95 Browns Season
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My last NFL game was in December '95, at Jack Murphy Stadium in San Diego. The Chargers thumped the Browns good that day, but it was far more than that. There was a very weird haze that floated over all of us SoCal Browns Backers, and was similar to a funeral, or maybe more like a wake. I haven't seen any of those people in the 17 years that have passed, although I am friends with a few of them on Facebook.
As the game neared its obvious outcome, Pio Sagapolutele came over to where we all were sitting, and started to shake hands with those of us that went down to the first row. He shook my hand, looked me in the eyes and said he was sorry. It really never hit me until that moment just how much the Browns and everything that encompasses them actually meant to me. The team, the friends every weekend at the sports bar, the games, the emotional rides.......Everything. After Pio turned around to walk back to the bench, I cried for what seemed like minutes. At the end of the game, all of my circle of friends said we would still get together and watch football next year, but it never happened.
My one and only daughter was born in June of '95, so it was likely that my obsession with the Browns would have calmed a bit even had they never moved, but I still think back on those days ('79-'95) and I always smile, and then almost cry......Almost.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
It was indeed against the Bengals. I have a bunch of photos I took from the stands and the looks on the faces of the folks in the stands is still heartbreaking. That was the Browns final home game on December 17th. I still have my ticket stubbs and two Browns seats I took from the Stadium.
The Browns final game was an away game the following week.
Earlier that year I attended the MNF game against Buffalo, I was in the upper deck and still remember at half time looking up and about at all the old construction, trying to listen for voices from days gone bye and wondering if the stadium would be there in another 20 years.
Boy, who knew.
I noticed that the Browns-Giants is going to be televised here in Memphis. Perhaps this is the week the NFL will validate the new owner? Hell, I haven't heard any news about this at all.
He'll be given the green light to take over on the 16th of October.
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Anyone watching this? It sounds painful, yet enthralling.
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The Browns didn't move.
Model announced he was moving the team to Baltimore.
Fans and media went nuts because the Browns were moving to Baltimore.
The owner and players went to Baltimore, and there was no team in Cleveland.
The Baltimore teams draft position and schedule was based on the Browns record.
I'm going to watch a documentary about the move.
But, you have to understand, The Browns didn't move.
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This makes me want to start crying. Saddest shit I have watched since the first time I watched Simon Burtch. The only thing that makes me feel good is the fact that I have been seeing a lot of current players tweeting about the show. Maybe now they will finally understand a little bit about what happened and play with some fucking passion.
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I have it on dvr, on the fence on watching it.
I was 15 when this happened. I remember my dad bought me a six pack, lowered his tailgait, and said "son, don't.worry about your mom."
Modell....................
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Well, let's say this. I do have much more respect for Belichick and what they were trying to do in Cleveland. I thought it was really well done and appreciate the inside footage of the staff as they were trying to work through the season.
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Well, let's say this. I do have much more respect for Belichick and what they were trying to do in Cleveland. I thought it was really well done and appreciate the inside footage of the staff as they were trying to work through the season.
Well, let's say this. I do have much more respect for Belichick and what they were trying to do in Cleveland. I thought it was really well done and appreciate the inside footage of the staff as they were trying to work through the season.
I didn't see it. Don't get NFL network....but...our next HC may come from that staff: Nick Saban.
I still say he is wasting his time in college at this point.
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Watched it last night on DVR after the debates(what a joke they were
)... Sigh... what could have been! 
So to those in Baltimore, New England, and any other football program such as the college programs in Alabama and Iowa that has reaped the benefits of success from these disciples of the Bellichick tree, at the expense of Cleveland and it's loyal fans, who now have had to put up with this pathetic shit of losing for 13 years....
YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!!
Signed Cleveland Browns fans!
BTW did anybody hear Bernie Kosar on 850 during drive time yesterday? If you did, then you know what I'm talking about, and it should infuriate you even more!
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Well, let's say this. I do have much more respect for Belichick and what they were trying to do in Cleveland. I thought it was really well done and appreciate the inside footage of the staff as they were trying to work through the season.
I didn't see it. Don't get NFL network....but...our next HC may come from that staff: Nick Saban.
I still say he is wasting his time in college at this point.
I didn't see it. Don't get NFL network....but...our next HC may come from that staff: Nick Saban.
I still say he is wasting his time in college at this point.
I don't know if he would trade his power & influence over college kids over getting an NFL team and dealing with the headaches, but who knows...
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Saban will go down as one of the greatest college coaches ever...it's easy for him now...kids just want to go to Alabama for the chance at the title... he has even said it has become much easier recruiting since he doesn't have to talk up the program like he used to... he is set his family is set...he could be there like joe pa was. He is not a risk taker, he would not trade in a sure thing, a great thing, a perfect thing for a chance to make a few thousand people smile in the bitter north...Now Kirk Ferentz may...but im guessing no.
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i watched and thought it was very well done. and to anyone that said belichik is an asshole....is an asshole. we had some great coaches and staff. the piece actually dealt with the team being built and the history of the coaches before and after. not so much on the move itself.
there were 2 people that stood out to me to be half insane and that was saban (looked like a nervous wreck bouncing up and down at the meetings...) and kokinos's kid. where they find this dude in line at the methadon clinic? geez. must be nice to have a powerful dad. just ask pat shurmur.
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i watched and thought it was very well done. and to anyone that said belichik is an asshole....is an asshole. we had some great coaches and staff. the piece actually dealt with the team being built and the history of the coaches before and after. not so much on the move itself.
there were 2 people that stood out to me to be half insane and that was saban (looked like a nervous wreck bouncing up and down at the meetings...) and kokinos's kid. where they find this dude in line at the methadon clinic? geez. must be nice to have a powerful dad. just ask pat shurmur.
i watched and thought it was very well done. and to anyone that said belichik is an asshole....is an asshole. we had some great coaches and staff. the piece actually dealt with the team being built and the history of the coaches before and after. not so much on the move itself.
there were 2 people that stood out to me to be half insane and that was saban (looked like a nervous wreck bouncing up and down at the meetings...) and kokinos's kid. where they find this dude in line at the methadon clinic? geez. must be nice to have a powerful dad. just ask pat shurmur.
I was probably one of the few Browns fans who liked Belichick back in the day. Even though I didn't like how he handled the Bernie situation. At any rate, I do think the piece was well done. It brought back a lot painful memories, as well as a lot of anger, and finally just sadness. It pisses me off to know what might have been! To top it when the Browns were returning, they dangled Bernie Kosar in front of us. Well, Bernie stated yesterday on 850 that the reason that there was a disconnect with Lerner, Policy, and Bernie was because Bernie recommended that Belichick be hired to coach the new Browns! So even with the move, there was a chance to make this shit right, right from the start! It was for that reason that they threw Kosar under the bus! Can you imagine how the course of history over the past 13 years could have changed had Lerner and Policy listened to Bernie?
Instead, we have been dealt a turd sandwich since 1999! Damn! I can't wait for Haslam to come in here and turn this shit around! -
Watched it last night on DVR after the debates(what a joke they were
)... Sigh... what could have been! So to those in Baltimore, New England, and any other football program such as the college programs in Alabama and Iowa that has reaped the benefits of success from these disciples of the Bellichick tree, at the expense of Cleveland and it's loyal fans, who now have had to put up with this pathetic shit of losing for 13 years....
YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!!
Signed Cleveland Browns fans!
BTW did anybody hear Bernie Kosar on 850 during drive time yesterday? If you did, then you know what I'm talking about, and it should infuriate you even more!
Watched it last night on DVR after the debates(what a joke they were
)... Sigh... what could have been! So to those in Baltimore, New England, and any other football program such as the college programs in Alabama and Iowa that has reaped the benefits of success from these disciples of the Bellichick tree, at the expense of Cleveland and it's loyal fans, who now have had to put up with this pathetic shit of losing for 13 years....
YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!!
Signed Cleveland Browns fans!
BTW did anybody hear Bernie Kosar on 850 during drive time yesterday? If you did, then you know what I'm talking about, and it should infuriate you even more!
Who has reaped the benefit of the Belichick tree, other than Belichick himself? Most of his "disciples" have been failures...at the NFL level. Weis, Josh McDaniels, even Saban in his Miami stint. And as far as I am concerned the Browns fans have SUFFERED under Belichick knockoffs Crennell and Mangini.
Sorry, but the Belichick tree has been the tree of the poisonous fruit.
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Watched it last night on DVR after the debates(what a joke they were
)... Sigh... what could have been! So to those in Baltimore, New England, and any other football program such as the college programs in Alabama and Iowa that has reaped the benefits of success from these disciples of the Bellichick tree, at the expense of Cleveland and it's loyal fans, who now have had to put up with this pathetic shit of losing for 13 years....
YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!!
Signed Cleveland Browns fans!
BTW did anybody hear Bernie Kosar on 850 during drive time yesterday? If you did, then you know what I'm talking about, and it should infuriate you even more!
Who has reaped the benefit of the Belichick tree, other than Belichick himself? Most of his "disciples" have been failures...at the NFL level. Weis, Josh McDaniels, even Saban in his Miami stint. And as far as I am concerned the Browns fans have SUFFERED under Belichick knockoffs Crennell and Mangini.
Sorry, but the Belichick tree has been the tree of the poisonous fruit.
Who has reaped the benefit of the Belichick tree, other than Belichick himself? Most of his "disciples" have been failures...at the NFL level. Weis, Josh McDaniels, even Saban in his Miami stint. And as far as I am concerned the Browns fans have SUFFERED under Belichick knockoffs Crennell and Mangini.
Sorry, but the Belichick tree has been the tree of the poisonous fruit.
Nevertheless, had the Browns not moved, and with that combination, the team would have been in the GOD DAMN Super Bowl! As for Saban, he's doing quite well at Alabama. I don't think he loses any sleep over his stint with the Dolphins.
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This is just a subset of the Paul Brown tree.
Other subsets include the Don Shula branch, the Chuck Noll Branch (Fox, Dungy, Lovie Smith, Tomlin), the Weeb Ewbank branch(Chuck Knox, Buddy Ryan, Jeff Fisher, Rex Ryan), the Bill Arsbarger branch (Schottenheimer, Cowher) The Ray Perkins branch (Parcells, Coughlin, Payton, Belichick, Sparano) and on and on.
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