Brandon Weeden Report Card- Week 4
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whatever dude.
can we call it a man crush like you would do if someone was giving a rim job like you do to weeden every week?
yeah he's our qb and i'll support him BUT PLEEZ ....you never gave the same support to our qb last year as you do a guy that looks like howdie doodie and at times has the hollowed out head brains of the dummy too.
right or wrong he's our starter but don't start flaming on some guy that shows more character, leadership, ball control and fire when he's in the game than some retread of DA.
splitting hairs on players' talent and upside is great cannon fodder for fans of the same team who choose to disagree with others but how do you really know that our record would be the same with the other guy in there? yeah weeden has an arm, so does lou ferrigno. betcha weeden sounds as dumb as that half deaf dolt in the huddle. yeah he threw for 320 last week and threw 52 times. his completion % is just over 50 and he has 3 tds compared to 7 ints. that's what probowlers are made of huh?
watch any college football lately? how's that big 12 doing? yeah, they got some tough defenses over there........ NOT!. 70 points in a win? HA! and this is the pool of qbs we've picked from in the last 3 years? these guys wouldn't know how to read a defense if it was taped inside their eyelids.
Didn't RG3 play in the same conference?
I don't hear people complaining about RG3 putting up good numbers against the Big 12.
Didn't Colt also play in the Big 12?
What point were you trying to make?
Didn't RG3 play in the same conference?
I don't hear people complaining about RG3 putting up good numbers against the Big 12.
Didn't Colt also play in the Big 12?
What point were you trying to make?
i'm saying both our #1 and 2 qbs are both from that same conference, come from the same type of spread offense and never saw a top ten defense in their collegiate career. i wasn't complaining about any qb putting up any type of #'s rg3, weeden or mccoy....just saying that conference sure as hell isn't known for any type of defense (at least lately).
so like RG3, weeden or mccoy to line up over the center is a change to their wide open spread offense.
the #'s aren't all there for any of these guys yet to get criticized one way or another. i just pointed out to you that the browns weren't getting blown out when mccoy was starting as well. and if you think about it i would say the defense had more to say about those qb stats than our inept offense.
you know how i feel about both these guys. weeden has the bigger arm. mccoy has the bigger heart. though playing in the spread in college they are 2 completely different qbs. mccoy better suited for a quick slant wco, weeden more pro style down the field guy. take your pick. weeden is starting. great i support him. now can he get us a win?
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LOL. I never heard that kind of support last year while our receivers led the NFL in drops. I hope Weeden wins a game as he goes on to break 4,000 yards.
Last year we a QB with a minor league arm that threw everything behind the receivers. It was painful.
Colt threw for 250 yards once all of last year. Weeden has thrown for over 320 yards twice already this year against tough AFC North defenses.
Same guy is calling the plays. We're just moving the football a lot better. Just imagine when theys guys mature, we may have a real NFL high-powered offense ... that was never going to happen with Colt.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Colt threw for 250 yards once all of last year. Weeden has thrown for over 320 yards twice already this year against tough AFC North defenses.
I don't care if he averages 450 yards per game.
Here is the weird part. If Colt had the same weapons such as TR last year, we wouldn't have drafted high enough to draft TR.
You like height and arm strength, I like wins.
roach (based on your preferences, I'm sure you hated to see Paul McDonald go and hated Sipe)
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Zombo said:
Colt threw for 250 yards once all of last year. Weeden has thrown for over 320 yards twice already this year against tough AFC North defenses.
I don't care if he averages 450 yards per game.
Here is the weird part. If Colt had the same weapons such as TR last year, we wouldn't have drafted high enough to draft TR.
You like height and arm strength, I like wins.
roach (based on your preferences, I'm sure you hated to see Paul McDonald go and hated Sipe)
I don't care if he averages 450 yards per game.
Here is the weird part. If Colt had the same weapons such as TR last year, we wouldn't have drafted high enough to draft TR.
You like height and arm strength, I like wins.
roach (based on your preferences, I'm sure you hated to see Paul McDonald go and hated Sipe)
You like wins? Cool. Colt gave you 6 in his 21 starts that you can treasure forever.
I like guys that produce. Brian Siipe did, Paul McDonalx didn't. Colt McCoy couldn't, Brandon Weeden can.
We can sorround a mediocre Qb with weapons and use words like "moxie" and "spunky" or we can get real like Pit, Balt, and Cincy did and get a guy who can throw the ball all over the field.
And win.
Z
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I don't care if he averages 450 yards per game.
Here is the weird part. If Colt had the same weapons such as TR last year, we wouldn't have drafted high enough to draft TR.
You like height and arm strength, I like wins.
roach (based on your preferences, I'm sure you hated to see Paul McDonald go and hated Sipe)
You like wins? Cool. Colt gave you 6 in his 21 starts that you can treasure forever.
I like guys that produce. Brian Siipe did, Paul McDonalx didn't. Colt McCoy couldn't, Brandon Weeden can.
We can sorround a mediocre Qb with weapons and use words like "moxie" and "spunky" or we can get real like Pit, Balt, and Cincy did and get a guy who can throw the ball all over the field.
And win.
Z
Zombo said:
We can sorround a mediocre Qb with weapons and use words like "moxie" and "spunky" or we can get real like Pit, Balt, and Cincy did and get a guy who can throw the ball all over the field.
And win.
Z
LOL. Nobody has used words like moxie or spunky except you. What I know is that we were two errant Pontbriand snaps from 6 wins last year with a less powerful roster. I'm glad you are fulfilled.
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Last year is last year, you got to move on! Sure it would be nice to have a win or two right now. I agree with zombo 1000% , i see what we've got with weeden and he's only gonna get better! The wins will come and i think when they do start to come we will be seeing more W's than L's........ i like Colt, but Weeden can take the Browns places that colt could only dream about.
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Last year is last year, you got to move on! Sure it would be nice to have a win or two right now. I agree with zombo 1000% , i see what we've got with weeden and he's only gonna get better! The wins will come and i think when they do start to come we will be seeing more W's than L's........ i like Colt, but Weeden can take the Browns places that colt could only dream about.
Last year is last year, you got to move on! Sure it would be nice to have a win or two right now. I agree with zombo 1000% , i see what we've got with weeden and he's only gonna get better! T
Boy, Browns fans sure have changed. Most of us used to go into Sundays expecting a win. Now, many of us go into Sundays hoping to get "better." I miss the old days.
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Honestly with the way the season has looked I'm just hoping to go 4-12 and that's two wins against pittsburgh and 1 a piece between Cincy and B-More....that way when we switch over in ownership we hopefully end up with the #1 pick....Auction it off or take Geno Smith hope we really didn't screw ourselves missing out on RG3 and that he is the real deal......that's where my state of mind is don't put to much tread on T Rich but let the league know he is the real deal and we have a true blue chip back. Expect big things in the future the night is always darkest before the dawn
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Honestly with the way the season has looked I'm just hoping to go 4-12 and that's two wins against pittsburgh and 1 a piece between Cincy and B-More....that way when we switch over in ownership we hopefully end up with the #1 pick....Auction it off or take Geno Smith hope we really didn't screw ourselves missing out on RG3 and that he is the real deal......that's where my state of mind is don't put to much tread on T Rich but let the league know he is the real deal and we have a true blue chip back. Expect big things in the future the night is always darkest before the dawn
Honestly with the way the season has looked I'm just hoping to go 4-12 and that's two wins against pittsburgh and 1 a piece between Cincy and B-More....that way when we switch over in ownership we hopefully end up with the #1 pick....Auction it off or take Geno Smith hope we really didn't screw ourselves missing out on RG3 and that he is the real deal......that's where my state of mind is don't put to much tread on T Rich but let the league know he is the real deal and we have a true blue chip back. Expect big things in the future the night is always darkest before the dawn
What's this taking Geno Smith garbage?
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The guy is 4 games in to his NFL career. At this point I'd give him a A.
I really couldn't expect more....especially after the dud of an opening game. He could have folded, but he didn't. That shows me something.
I am comfortable in saying that as he continues to improve, and he will as he gains more experience, Weeden will be our QB the next 7-9 years.
Yep, it would be nice to say the next 10-12 years, but it is what it is...and it's been a long time since we have had a QB we could ride for 7 or so seasons, so I am good with that.
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Honestly with the way the season has looked I'm just hoping to go 4-12 and that's two wins against pittsburgh and 1 a piece between Cincy and B-More....that way when we switch over in ownership we hopefully end up with the #1 pick....Auction it off or take Geno Smith hope we really didn't screw ourselves missing out on RG3 and that he is the real deal......that's where my state of mind is don't put to much tread on T Rich but let the league know he is the real deal and we have a true blue chip back. Expect big things in the future the night is always darkest before the dawn
What's this taking Geno Smith garbage?
What's this taking Geno Smith garbage?
I think he continues to light it up this season and ends up vaulting to the first pick in the draft next season after winning the Heisman and putting up some serious numbers...Im personally not sold on Weeden not saying he cant become a great QB i just dont see him as the guy to take the Browns to the Super Bowl and Win and thats all im looking for...
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This is what pretty much the constant carping about the QBs on this team sounds like to me:
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Last year is last year, you got to move on! Sure it would be nice to have a win or two right now. I agree with zombo 1000% , i see what we've got with weeden and he's only gonna get better! T
Boy, Browns fans sure have changed. Most of us used to go into Sundays expecting a win. Now, many of us go into Sundays hoping to get "better." I miss the old days.
Boy, Browns fans sure have changed. Most of us used to go into Sundays expecting a win. Now, many of us go into Sundays hoping to get "better." I miss the old days.
There is nothing unreasonable about people managing their expectations about this team. It is the fans who cry about blowing the team up after a developmental year like this one that contribute to a culture of losing. We are playing playoff caliber teams every week with 3-4 rookies starting on offense and 5-6 rookies contributing heavily. Please keep things in perspective before damning the fans who actually pay enough attention to the game to see real improvement.
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Zombo said:
We can sorround a mediocre Qb with weapons and use words like "moxie" and "spunky" or we can get real like Pit, Balt, and Cincy did and get a guy who can throw the ball all over the field.
And win.
Z
LOL. Nobody has used words like moxie or spunky except you. What I know is that we were two errant Pontbriand snaps from 6 wins last year with a less powerful roster. I'm glad you are fulfilled.
LOL. Nobody has used words like moxie or spunky except you. What I know is that we were two errant Pontbriand snaps from 6 wins last year with a less powerful roster. I'm glad you are fulfilled.
Last year our defense ranked #10, this year we are #25 giving up over 400 yards per game.
If Weeden would get off the adderal, knock down some passes and make some tackles we might win more.
Colt's last two wins were 6-3 and 14-10.
I Guarantee the 2012 Weeden offense will win every game that we hold our opponents to 10 points or less.
Zombo
--Unless defense is not that important to you
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Geno Smith > Matt Barkley. The placement of Geno's passes on Saturday [and the rest of the season, really] was worthy of a top-10 pick. Geno hits his receivers in stride, putting the ball in the correct spot given both the receiver route and location of the defender. Barkley just isn't that good.
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Honestly with the way the season has looked I'm just hoping to go 4-12 and that's two wins against pittsburgh and 1 a piece between Cincy and B-More....that way when we switch over in ownership we hopefully end up with the #1 pick....Auction it off or take Geno Smith hope we really didn't screw ourselves missing out on RG3 and that he is the real deal......that's where my state of mind is don't put to much tread on T Rich but let the league know he is the real deal and we have a true blue chip back. Expect big things in the future the night is always darkest before the dawn
Honestly with the way the season has looked I'm just hoping to go 4-12 and that's two wins against pittsburgh and 1 a piece between Cincy and B-More....that way when we switch over in ownership we hopefully end up with the #1 pick....Auction it off or take Geno Smith hope we really didn't screw ourselves missing out on RG3 and that he is the real deal......that's where my state of mind is don't put to much tread on T Rich but let the league know he is the real deal and we have a true blue chip back. Expect big things in the future the night is always darkest before the dawn
Yeah- I'll give the Browns 4 wins too. If they can't beat Indy on the road, May not even be that good. Winnable games at Oakland and KC at home. If they can somehow beat the fading Steelers for a change, or upset the Bengals it's a big plus.
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Last year is last year, you got to move on! Sure it would be nice to have a win or two right now. I agree with zombo 1000% , i see what we've got with weeden and he's only gonna get better! T
Boy, Browns fans sure have changed. Most of us used to go into Sundays expecting a win. Now, many of us go into Sundays hoping to get "better." I miss the old days.
Boy, Browns fans sure have changed. Most of us used to go into Sundays expecting a win. Now, many of us go into Sundays hoping to get "better." I miss the old days.
"Get Better"? I was hoping we didn't get embarrassed on National TV when we played the Ravens. Ditto that Sunday when we play a very ornery Giants team in the media capital of America Sunday.
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Boy, Browns fans sure have changed. Most of us used to go into Sundays expecting a win. Now, many of us go into Sundays hoping to get "better." I miss the old days.
"Get Better"? I was hoping we didn't get embarrassed on National TV when we played the Ravens. Ditto that Sunday when we play a very ornery Giants team in the media capital of America Sunday.
"Get Better"? I was hoping we didn't get embarrassed on National TV when we played the Ravens. Ditto that Sunday when we play a very ornery Giants team in the media capital of America Sunday.
Exactly my point. I have an expectation to win, rather that a hope not to be embarrassed.
I expect us to beat the Giants, despite who the QB turns out to be.
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Expect to win.......my motto for decades.
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Boy, Browns fans sure have changed. Most of us used to go into Sundays expecting a win. Now, many of us go into Sundays hoping to get "better." I miss the old days.
There is nothing unreasonable about people managing their expectations about this team. It is the fans who cry about blowing the team up after a developmental year like this one that contribute to a culture of losing. We are playing playoff caliber teams every week with 3-4 rookies starting on offense and 5-6 rookies contributing heavily. Please keep things in perspective before damning the fans who actually pay enough attention to the game to see real improvement.
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Stats so far 1/4 of the way through the season
Weedy is:
29th in completions
29th in YDS per pass
Tied 1st Most INT
31st TD
31st QB Rating
32 in WINS
This game should be the turning point...he has to win this one or we are 0-5 it doesn't matter if he is the next staubach...he was benched too. He needs to realize that this isn't a game anymore.
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