Israel Offed A Military Chief Of Hamas

[Alo]

By that theory, President Clinton was the only recent non-corrupt commander-in-chief, at least if you count the Lebanon conflicts in '82 and '06.

Also, to clear something up from my posts above -- just because I believe we're pretty much locked into our current aid policy re: Egypt & Israel doesn't mean it's a good one. In fact, I think we've been bad friends to Israel by insulating them from the costs of the occupation -- it's helped entrench a policy that's fundamentally at odds with Israel's identity as a Jewish & democratic state.

[Westside Steve]

Hear hear.

Perhaps we should be even better friends and, since suffering is good for the soul, just arm the rest of the Middle East so they can be crushed.

WSS

[Alo]

It's odd that someone who rages against the welfare machine fails to see how foreign aid could breed complacency.

[Westside Steve]

Not nearly as odd as someone getting a boner over

The destruction of the only civalized spot in the region.

WSS

[VaporTrail]

@westside-steve said:

Not nearly as odd as someone getting a boner over

The destruction of the only civalized spot in the region.

WSS

lol^

[Alo]

@westside-steve said:

Not nearly as odd as someone getting a boner over

The destruction of the only civalized spot in the region.

WSS

Edit: Removed the image and replaced it with something more appropriate.

[Westside Steve]

At least you guys are in good company.

WSS

[Kosar_For_President]

@alo said:

Edit: Removed the image and replaced it with something more appropriate.

WTF?

[VaporTrail]

Steve, do you really consider Israel the only civilized nation in the area?

[Westside Steve]

@vaportrail said:

Steve, do you really consider Israel the only civilized nation in the area?

By and large, yes.

Oh I understand that Qatar the United Arab Emirate Jordan and at 1 time Lebanon arent exactly hell holes.

But Syria Saudi Arabia Iraq Iran Egypt Libya on and on.....

WSS

[VaporTrail]

@westside-steve said:

By and large, yes.

Oh I understand that Qatar the United Arab Emirate Jordan and at 1 time Lebanon arent exactly hell holes.

But Syria Saudi Arabia Iraq Iran Egypt Libya on and on.....

WSS

Bunching all of those countries together really shows that you don't have the slightest clue what's going on over there.

[Alo]

Calling whole groups of people uncivilized is a very 19th century thing to do, but it's the older cousin of a sentiment shared by many Israelis who oppose the continued occupation of the West Bank: why should the kid of a tech executive in Tel Aviv be forced to raid homes in the middle of the night in Tulkarem or the keep the whole city of Hebron under lockdown because the Israeli settlers there are batshit insane? Those actions make young Israelis do things a "civilized" person wouldn't normally engage in.

Unfortunately, that's a problem unlikely to be resolved anytime soon because of the mess in Gaza.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@vaportrail said:

Bunching all of those countries together really shows that you don't have the slightest clue what's going on over there.

Please advise me oh wise one, what is going on there? I've been asking myself that for the past 40 years.

[Westside Steve]

No doubt you'll feel the same if Cherokee and Latinos start shelling Cleveland.

I think it's foolish to believe that turning over Gaza and the West Bank will bring peace and happiness.

WSS

[VaporTrail]

Iran showing fastest scientific growth of any country

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18546-iran-showing-fastest-scientific-growth-of-any-country.html

Iran is teaching evolution in its schools

http://www.fasebj.org/content/20/13/2183.full

Iran's fertility rate is only slightly above ours!

http://www.mnforsustain.org/iran_model_of_reducing_fertility.htm

Over half of Iran's college students are female

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5359672.stm

Let's not forget how Iran invaded our sovereign neighbor, creating unrest in the area.

Let's not forget how Iran flies drones over our beaches.

Let's not forget how Iran set up military bases all over the western hemisphere.

Let's not forget that Iran's military budget is bigger than the next 12 countries combined.

One of these is Salt Lake City, the other one is Tehran. Just look at all those dirty heathens!

And it doesn't even matter that I've posted any of this, because it won't change your mind. You think they're an uncivilized third world country because you apparently believe the bullshit spin that mainstream media puts on the entire Middle East. It's really a shame that you guys are beyond accepting evidence because of the strained relationship we've had with this country in the past.

[Westside Steve]

So why does Obama want to keep them from having a nuclear weapon?

WSS

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Why would any of that change my mind? They still stone people to death for adultery. They hang people for crimes we would get 30 days in jail for. So what is your point?

[VaporTrail]

@westside-steve said:

So why does Obama want to keep them from having a nuclear weapon?

WSS

To maintain the status quo in the region. Iran's gain of influence is at ours and Israel's expense. Like I said before, I think that us losing influence in that region is inevitable. It's a fight we can't win, and if they get nukes, Israel is forced to back off and act like everyone else.

[Westside Steve]

So, to be clear you are fine with Iran having nuclear weapons? Is that correct?

WSS

[VaporTrail]

Yes, because they're ultimately going to get them regardless of US intervention. The less pissed they are at us when they get them, the better. Everyone in the military knows that Iran is going to be keeping a closer eye on their nukes than everyone else because they have the most to lose if a rogue nuke goes off somewhere in the world.