Stop With The Back Up Qb Thing
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There is a reason why they are called back ups, they are not good enough to start!!!! Did we forget watching colt last year. take away the first game of the season. Weeden has not looked bad for a ROOKIE in the NFL...
Andrew Luck
850 yards passing
53.3% Comp %
75 QB Rating
He was the first pick and he looks like the first pick in the draft, we all kneww we was a stud
RG3
747 passing yards
67% comp %
103.5 QB rating
Again we was drated 2nd some thought he should go first, we all knew he was a stud.thats why the Browns tried to move up to get him
Weeden
677 passing yards
56.5% comp %
60.7% Qb rating
Take away that first game and his stats our 100000 times better
Game 2 of Weeden NFL career against Cincy was better than ANY OF COLTS 22 GAMES AS A STARTER, justing looking at stats...
I am not saying Weeden is the answer, but I like him 100x more the noodle arm Colt. Weeds will be fine
If you want to place blame on anyone, it needs to be Defense we look lost out there the last 2 games...And its not because Haden is out...
Aslo Look for Benjeman to have break out game against ravens
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Lol it's not that I love our backup it's just that Weeden looks nothing like a 1st round QB, and nothing like a complete product.
Both Luck and Griffin are far better, and far younger.
Colt could've started this year and sucked it up, and I wouldn't have cared because we would have done 2 things.
1. We would've have gotten a complete assessment of McCoy.
2. Colt's contract would have been up, leaving us the opportunity to move on at QB without any cost.
Now we're supposed to give a 29 year old 2-3 years to develop into a good QB while giving us a window of 2-3 years of good football before having to replace Weeden. Not only are we hoping that Weeden pans out(which is unlikely), we're not building a contender we're only trying to do the bare minimum to make the playoffs.
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Lol it's not that I love our backup it's just that Weeden looks nothing like a 1st round QB, and nothing like a complete product.
Both Luck and Griffin are far better, and far younger.
Colt could've started this year and sucked it up, and I wouldn't have cared because we would have done 2 things.
1. We would've have gotten a complete assessment of McCoy.
2. Colt's contract would have been up, leaving us the opportunity to move on at QB without any cost.
Now we're supposed to give a 29 year old 2-3 years to develop into a good QB while giving us a window of 2-3 years of good football before having to replace Weeden. Not only are we hoping that Weeden pans out(which is unlikely), we're not building a contender we're only trying to do the bare minimum to make the playoffs.
6 yrs without having to worry about the qb position. sounds good to me.Lol it's not that I love our backup it's just that Weeden looks nothing like a 1st round QB, and nothing like a complete product.
Both Luck and Griffin are far better, and far younger.
Colt could've started this year and sucked it up, and I wouldn't have cared because we would have done 2 things.
1. We would've have gotten a complete assessment of McCoy.
2. Colt's contract would have been up, leaving us the opportunity to move on at QB without any cost.
Now we're supposed to give a 29 year old 2-3 years to develop into a good QB while giving us a window of 2-3 years of good football before having to replace Weeden. Not only are we hoping that Weeden pans out(which is unlikely), we're not building a contender we're only trying to do the bare minimum to make the playoffs.
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Except we have to wait for Weeden to be good, which isn't gonna be this year or next year.
Then pow, he's 31, going on 32, in his physical decline.
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22 games of seeing Colt was enough for me.....
I hate Browns fans on this board, you have no clue about football. you think Colt os a good QB, dont want to give a rookie a chance. Call for the coaches head after first 2 games..lets think about what I have seen on this board for 5 yrs
Everyone hated Magini wanted new coach get new coach want Magini back
Everyone hated Jake they want Colt 2010
everyone hated Quinn they wanted DA 2009
Everyone Hated Quinn they wanted DA 2008
Everone Hated DA they wanted Quinn 2007
Everyone Frye they wanted DA 2006
Everyone hated Dilfer they wanted Frye 2005
Everyone hated Garcia they wanted Holcomb 2004
Get the point on this board everyone wants the Back-up, so they put the back up in, and guess what...WE STILL SUCK
Weeden has played 3 NFL games and already we want a guy who in 22 games could not do what Weeden did in his second game in the NFL. Let me guess you dont want Trich in there either we want Hardesty back there..Give me a break...
Every year on this board its the samething
Every year FIRE THE COACH
Every year fIRE THE QB, PUT THE BACK UP IN
Every year BLOW UP THE FRONT OFFICE
I am glad that Holgram has held his ground with all the bullshit Browns fans. Did the pats, packers, Lions, 49ers become good over night...NO The loins were really bad for 20 yrs, remember the Aints, how about the Pats in the 90s....
We will win most of our games at the end of the year, when these Rookies have about 7 to 8 NFL games under them... Weeden is fine
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22 games is enough for me to realize that Colt cannot throw the ball down field, nor does he want to.
Weeden gives us the better chance to win, and he is our rookie.
Weeden starts 12/13 games and Haslem/FO decides that he isnt't our future and want a second look at Colt in the last 3-4 games fine I guess, maybe he shows enough for us to not take a QB until the 3rd round, who knows
Weeden is at least exciting to watch. He airs the ball out. Weeden is a better DA to Colts worse Quinn... With Colt we are seeing a lot more 3 and outs, even though we are seeing a ton already.
If we're gonna take Weeden out of the starting lineup put in Thadeus Lewis, kid could be real fun to watch.
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^^^^^Agreed! Lets be Honest though, we hate losing like we do. We always seem to be the team that completely fucks themselves when it matters the most. Every game there are like 5 plays the woulda coulda shoulda been the play that won us the game. What I take out of the games though is how young we are. I know Weeden is older, but he will be much improved by next year. We have some really hungry young talent on this team for once though. We have guys beating guys 1 on 1 down the side lines, we have undrafted players kicking ass and taking names and we have a rookie RT that has more than held his own over there against some damn good rushes. Hell Thomas has more costly penalties than he does anyway. Growing Pains suck, but we are going to get better. You either have to believe it "shit" or root for someone else "get off the pot". I love all you crazy fucks. Go Browns!!!
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Every year we love the backup unless he's a black guy.
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Except we have to wait for Weeden to be good, which isn't gonna be this year or next year.
Then pow, he's 31, going on 32, in his physical decline.
Except we have to wait for Weeden to be good, which isn't gonna be this year or next year.
Then pow, he's 31, going on 32, in his physical decline.
It's not equivalent to being 31 and 32 after having way more years in the NFL, because you're not taking all those hard hits and not moving as much so you're not declining the knees.
If he takes good care of his body it will be more like he's 28-29 when he turns 31-32. Physical decline is least important in the QB position where all they need is to have a strong arm and be mentally sharp.
With positions like RB and WR it's a different story.
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Except we have to wait for Weeden to be good, which isn't gonna be this year or next year.
Then pow, he's 31, going on 32, in his physical decline.
It's not equivalent to being 31 and 32 after having way more years in the NFL, because you're not taking all those hard hits and not moving as much so you're not declining the knees.
If he takes good care of his body it will be more like he's 28-29 when he turns 31-32. Physical decline is least important in the QB position where all they need is to have a strong arm and be mentally sharp.
With positions like RB and WR it's a different story.
u mean like Kurt warner the HOF'ERIt's not equivalent to being 31 and 32 after having way more years in the NFL, because you're not taking all those hard hits and not moving as much so you're not declining the knees.
If he takes good care of his body it will be more like he's 28-29 when he turns 31-32. Physical decline is least important in the QB position where all they need is to have a strong arm and be mentally sharp.
With positions like RB and WR it's a different story.
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u mean like Kurt warner the HOF'ERIt's not equivalent to being 31 and 32 after having way more years in the NFL, because you're not taking all those hard hits and not moving as much so you're not declining the knees.
If he takes good care of his body it will be more like he's 28-29 when he turns 31-32. Physical decline is least important in the QB position where all they need is to have a strong arm and be mentally sharp.
With positions like RB and WR it's a different story.
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Weeden will be fine, he's better than Brady Quinn II.
Signed,
The QB Guru
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I would have liked to see Colt start start the season while Weeden learned more about the NFL game. As soon as the team had 3 more losses than they did wins, I would have switched over to Weeden and started the "new era". Therefore, no lingering questions about Colt and Weeden would have been more NFL ready than what we saw against Philly.
I do think Colt is capable of the deep throw. I think he would have killed Philly in Game 1. I think he has climbed the learning curve. I saw that last year against Cinci when he took two drives the length of the field for TD's. And I think we forget the dropped passes last year. Way too many of them.
I like Weeden and think he's going to do well. But I think we needed to be more patient with him before starting with this calibre of a team. But I know he's old for a rookie, and I know that coaching jobs are on the line.
Now that we've started Weeden, we need to stick with him for a couple of years.
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22 games of seeing Colt was enough for me.....
I hate Browns fans on this board, you have no clue about football. you think Colt os a good QB, dont want to give a rookie a chance. Call for the coaches head after first 2 games..lets think about what I have seen on this board for 5 yrs
Everyone hated Magini wanted new coach get new coach want Magini back
Everyone hated Jake they want Colt 2010
everyone hated Quinn they wanted DA 2009
Everyone Hated Quinn they wanted DA 2008
Everone Hated DA they wanted Quinn 2007
Everyone Frye they wanted DA 2006
Everyone hated Dilfer they wanted Frye 2005
Everyone hated Garcia they wanted Holcomb 2004
Get the point on this board everyone wants the Back-up, so they put the back up in, and guess what...WE STILL SUCK
Weeden has played 3 NFL games and already we want a guy who in 22 games could not do what Weeden did in his second game in the NFL. Let me guess you dont want Trich in there either we want Hardesty back there..Give me a break...
Every year on this board its the samething
Every year FIRE THE COACH
Every year fIRE THE QB, PUT THE BACK UP IN
Every year BLOW UP THE FRONT OFFICE
I am glad that Holgram has held his ground with all the bullshit Browns fans. Did the pats, packers, Lions, 49ers become good over night...NO The loins were really bad for 20 yrs, remember the Aints, how about the Pats in the 90s....
We will win most of our games at the end of the year, when these Rookies have about 7 to 8 NFL games under them... Weeden is fine
Everyone hated Jake they want Colt 2010
everyone hated Quinn they wanted DA 2009
Everyone Hated Quinn they wanted DA 2008
Everyone Hated DA they wanted Quinn 2007
Everyone Frye they wanted DA 2006
Everyone hated Dilfer they wanted Frye 2005
Everyone hated Garcia they wanted Holcomb 2004
22 games of seeing Colt was enough for me.....
I am glad that Holgram has held his ground with all the bullshit Browns fans. Did the pats, packers, Lions, 49ers become good over night...NO The loins were really bad for 20 yrs, remember the Aints, how about the Pats in the 90s....
We will win most of our games at the end of the year, when these Rookies have about 7 to 8 NFL games under them... Weeden is fine
Regarding those Browns qbs- they had one thing in common- they all SUCKED!!! We're in the position we are exactly because barring Anderson's one fluke 1\2 season- the Browns haven't had a true franchise qb since Bernie Kosar. Ever think some of the guys recognized a turd when they saw one?
BTW, Shurmur has lost 9 games in a row- and I'm betting it will be 11 after we play the Ratbirds and Giants. Guy still looks lost & calls a lousy game. So how much slack you willing to give him?
He'll be following Holmgren out the door IMO. And FWIW, I was NOT one of the Mangini bashers. That one is all on Mike for giving an utterly unready guy a head coaching gig as a favor to his pal Fritz. Remember the Rams fans who came over here after we hired Pat and thanked us for taking a lousy coach off their hands?
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Except we have to wait for Weeden to be good, which isn't gonna be this year or next year.
Then pow, he's 31, going on 32, in his physical decline.
Except we have to wait for Weeden to be good, which isn't gonna be this year or next year.
Then pow, he's 31, going on 32, in his physical decline.
One difference with Weeden is he didn't play football for those years. So he will not have the physical contact that someone playing those years would. So I disagree with your assessment.
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Except we have to wait for Weeden to be good, which isn't gonna be this year or next year.
Then pow, he's 31, going on 32, in his physical decline.
It's not equivalent to being 31 and 32 after having way more years in the NFL, because you're not taking all those hard hits and not moving as much so you're not declining the knees.
If he takes good care of his body it will be more like he's 28-29 when he turns 31-32. Physical decline is least important in the QB position where all they need is to have a strong arm and be mentally sharp.
With positions like RB and WR it's a different story.
It's not equivalent to being 31 and 32 after having way more years in the NFL, because you're not taking all those hard hits and not moving as much so you're not declining the knees.
If he takes good care of his body it will be more like he's 28-29 when he turns 31-32. Physical decline is least important in the QB position where all they need is to have a strong arm and be mentally sharp.
With positions like RB and WR it's a different story.
This guy was a pitcher throwing 99 MPH. I'm sure his arm has it's wear and tear. And he's not mentally sharp, overthrowing receivers and getting caught under flags.
We've got a long way to go.
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22 games is enough for me to realize that Colt cannot throw the ball down field, nor does he want to.
Weeden gives us the better chance to win, and he is our rookie.
Weeden starts 12/13 games and Haslem/FO decides that he isnt't our future and want a second look at Colt in the last 3-4 games fine I guess, maybe he shows enough for us to not take a QB until the 3rd round, who knows
Weeden is at least exciting to watch. He airs the ball out. Weeden is a better DA to Colts worse Quinn... With Colt we are seeing a lot more 3 and outs, even though we are seeing a ton already.
If we're gonna take Weeden out of the starting lineup put in Thadeus Lewis, kid could be real fun to watch.
22 games is enough for me to realize that Colt cannot throw the ball down field, nor does he want to.
Weeden gives us the better chance to win, and he is our rookie.
Weeden starts 12/13 games and Haslem/FO decides that he isnt't our future and want a second look at Colt in the last 3-4 games fine I guess, maybe he shows enough for us to not take a QB until the 3rd round, who knows
Weeden is at least exciting to watch. He airs the ball out. Weeden is a better DA to Colts worse Quinn... With Colt we are seeing a lot more 3 and outs, even though we are seeing a ton already.
If we're gonna take Weeden out of the starting lineup put in Thadeus Lewis, kid could be real fun to watch.
I've come to the conclusion that most of my fellow Cleveland fans are total fucking mouth-breathers. Did you just say put in Thaddeus Lewis? This kid PLAYED QB AT FUCKING DUKE. There's a reason he's a 3rd string QB.
Shurmur CALLS THE PLAYS NOT THE QB. Colt can throw the ball, and he can do much more outside of throwing that Weeden will NEVER be able to do. Weeden has a much better supporting cast around him with more weapons and is doing even worse than Colt 3 games into the WCO.
Weeden isn't exciting to watch, it's nerve racking. The guy can have 6 seconds in the pocket and still underthrow his WR.
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Colt was drafted in the third round, got a couple years of NFL experience, and teams would not offer a sixth or seventh round pick for him. People who think McNoodlearm is the answer need their heads examined. The entire no talent around him is phony. Weeden has practically the same line and caliber receivers and bested McCoy's best game in his second start. Give Weeden a year to get acclimated to the NFL just like every other rookie quarterback with sane fans gets, and then start judging year two. Unreal..
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It just blows my mind that people still want Colt...Where the hell is Goolie on this...Goolie I need to please!!!!
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22 games is enough for me to realize that Colt cannot throw the ball down field, nor does he want to.
Weeden gives us the better chance to win, and he is our rookie.
Weeden starts 12/13 games and Haslem/FO decides that he isnt't our future and want a second look at Colt in the last 3-4 games fine I guess, maybe he shows enough for us to not take a QB until the 3rd round, who knows
Weeden is at least exciting to watch. He airs the ball out. Weeden is a better DA to Colts worse Quinn... With Colt we are seeing a lot more 3 and outs, even though we are seeing a ton already.
If we're gonna take Weeden out of the starting lineup put in Thadeus Lewis, kid could be real fun to watch.
I've come to the conclusion that most of my fellow Cleveland fans are total fucking mouth-breathers. Did you just say put in Thaddeus Lewis? This kid PLAYED QB AT FUCKING DUKE. There's a reason he's a 3rd string QB.
Shurmur CALLS THE PLAYS NOT THE QB. Colt can throw the ball, and he can do much more outside of throwing that Weeden will NEVER be able to do. Weeden has a much better supporting cast around him with more weapons and is doing even worse than Colt 3 games into the WCO.
Weeden isn't exciting to watch, it's nerve racking. The guy can have 6 seconds in the pocket and still underthrow his WR.
I've come to the conclusion that most of my fellow Cleveland fans are total fucking mouth-breathers. Did you just say put in Thaddeus Lewis? This kid PLAYED QB AT FUCKING DUKE. There's a reason he's a 3rd string QB.
Shurmur CALLS THE PLAYS NOT THE QB. Colt can throw the ball, and he can do much more outside of throwing that Weeden will NEVER be able to do. Weeden has a much better supporting cast around him with more weapons and is doing even worse than Colt 3 games into the WCO.
Weeden isn't exciting to watch, it's nerve racking. The guy can have 6 seconds in the pocket and still underthrow his WR.
They have the exact same supporting cast, are you stupid?
Colt had Little, a WR who didn't play any college ball last year. Weeden has Gordon, a WR who didn't play any college ball last year.
Colt had Hillis, a bruising between the tackles runner. Weeden has Richardson, who is not even that...yet.
They both have MoMass.
They both have Watson.
They have the same offensive line+ Mitchell Schwartz who has been utterly awful.
Who does Weeden have that is better than what Colt had? Did we have some big name FA signee that I just completely missed?
Fact of the matter is, it took Weeden 2 games to do what Colt couldn't do in 22. Colt was never supposed to be "the guy". Most third round QB's aren't picked to be "the guy". Colt is what we all knew he was, a capable backup if you absolutely need him to be.
Weeden is the talent that we need at QB. He's going to have his mistakes, all rookies do. Once RG3 and Luck have a bad game, you think fans will be calling for their heads?
After reading your responses I think it's you who is the mouth-breather, chap. Stop calling for your man-crush Colt, and sack up.
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