Just Give Cowher What He Wants And Move On!
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I agree on Saban. I think he's too old to make a move like that and him quitting on the Dolphins is inexcusable to me.
Of the candidates of guys who have NFL experience but without winning at title, McDaniels is the best name out there. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Mangini back either. I think the team was on the right track and Holmgren wanted his own guy but I don't think there's any chance he comes back here. It wouldn't shock me to hear him getting a job somewhere though and being successful.
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Formerly Sane said:
The subject of the top names for coaching positions was the topic of discussion Tuesday on Sirius NFL and they summarized it well.
Today's NFL organizations, with the exception of a handful, are dysfunctional to a large degree.....they simply don't have a plan in place which will result in a solid organization. There are a handful at the top which get it, there is a handful at the bottom which will never get it, and there is a bunch in the middle who seem to be stagnant. This was sighted as the reason the Grudens and Cowhers haven't jumped back in to the fray. They know what it takes and nobody is offering a solid solution.
Take a wild ass guess at where the Browns fall? It ain't happnin!
As a Browns fan, I hope Haslam can reintroduce some "functionality" into the Browns Front Office.
Everyone with two communicating neurons know Shur-loss' days are numbered with the Browns. He'd have to go 4-3 minimum the remaining 7 games, and I don't see that happening.
Yup, no big name coach is going to want to touch the Browns. Sean Payton, should he decide to leave the Saints, isn't even in the discussion. McDaniels is probably the best we could get. I'm not that much of an expert on style, but one would hope the next coach(es) will run a modified WCO, a 4-3 defense, or else it's back to the drawing board for another couple of years.
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Gruden is going to Philly. Bank it.
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Why would anyone want Nick Saban? Sure he has a lot of experience but HE QUIT ON MIAMI TO COACH ALABAMA - HE QUIT.
It wasn't that he was unsuccessful and not wanted there, he bolted out of the back door in the middle of the night and they were sitting in the coaches meeting wondering where's Nick? Oh he quit.
On top of that he'd be 64 by the beginning of the 2013 season anyways.
Why would anyone want Nick Saban? Sure he has a lot of experience but HE QUIT ON MIAMI TO COACH ALABAMA - HE QUIT.
It wasn't that he was unsuccessful and not wanted there, he bolted out of the back door in the middle of the night and they were sitting in the coaches meeting wondering where's Nick? Oh he quit.
On top of that he'd be 64 by the beginning of the 2013 season anyways.
What? I didn't think he was anywhere near that old. I thought he was in his early 50s.
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Formerly Sane said:
The subject of the top names for coaching positions was the topic of discussion Tuesday on Sirius NFL and they summarized it well.
Today's NFL organizations, with the exception of a handful, are dysfunctional to a large degree.....they simply don't have a plan in place which will result in a solid organization. There are a handful at the top which get it, there is a handful at the bottom which will never get it, and there is a bunch in the middle who seem to be stagnant. This was sighted as the reason the Grudens and Cowhers haven't jumped back in to the fray. They know what it takes and nobody is offering a solid solution.
Take a wild ass guess at where the Browns fall? It ain't happnin!
Hello! McFly? Is anybody home? Yes, the Browns under Rander Lerner were the epitome of dysfunctional.
But didn't you hear? The Browns got a new owner. Have you been to Mars to see if there is any life there because it sure seems that you left this planet.
As to where the Haslam organization will fall along in that hierarchy, don't you think 3 weeks is a little soon to judge?
You must be a big Dragnet fan: Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
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gmp you need to read my posts about coaching..........
The Browns need a guy who is UNPROVEN, a GUY WHO IS HUNGRY, A guy not even on YOUR radar or ANY of ours radar.
The BRowns need to hire a guy who has his own set of values, his own way of doing things AND...... a fire in his belly to show the world he is somebody.
Whe Cowehr was hired, he was a nothing, when Bill b was hired, he was a nothing, an assistant. What is it about hiring guys who are retired that doesn't sink through your thick head?
The things tha made Cowher great, the things that put a fire in his belly, all that crazy over the top emotion that was his trademark? That is never going to happen again in his lifetime.
Don't you see that this is why Holmgren failed? Dude, it s like the excitement of screwing a woman for the first time. five year later? YOU aren't going to have the same bone for the chick.
Cowher is DONE, GRUDEN is DONE and he sucks the penis of other coaches.
We need our OWN Cowher............. someone NOT ON OUR RADAR.
and you have tried to find them coach after coach after coach after coach after coach!..get the point?..
Hiring a guy like Cower and and the high profile expectations a guy like that would immediately put on the face of the Browns franchise, is priceless..they keep bringin in these busllsh*t coaching whiff's and strike out all the time..hiring Cowher, yes, would feel like, as a Browns fan taking the Steelers Sloppy seconds....but it may bring in some name players to follow, with T Rich, and Cowher and Weeden, hopefully bright future...it's not a bad shot to take..
who else would you put on the sidelines?...really sombody from the organization?...there in lies the problem.
Just think of the renewed rivalry with Pittsburgh..would be fantastic thing to do..and please don't give me, they already have a rivalry...dude..that's been dead for a long time.
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Formerly Sane said:
As a Steeler fan, that would make me smile for a long, long time
Look what he is doing as interim HC of the Colts. Is this a guy that perhaps makes a better HC than OC?
He didn't do that well as OC here...or in Pisstown. Yet he is winning in Indy.
So, What's up with that? Is it just Andrew Luck, or what?
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Formerly Sane said:
As a Steeler fan, that would make me smile for a long, long time
Look what he is doing as interim HC of the Colts. Is this a guy that perhaps makes a better HC than OC?
He didn't do that well as OC here...or in Pisstown. Yet he is winning in Indy.
So, What's up with that? Is it just Andrew Luck, or what?
So, What's up with that? Is it just Andrew Luck, or what?
yep.
w/o luck it would be the ole run run pass punt once again.
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Formerly Sane said:
As a Steeler fan, that would make me smile for a long, long time
Look what he is doing as interim HC of the Colts. Is this a guy that perhaps makes a better HC than OC?
He didn't do that well as OC here...or in Pisstown. Yet he is winning in Indy.
So, What's up with that? Is it just Andrew Luck, or what?
Look what he is doing as interim HC of the Colts. Is this a guy that perhaps makes a better HC than OC?
He didn't do that well as OC here...or in Pisstown. Yet he is winning in Indy.
So, What's up with that? Is it just Andrew Luck, or what?
It's obviously the talent he has.
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If Shurmer still has the locker room at the end of the season, I think it is 50/50 that he is back next year.
We'll know the Monday following week 17.
BTW, if Shurmer had already lost the locker room, he would have been fired during this bye week period.
BTW, if Shurmer had already lost the locker room, he would have been fired during this bye week period.
Don't necessarily agree with that. Haslam said he would not fire Shurmur during the season and I'd hate to see him contradict himself, plus do we really want him to come in and his first move being that sort of knee jerk reaction?
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