiots try and cram a completely new offense down the throat of Weeden and everyone else.

                                          These offenses are working in College, why are there bull headed guys in the NFL that don't see that?

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                                          BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                                          @brownskidd said:

                                          Also heard that Haslam has hired someone from Pepsi Co. to run his truck stops. Something changed his mind in the last five weeks to make him want to take control of what is going on here in Cleveland. For me, this sounds like a great thing. Shurmur will be gone and we will get someone in here who will take full advantage of the talent we have... let's at least hope so. A great point people are making is that when you look at Washington, they have adopted an offense around RG3. But here in Cleveland, the idiots try and cram a completely new offense down the throat of Weeden and everyone else.

                                          These offenses are working in College, why are there bull headed guys in the NFL that don't see that?

                                          But we need to implement the West Coast Offense. Dont you know that is the only way to win games. Seriously though, If they had adapted to a players strength then Colt might have been a half decent QB. I'm pretty sure you can design plays which take advantage of his mobility and relatively lower arm strength. Is is any wonder that the best year that Colt had as a Brown was under Eric Mangini in his final year where they were forced to play to win and not to implement an archaic system?

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