Worst Team In Nfl, No Hope To Get Better....
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Weeden's 1,288 passing yards this season are the 2nd most ever by an NFL rookie through 5 games (Newton 1,610)
Weeden's 1,288 passing yards this season are the 2nd most ever by an NFL rookie through 5 games (Newton 1,610)
He's 0-5 with 9 INT's and 5 TD's.
I don't care about yards.
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The Browns at 0-5 this year are a better team than last years 2-3.
Partly because of Richardson but mostly because we now have a legitimate QB, of course he is going to throw INTs, newflash he's a rookie.
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Weeden's 1,288 passing yards this season are the 2nd most ever by an NFL rookie through 5 games (Newton 1,610)
He's 0-5 with 9 INT's and 5 TD's.
I don't care about yards.
He's 0-5 with 9 INT's and 5 TD's.
I don't care about yards.
Then you're stupid, because clearly he can improve on his mistakes, maintain the same yardage, and cut down on the INTs, which would make him a top QB. Colt passed for 300 yards almost never, maybe once or twice, all the great teams have high yardage passing QBs besides maybe the 49ers, but Alex Smith is still solid. Not only that but one of those INTs was a tipped ball from Greg Little.
Weeden isn't the problem, you're a damn fool if you think so. QBs dont grow on trees and Weeden is better than any QB out there in college right now, stick with him, and build the offense around Weeden and TR, we'll be fine.
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Come on you really can't compare the Browns to New England.
New England has a solid foundation in place, veterans and a winning tradition.
The Browns are a god damn mess, awful teams are given high picks for a reason. We have a huge lack of talent and the best talent is high in the draft.
Think before you speak.
Come on you really can't compare the Browns to New England.
New England has a solid foundation in place, veterans and a winning tradition.
The Browns are a god damn mess, awful teams are given high picks for a reason. We have a huge lack of talent and the best talent is high in the draft.
yeah and how do you get that foundation? the winning tradition? i lived in boston in the years of steve grogan and tony eason. they were a decent team that made it to a super bowl which they never showed up for. the afc east was nothing then. maybe miami was decent as well. but the jets were certainly no good and the bills had shot their load years before.
but tradition? that didn't start until kraft bought the team in '94. he brought in the right people and they have won afc titles and super bowls under his wing. BUT they are so smart in drafting they actually used their 1st 2 round picks on their defense which they needed help badly and got a DE and one of the best LBs in the draft (hightower) 3 picks after we picked weeden. they also traded down twice and up twice. we coulda traded down out of the 5 spot and garnished another 2nd rounder and something for next year and still grabbed one of the LBs or corners and picked a RB at 22. (btw in 2011 the pats drafted ryan mallet in the 3rd round and would say he's better than any qb on our roster).
Think before you speak.
touche'.
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Lot's of positions still needed to make us competitive IMO.
URGENT NEEDS
QB -Weeden was a mistake. He was too old and not worth a 1st round. McCoy won more games with less talent around him.
WR -The WR core needed a proven pro FA like Bouldan with Ravens. Maybe Gordon will pay off.
DE -Sheard is not the answer. Without a constant pass rush, everything else falls apart. A QB with his act together and 3 seconds will pick you apart. This is what's been happening since the Philly game. Hoping CBs can cover for 5 secs to allow pass rush to get there is a disaster.
FS -No team fears throwing deep on us. That says it all.
LESS URGENT
CB -Hayden's a lock. S Brown retires. Others are ok for 2nd string. Many teams have 2 star WRs. Need 2 prime CBs, but can live with one until we get a few other positions first.
RG, LG & FB -Maybe. Current starters unproven but looked good this week for the 1st time. Let's wait and see.
LB -Maybe. Gocong and Fujita gone. Rookies look good so far. Need at least one to blitz well. Must be able to cover TE and RB pass.
SS -Maybe. Ward's good at run stop and blitz but questionable at coverage. This is a passing league. He'll do for now.
Coaching - Offense and defense look predictable. Can't say who makes the lame calls. Might be HC, might be coordinators. Shurmur has to take at least some of the blame. Add up the points gained for KR & PR versus the turnovers and it's a lose. Run if it's open, cover the ball if not.
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Weeden's 1,288 passing yards this season are the 2nd most ever by an NFL rookie through 5 games (Newton 1,610)
Weeden's 1,288 passing yards this season are the 2nd most ever by an NFL rookie through 5 games (Newton 1,610)
That's only because Luck has played 4 games. Luck is only 80 yards behind Weeden with one less game played
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It's pathetic that within 5 games you guys are all ready to quit on Weeden. Lots of great QBs struggled for their first 2 seasons before becoming elite, and Weeden is throwing for huge yardage, all he has to do is cut on the mistakes and he'll be a great QB.
The coaching is the problem.
You also won't build a successful team if all you do is get rid of rookies who are making mistakes, you have to give them time to learn through experience.
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I have not quit on him. He is at an extreme disadvantage with Schurmer being his coach though. Once we get a "REAL" NFL headcoach, he will get better IMO
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Formerly Sane said:
That's like saying you tried to run a marathon but in reality you failed to get out of bed that day. Contrary to belief in Cleveland, it takes time to "build a team"
I agree.
Unfortunately, no one wants to give it time. It's "let's build a foundation" and then by week 8 it's "damn it all, let's fire them and start over".
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Formerly Sane said:
That's like saying you tried to run a marathon but in reality you failed to get out of bed that day. Contrary to belief in Cleveland, it takes time to "build a team"
I agree.
Unfortunately, no one wants to give it time. It's "let's build a foundation" and then by week 8 it's "damn it all, let's fire them and start over".
I agree.
Unfortunately, no one wants to give it time. It's "let's build a foundation" and then by week 8 it's "damn it all, let's fire them and start over".
I would say thank god Browns fans aren't the GM, but unfortunately they make decisions more often than not(through fire ___ bandwagons that is all over the media as a result). Fan pressure obviously makes a difference.
Now that we have Haslam as owner he should get someone reputable and stick by them, not just try to get temporary fast fixes.
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