Haslem Reiterates His Desire For New Stadium!
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This notion that we would lose our home field advantage because of a dome got me wondering. Are we a dominant team downtown in December (or January)?
Since 1999, we are 7-21 at the Stadium in December. Now that's one kick-ass cold weather team. Who has beat us? Probably a bunch of other cold weather teams. Right? Wrong. 4 of those losses were to Florida teams, 5 of those losses were to dome teams, and 2 were to the Chargers.
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another dumb response from a child. sure they could use the stadium for other events in the winter. but what events are that huge that come to cleveland as a venue?
put a roof on the stadium and you give up our home field advantage. packers have a dome? giants? patriots?
Who is being the child?
Home field advantage? I hope you are joking. I challenge you to name one team that we've had since 1999 that was dominant because we are an outdoor team? How about one player that was dominant because we are an outdoor team?
You are wondering about a huge event that would come to Cleveland? How about the Superbowl? They don't get much bigger than that.
Who is being the child?
Home field advantage? I hope you are joking. I challenge you to name one team that we've had since 1999 that was dominant because we are an outdoor team? How about one player that was dominant because we are an outdoor team?
You are wondering about a huge event that would come to Cleveland? How about the Superbowl? They don't get much bigger than that.
Roach, Don't put yourself in the ""we could host a Super Bowl if we had a Dome crowd", you're smarter than that. If you don't like freezing your ass off anymore in December, say so. Hosting a SB would be a one-in-a-lifetime event, and it sure as hell won't justify the cost of tossing a geodesic dome over the stadium. Let's get real for a second. How many MAJOR and I mean MAJOR conventions has Cleveland hosted lately? Like with 30,000 people involved. None? Hosting a SB will involve infrastructure for probably triple that. Cleveland doesn't have it. You'd be busing fans in from Akron, Columbus, Sandusky, or Youngstown.
I'm way closer to that Domed Nirvana Indianapolis than you are, and I can say with conviction- hosting the SB has changed Indy not one bit- and as I posted in this thread, outside of the Combine (which Cleveland would have zero chance of getting) most of the stuff Lucas Oil hosts is penny-ante. BTW, major cold weather concerts don't happen, as the BIG groups take the winter off so they can hit the MEGA-OUTDOOR venues in the summer.
Tell you what- my Bucket List involves seeing the Browns play in every stadium in the NFL. I'm about 1\3 of the way through. IMHO- what's the BIGGEST design flaw of CBS? Intentionally, when the New Stadium was built, it was supposed to have the "feel" of the old place. Compared to other NFL Stadiums I've been in, this created some incredibly narrow walkways behind the stands. Leaving a game, or going out to get a beer, you feel like a sardine in a can. It wouldn't cost Mega-millions to expand the lower and upper concourses 30'-50' (like the Club Level currently is) to give the peons some breathing room, and add on to the outside to move the bars and team shop there.
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Who is being the child?
Home field advantage? I hope you are joking. I challenge you to name one team that we've had since 1999 that was dominant because we are an outdoor team? How about one player that was dominant because we are an outdoor team?
You are wondering about a huge event that would come to Cleveland? How about the Superbowl? They don't get much bigger than that.
Roach, Don't put yourself in the ""we could host a Super Bowl if we had a Dome crowd", you're smarter than that. If you don't like freezing your ass off anymore in December, say so. Hosting a SB would be a one-in-a-lifetime event, and it sure as hell won't justify the cost of tossing a geodesic dome over the stadium. Let's get real for a second. How many MAJOR and I mean MAJOR conventions has Cleveland hosted lately? Like with 30,000 people involved. None? Hosting a SB will involve infrastructure for probably triple that. Cleveland doesn't have it. You'd be busing fans in from Akron, Columbus, Sandusky, or Youngstown.
I'm way closer to that Domed Nirvana Indianapolis than you are, and I can say with conviction- hosting the SB has changed Indy not one bit- and as I posted in this thread, outside of the Combine (which Cleveland would have zero chance of getting) most of the stuff Lucas Oil hosts is penny-ante. BTW, major cold weather concerts don't happen, as the BIG groups take the winter off so they can hit the MEGA-OUTDOOR venues in the summer.
Tell you what- my Bucket List involves seeing the Browns play in every stadium in the NFL. I'm about 1\3 of the way through. IMHO- what's the BIGGEST design flaw of CBS? Intentionally, when the New Stadium was built, it was supposed to have the "feel" of the old place. Compared to other NFL Stadiums I've been in, this created some incredibly narrow walkways behind the stands. Leaving a game, or going out to get a beer, you feel like a sardine in a can. It wouldn't cost Mega-millions to expand the lower and upper concourses 30'-50' (like the Club Level currently is) to give the peons some breathing room, and add on to the outside to move the bars and team shop there.
Roach, Don't put yourself in the ""we could host a Super Bowl if we had a Dome crowd", you're smarter than that. If you don't like freezing your ass off anymore in December, say so. Hosting a SB would be a one-in-a-lifetime event, and it sure as hell won't justify the cost of tossing a geodesic dome over the stadium. Let's get real for a second. How many MAJOR and I mean MAJOR conventions has Cleveland hosted lately? Like with 30,000 people involved. None? Hosting a SB will involve infrastructure for probably triple that. Cleveland doesn't have it. You'd be busing fans in from Akron, Columbus, Sandusky, or Youngstown.
Hoorta, where have you been? i've been saying that i don't like to freeze my ass off in December for years.
i've also said that they won't put a lid on the Stadium because it simply isn't practical.
The fact is, we would get a Superbowl if we had a dome. Period. However, that's water under the bridge. As for economic development, you must have never visited Indy before they had the dome. i can appreciate the economic benefits that have resulted during their dome era. If you think that, for example, hosting the NCAA Final Four several times has not been an economic boost (plus a positive for their image and self esteem), then God bless ya. As for infrastructure, if Indy or Detroit can pull it off, then certainly Northeast Ohio can.
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as ballpean stated attaching a dome to the existing structure is not an option.
the terminology would be a retractable canopy. a seperate structure with its own foundation would be neccesary to encapsulate the existing structure. imagine a gazebo with a retractable roof with CBS inside it!!
The taxpayers of Cle. get hosed again.
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Mine can get close to 90 when it's hot here because I'm cheap and I don't like to turn on the a/c.
In fact it's in the 80's in my house right now...
Fuck you. And I mean that in all jealousy. San Diego boy.
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Fuck you. And I mean that in all jealousy. San Diego boy.
Don't be jealous..it's much nicer seeing the leaves change and having 4 seasons, etc etc.....wait a minute... fuck that..no it's not. I much prefer a climate where a cold day is in the low 60's so I can laugh my ass off at these goofy people out here wearing gloves and shit when it's 62 degrees. -
Sorry, but I don't see anything in the article even close to wanting a "new" stadium... a "renewed", spruced up and/ or enhanced CBS, yes, but a new stadium, no...
Having just been to my first CBS game (vs Bills), it looked pretty good to me... not like a 13 yo stadium at all.
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Fuck you. And I mean that in all jealousy. San Diego boy.
Don't be jealous..it's much nicer seeing the leaves change and having 4 seasons, etc etc.....wait a minute... fuck that..no it's not. I much prefer a climate where a cold day is in the low 60's so I can laugh my ass off at these goofy people out here wearing gloves and shit when it's 62 degrees. Don't be jealous..it's much nicer seeing the leaves change and having 4 seasons, etc etc.....wait a minute... fuck that..no it's not. I much prefer a climate where a cold day is in the low 60's so I can laugh my ass off at these goofy people out here wearing gloves and shit when it's 62 degrees.The nice thing is having a cold day in the 60s, and a hot day in the low 80s.
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Mine can get close to 90 when it's hot here because I'm cheap and I don't like to turn on the a/c.
In fact it's in the 80's in my house right now...
Screw that. You are cheap.
I want 73-74, 24/7.
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Screw that. You are cheap.
I want 73-74, 24/7.
65-70 with a little chill in the air at night so i can break out my browns hoodie. but it has to be in the green with big trees and acres full of blue grass, corn fields and (cough, cough) anything else that might grow in that climate.
never been a beach person, although i love being ON the water. i know everyone says san d has the best climate but i loved the time i spent in colo. skiing or surfing. grizzly bear or sharks. personal choice i guess.
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Roach, Don't put yourself in the ""we could host a Super Bowl if we had a Dome crowd", you're smarter than that. If you don't like freezing your ass off anymore in December, say so. Hosting a SB would be a one-in-a-lifetime event, and it sure as hell won't justify the cost of tossing a geodesic dome over the stadium. Let's get real for a second. How many MAJOR and I mean MAJOR conventions has Cleveland hosted lately? Like with 30,000 people involved. None? Hosting a SB will involve infrastructure for probably triple that. Cleveland doesn't have it. You'd be busing fans in from Akron, Columbus, Sandusky, or Youngstown.
Hoorta, where have you been? i've been saying that i don't like to freeze my ass off in December for years.
i've also said that they won't put a lid on the Stadium because it simply isn't practical.
The fact is, we would get a Superbowl if we had a dome. Period. However, that's water under the bridge. As for economic development, you must have never visited Indy before they had the dome. i can appreciate the economic benefits that have resulted during their dome era. If you think that, for example, hosting the NCAA Final Four several times has not been an economic boost (plus a positive for their image and self esteem), then God bless ya. As for infrastructure, if Indy or Detroit can pull it off, then certainly Northeast Ohio can.
Hoorta, where have you been? i've been saying that i don't like to freeze my ass off in December for years.
i've also said that they won't put a lid on the Stadium because it simply isn't practical.
The fact is, we would get a Superbowl if we had a dome. Period. However, that's water under the bridge. As for economic development, you must have never visited Indy before they had the dome. i can appreciate the economic benefits that have resulted during their dome era. If you think that, for example, hosting the NCAA Final Four several times has not been an economic boost (plus a positive for their image and self esteem), then God bless ya. As for infrastructure, if Indy or Detroit can pull it off, then certainly Northeast Ohio can.
Yeah Roach, I have visited Indy from way back when. Having the Colts is a major thing, the Dome, not so much.
And we come from a different perspective of what "cold weather " is. I'm not quite as hardy as i used to be, so I know where you're coming from. But there's "cold" and then there's "cold". Don't want to make you feel bad, but once upon a time, I felt the need to check out my -20 sleeping bag at the local state park when it was -5. Remember the Bengals Chargers froze bowl? I was out skiing at Snowshoe in West Virginia. With a pre-paid pass, the actual air temperature was 29 below, and with the hurricane wind chill, that dipped it to -78. Now THAT is what I consider COLD.
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Screw that. You are cheap.
I want 73-74, 24/7.
65-70 with a little chill in the air at night so i can break out my browns hoodie. but it has to be in the green with big trees and acres full of blue grass, corn fields and (cough, cough) anything else that might grow in that climate.
never been a beach person, although i love being ON the water. i know everyone says san d has the best climate but i loved the time i spent in colo. skiing or surfing. grizzly bear or sharks. personal choice i guess.
65-70 with a little chill in the air at night so I can break out my browns hoodie.
Actually that 65-70 sounds better, but I don't care how long I run the AC, I can't get it that low. I might if I zoned off the house and added a second, smaller unit but we really don't plan on living in this house all that much longer. About time to downsize and move in to a lakeside or downtown condo.
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Haslem has said nothing about a new stadium, only improving CBS by adding a roof.
Which isn't possible.
And I'm almost positive a geodesic dome will not be place over CBS anytime in the near future.
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