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  • No, the #1 next year will not go towards D. Good teams are built around great OL, DL, and QB. We'll have 1.5 of those this year - when Taylor comes back, we'll have great DL play, and average OL play.

    I fully expect to keep the #1 and draft Barkley.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
    hoortaH The GipperT 2 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Endymion said:

    I had to check the stats, as I could've sworn you were talking about the Steelers. Pittsburgh gave up 119 yards nearly doubling Oaklands ground output from the first two games. Palmer completed 24/34 for 202 yards, we registered 1 sack for -7 yards and the defense was gift wrapped an opening play interception. My god the Browns are catching up. The end is definately near for the Steelers.

    Maybe. Probably because the Steelers are sliding some.

    Yea, the Browns are in the middle of a youth movement. Hopefully they will "age" by the second half of this season.

    Age is showing up on the Steeler's defense.

    Hopefully the Browns offense will be on an upswing arch like this: /

    And the Steelers on a downswing arch like this: \

    And somewhere they will meet in the middle:

    \/

    /\

    @the-gipper said:

    Maybe. Probably because the Steelers are sliding some.

    Yea, the Browns are in the middle of a youth movement. Hopefully they will "age" by the second half of this season.

    And until then we will...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Sure i will talk defense, our defense will actually look like a superbowl defense against your crappy team. That sad part it's not even remotely as good as it will look this week. Our defense is not the vaunted and feared d it used to be. Here's to drafting a pass rushing specialist next year.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • U Unsympathetic

    No, the #1 next year will not go towards D. Good teams are built around great OL, DL, and QB. We'll have 1.5 of those this year - when Taylor comes back, we'll have great DL play, and average OL play.

    I fully expect to keep the #1 and draft Barkley.

    @unsympathetic said:

    No, the #1 next year will not go towards D. Good teams are built around great OL, DL, and QB. We'll have 1.5 of those this year - when Taylor comes back, we'll have great DL play, and average OL play.

    I fully expect to keep the #1 and draft Barkley.

    Unless Weeden absolutely stinks the rest of the year I don't see any conceivable way the Browns will draft Barkley.

    Yup, in my book the #1 need is a stud OLB. Fujita's getting up there, and Maiava is a journeyman talent at best.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Endymion said:

    I had to check the stats, as I could've sworn you were talking about the Steelers. Pittsburgh gave up 119 yards nearly doubling Oaklands ground output from the first two games. Palmer completed 24/34 for 202 yards, we registered 1 sack for -7 yards and the defense was gift wrapped an opening play interception. My god the Browns are catching up. The end is definately near for the Steelers.

    Maybe. Probably because the Steelers are sliding some.

    Yea, the Browns are in the middle of a youth movement. Hopefully they will "age" by the second half of this season.

    Age is showing up on the Steeler's defense.

    Hopefully the Browns offense will be on an upswing arch like this: /

    And the Steelers on a downswing arch like this: \

    And somewhere they will meet in the middle:

    \/

    /\

    @the-gipper said:

    Maybe. Probably because the Steelers are sliding some.

    Age is showing up on the Steeler's defense.

    I expected the Steelers defense to slide some this year, but they appear to be sliding off a cliff. I wouldn't say the Steelers are old, I would say they drafted poorly on defense the past few years. Bad player personnel selections are starting to become glaringly apparrent. Jason Worilds, Ziggy Hood, Cam Heywood, and Lawerence Timmons all 1/2 round picks have next to zero impact in a game. Tomlin is forcing Hampton as starter, when the undrafted guy McClendon was clearly playing better in camp/pre-season. Ike Taylor is too spooked by Roger Goodell's dream of a kindler/gentler NFL and keeps wanting to hug recievers.

  • Barkley is going to get picked apart... and rightfully so. His passing efficiency is terrible right now and with two wideouts who will probably be 1st or 2nd rounders; that simply should not happen at the college level. He also doesn't have the size, athleticism, or arm strength.

    Jarvis Jones and Barkevious Mingo would be great picks and with the current rookie wage scale it's conceivable to pick them at number one. I personally dislike the guy, but if Tyrann Mathieu declares for the draft after his year off, I would like the Browns to get him to play inside as a nickelback. He will slide because of character issues, and size/speed issue, but he makes impact plays. I always thought Skrine could be a starter, but after watching him, he just isn't instinctive at all. Brown should be let go, and Skrine should be demoted.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • U Unsympathetic

    No, the #1 next year will not go towards D. Good teams are built around great OL, DL, and QB. We'll have 1.5 of those this year - when Taylor comes back, we'll have great DL play, and average OL play.

    I fully expect to keep the #1 and draft Barkley.

    @unsympathetic said:

    No, the #1 next year will not go towards D. Good teams are built around great OL, DL, and QB. We'll have 1.5 of those this year - when Taylor comes back, we'll have great DL play, and average OL play.

    I fully expect to keep the #1 and draft Barkley.

    Jesus H. Fucking Christ. Quit with the Barkley shit. We have a QB on our roster right now better than Barkley.....his name is Colt McCoy....and we have a guy better than McCoy in Weeden.

  • B brownsblow

    Sure i will talk defense, our defense will actually look like a superbowl defense against your crappy team. That sad part it's not even remotely as good as it will look this week. Our defense is not the vaunted and feared d it used to be. Here's to drafting a pass rushing specialist next year.

    @brownsblow said:

    Sure i will talk defense, our defense will actually look like a superbowl defense against your crappy team. That sad part it's not even remotely as good as it will look this week. Our defense is not the vaunted and feared d it used to be. Here's to drafting a pass rushing specialist next year.

    Then you and the Steelers may end up in the same boat: home for the holidays.

  • M mdmusch

    Barkley is going to get picked apart... and rightfully so. His passing efficiency is terrible right now and with two wideouts who will probably be 1st or 2nd rounders; that simply should not happen at the college level. He also doesn't have the size, athleticism, or arm strength.

    Jarvis Jones and Barkevious Mingo would be great picks and with the current rookie wage scale it's conceivable to pick them at number one. I personally dislike the guy, but if Tyrann Mathieu declares for the draft after his year off, I would like the Browns to get him to play inside as a nickelback. He will slide because of character issues, and size/speed issue, but he makes impact plays. I always thought Skrine could be a starter, but after watching him, he just isn't instinctive at all. Brown should be let go, and Skrine should be demoted.

    @mdmusch said:

    Barkley is going to get picked apart... and rightfully so. His passing efficiency is terrible right now and with two wideouts who will probably be 1st or 2nd rounders; that simply should not happen at the college level. He also doesn't have the size, athleticism, or arm strength.

    Finally, someone with a brain. Gracias.

    Jarvis Jones and Barkevious Mingo would be great picks and with the current rookie wage scale it's conceivable to pick them at number one. I personally dislike the guy, but if Tyrann Mathieu declares for the draft after his year off, I would like the Browns to get him to play inside as a nickelback. He will slide because of character issues, and size/speed issue, but he makes impact plays. I always thought Skrine could be a starter, but after watching him, he just isn't instinctive at all. Brown should be let go, and Skrine should be demoted.

    Right now, Jones and Mingo seem likee guys to keep the eyes on.

  • i'll talk to defense. fantasy football defense.

    i benched the browns' D in lieu of the eagles' D this week.

    ray rice and flacco are going to eat us up. better chances that eagles' D looks better against giants as they know each other so well.

    (but i did bench anquan boldin for jeremy maclin. boldin has done squadoosh this year).

    on point: if mathieu is the second round pick him up. that's about where he is projected now. but we need LB help and even DT (who knows how this injury to taylor will affect him going forward. didn't DQ have the same type of torn muscle problem years ago? and finally 4 years later he looks like he's finally over it). i love mathieu (he single-handlely won the first LSU/Alabama matchup last year. could use him as punt kick returner as well as CB).

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