I Like Weiner
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you wanna blame skrine? then blame haden. the dude fucked us for 4 games this year. mike ditka woulda went in with half a stroke and played that game today.
how can you blame ANYTHING on the defense today? we lead 13-0 at the half against supposedly one of the more explosive offensive teams in the league. thank god watson can jump. and when did 20-35 comp and fumbling the football become good?
yeah CB next year right after QB. how many throws (even the commentators were saying it all day) behind and high that weeden threw today that everybody here was bitching about mccoy last year?
look in the mirrors. everybody's about 'my guy'.
fuck that. how about wins?
you wanna blame skrine? then blame haden. the dude fucked us for 4 games this year. mike ditka woulda went in with half a stroke and played that game today.
how can you blame ANYTHING on the defense today?
One word. Penalties.
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Orange85 said:
This amazes me. Weeden throws for over 200 yds and 2 TDs and you guys blame him. What about the fact that any average fan can predict every play that we call on offense because we are so predictable? What about the fact that our defense let freaking Romo drive the length of the field in a minute and a half after Weeden threw a beautiful TDS pass to go ahead? What about the fact that we have the worst DBs in the league? What about our special teams letting Dallas return the kickoff to mid field? Is Weeden perfect? No. But blaming him for the loss is nuts!
weeden is not even ranked in the top 25. nick foles was ranked higher than him before today's start.
how about we can't score again since the first half until what, 3 mins left? how about weeden's TERRIBLE fucking corner overthrow to win the game, but choked? how about having all day to throw and short changing or misplacing the accuracy of his throws?
all you little fuckers that said the same thing last year about mccoy that i'm saying about weeden this year are now defending weeden are full of shit.
blowhard bullshit.
and i'd love to see what your W-L predictions were for the season. i said no better than 5 wins.
good luck with that.
how about weeden's TERRIBLE fucking corner overthrow to win the game, but choked?
how about weeden taking the team 90 yards down the field at the end of the game to set up a 3rd and goal from the 1 that we couldnt punch in on the ground with our 3rd overall RB? how about rebounding on the next drive to throw a td with less than a minute left that should have won the game?
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One word. Penalties.
watching the Db's grab and hold every wr. it almosted looked like the coaches said............. "you suck, don't ever let them go by you".
No technique, just grab and hold..............and hope the ref doesn't call it
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I didnt know that Weeden had all the illegal contacts, and pass interferences?
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I didnt know that Weeden had all the illegal contacts, and pass interferences?
I didnt know that Weeden had all the illegal contacts, and pass interferences?
no he didn't.
but if you're the second coming of christ like most of you want to make him out to be then his play should overcome any mistakes either from his hands or any others.
yeah he drove us down the field. matt cassell ryan fitzpatrick and kevin kolb could have done the same with the play of our WRs today. do you want to build your franchise around any of those guys?
hell mccoy was serviceable. why waste a first round pick on 'serviceable'?
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I didnt know that Weeden had all the illegal contacts, and pass interferences?
no he didn't.
but if you're the second coming of christ like most of you want to make him out to be then his play should overcome any mistakes either from his hands or any others.
yeah he drove us down the field. matt cassell ryan fitzpatrick and kevin kolb could have done the same with the play of our WRs today. do you want to build your franchise around any of those guys?
hell mccoy was serviceable. why waste a first round pick on 'serviceable'?
why waste a first round pick on 'serviceable'?
but to be clear your advocating replacing weeden with another servicable 1st round qb next year?
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but to be clear your advocating replacing weeden with another servicable 1st round qb next year?
i don't know if i'd replace him at all because we NEED so much on the other side of the ball.
my whole point is this: it's all nice and pretty for everyone that wanted a new QB because they thought mccoy sucked so bad. now that we have one how have we improved? our WRs have made the difference this year along with TR, not weeden and we still only have 2 wins? GTFO! yet no one will admit to the fact that we probably did waste that pick while we should have just played mccoy out to see how he shook out in his make or break year. if he would have led us to a winning season this year this discussion would be over. if not we'd be lookin at collin klein next year. for anyone to say he's not better than weeden is fucking HIGH (dick).
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was against weeden pick. hes at least a small upgrade over mccoy but yeah probably not worth it. drafting any of this years qbs would be making the same mistake tho. admittedly havent watched much KSU but most "draft experts" dont even consider clein to be in the top 5 qbs in this draft. his stats are inflated by playing in a conference full of pussy defenses. (yes i realize weeden also played in the big12, not the point). all that said, blaming the QB for a loss with the defense giving up 20 2nd half points, over 300 yds passing to an incompetent romo, and over 100 yards in penalties is rediculous. weeden gave his team the lead with less than a minute to go-they couldnt step up
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Anyone thinking that a college QB of ANY skill at all could have come in here and been successful at all with the horse and pony show coaching in cleveland IS high...Starting to think that the coaches are trying to sabotage the players to take the fall rather than accept the responsibility that they themselves blow chunks. This team needs real coaching. The players in place are good enough to have several more wins than they currently have, but the coaching has undermined them at every turn. Its absolutely ridiculous how unimaginative and weak the playcalling has been on both sides of the ball all year this year.
CLEAN HOUSE JIMMY H III!!!!!!
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was against weeden pick. hes at least a small upgrade over mccoy but yeah probably not worth it. drafting any of this years qbs would be making the same mistake tho. admittedly havent watched much KSU but most "draft experts" dont even consider clein to be in the top 5 qbs in this draft. his stats are inflated by playing in a conference full of pussy defenses. (yes i realize weeden also played in the big12, not the point). all that said, blaming the QB for a loss with the defense giving up 20 2nd half points, over 300 yds passing to an incompetent romo, and over 100 yards in penalties is rediculous. weeden gave his team the lead with less than a minute to go-they couldnt step up
was against weeden pick. hes at least a small upgrade over mccoy but yeah probably not worth it. drafting any of this years qbs would be making the same mistake tho. admittedly havent watched much KSU but most "draft experts" dont even consider clein to be in the top 5 qbs in this draft. his stats are inflated by playing in a conference full of pussy defenses. (yes i realize weeden also played in the big12, not the point). all that said, blaming the QB for a loss with the defense giving up 20 2nd half points, over 300 yds passing to an incompetent romo, and over 100 yards in penalties is rediculous. weeden gave his team the lead with less than a minute to go-they couldnt step up
i had said before that i didn't see every snap of the game. what i did see though is what i'm commenting on. i had half a bar rooting for the browns cuz they're gints fans wanting dallas to lose and the rest were actually ny cowboy fans....which make me sick (sorta like people from ohio rooting for the steelers). i was in and out (smoking laws) so i didn't see any of the second half before the jets game went final. so it was like 3 mins left. i watched the first 1/2 on internet feed which was terrible.
i was impressed with greg little, josh gordon and benjamin watson. TR did a solid job and don't know if the play calling kinda held him back with not enough play action passes and some motion plays. the catches these guys made were impressive because nothing was laid into their hands or thrown were the receiver would like it.
hey weeden might be here and be the man but he's got to improve. is that a fault from the coaching staff? maybe. but when is it talent vs. choke vs. talentless.
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was against weeden pick. hes at least a small upgrade over mccoy but yeah probably not worth it. drafting any of this years qbs would be making the same mistake tho. admittedly havent watched much KSU but most "draft experts" dont even consider clein to be in the top 5 qbs in this draft. his stats are inflated by playing in a conference full of pussy defenses. (yes i realize weeden also played in the big12, not the point). all that said, blaming the QB for a loss with the defense giving up 20 2nd half points, over 300 yds passing to an incompetent romo, and over 100 yards in penalties is rediculous. weeden gave his team the lead with less than a minute to go-they couldnt step up
i had said before that i didn't see every snap of the game. what i did see though is what i'm commenting on. i had half a bar rooting for the browns cuz they're gints fans wanting dallas to lose and the rest were actually ny cowboy fans....which make me sick (sorta like people from ohio rooting for the steelers). i was in and out (smoking laws) so i didn't see any of the second half before the jets game went final. so it was like 3 mins left. i watched the first 1/2 on internet feed which was terrible.
i was impressed with greg little, josh gordon and benjamin watson. TR did a solid job and don't know if the play calling kinda held him back with not enough play action passes and some motion plays. the catches these guys made were impressive because nothing was laid into their hands or thrown were the receiver would like it.
hey weeden might be here and be the man but he's got to improve. is that a fault from the coaching staff? maybe. but when is it talent vs. choke vs. talentless.
TR did a solid job and don't know if the play calling kinda held him back
TR failed to run the ball in 3 times from inside the 5 the same way weeden failed to throw it in on 4th down. why the free pass for TR but not weeden? i love TR but just saying. hard to say weeden choked tho when he gave his team a lead with less than a minute to play
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Movement to delete this ridiculous thread?
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The amount of idiocy in this thread is actually kinda hilarious. You expect a rookie QB to simply just get thrown into the starting job and start pulling Aaron Rodger numbers? Hell, look at Tannehill or Luck this week. It's a proven fact that starting rookie QBs have a pretty damn hard time in their first year in the league. Why? Because the team they are on is usually shitty enough where they actually need a rookie QB to start. Our team is shit right now, but the promising part is that this is mainly because our team is unbelievably young. We need an off season with a developing team and a proven coach. Once we clean house coach wise, this can begin to happen.
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i don't know if i'd take another qb next year. it's just funny to see a lot of fans here say "what do you expect from a rookie QB" when that's what they expected from mccoy. and when he didn't perform they blasted him. not the same with weeden. yet who had a better rookie record with the same number of games under his belt at this point of the season and had little to no weapons compared to weeden.
just sayin.
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The amount of idiocy in this thread is actually kinda hilarious. You expect a rookie QB to simply just get thrown into the starting job and start pulling Aaron Rodger numbers? Hell, look at Tannehill or Luck this week. It's a proven fact that starting rookie QBs have a pretty damn hard time in their first year in the league. Why? Because the team they are on is usually shitty enough where they actually need a rookie QB to start. Our team is shit right now, but the promising part is that this is mainly because our team is unbelievably young. We need an off season with a developing team and a proven coach. Once we clean house coach wise, this can begin to happen.
The amount of idiocy in this thread is actually kinda hilarious. You expect a rookie QB to simply just get thrown into the starting job and start pulling Aaron Rodger numbers? Hell, look at Tannehill or Luck this week. It's a proven fact that starting rookie QBs have a pretty damn hard time in their first year in the league. Why? Because the team they are on is usually shitty enough where they actually need a rookie QB to start. Our team is shit right now, but the promising part is that this is mainly because our team is unbelievably young. We need an off season with a developing team and a proven coach. Once we clean house coach wise, this can begin to happen.
I expect any pro qb rookie or not- to deliver an accurate 15 yard out when he has zero pressure on him. The o-line did an OUTSTANDING job of giving Weeden all day to throw. Made some, Little and Gordon bailed him out on some outstanding catches. Go watch the tape- Weedster bailed out on check downs- when he had guys wide open down the field he didn't see. I can't bitch abut not throwing deep- there were plenty of streak patterns that got bailed on.
Oh well, another nail in Shur-loss's coffin.
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i don't know if i'd take another qb next year. it's just funny to see a lot of fans here say "what do you expect from a rookie QB" when that's what they expected from mccoy. and when he didn't perform they blasted him. not the same with weeden. yet who had a better rookie record with the same number of games under his belt at this point of the season and had little to no weapons compared to weeden.
just sayin.
i don't know if i'd take another qb next year. it's just funny to see a lot of fans here say "what do you expect from a rookie QB" when that's what they expected from mccoy. and when he didn't perform they blasted him. not the same with weeden. yet who had a better rookie record with the same number of games under his belt at this point of the season and had little to no weapons compared to weeden.
just sayin.
YOU ARE SO AGRAVATING WITH YOU BLIND ASS LOVE FOR McCOY!
The kid sucked..... Just stop bringing McCoy up everytime you post...please!
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Joe Haden lost us the game, and he knew it.
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Weeden once again looked good when the offense was sped up for him.... They need to mix in the hurry up with him, he's comfortable and effective in it. The long drives that Weeden has put together have been pretty good. Lets blame kick returns that got called back for holding and the ridiculous 10 penalties that resulted in Dallas first downs. The penalties easily allowed the Cowboys to score at least a touchdown in yardage and cost the Browns at least one more field goal. That's a swing of 10 points because of penalties, something that Weeden had nothing to do with.
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Has it been 2-3 games since a legitimate shot downfield? Can't recall a play over 35-40 yards downfield. Benjamin and Gordon can stretch the field. Think I saw one sweep with TR yesterday, when they get him out on the edge things happen. The play calling is so questionalbe and ass nine at times makes you just grind your teeth. With that thought the D line was lights out, and the Lb's were pretty decent today, as for my draft looking at CB,LB,DE now. Skrine, only thing he is good for is Tackles in a IDP fantasy football league.
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