Nra Calls For Armed Police Officer In Every School
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I agree it's a sad state of affairs. It's a reflection of the culture we live in today.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Charter schools are still schools and they are completely un defended. Mag locks are all well and good but they won't stop the glass doors being shot out.
Shaker heights schools don't have security. I've walked onto the grounds of their middle and high schools myself without anyone so much as asking me what I'm doing there.
I'm doing work, of course, but they don't know that.
Charter schools are still schools and they are completely un defended. Mag locks are all well and good but they won't stop the glass doors being shot out.
Shaker heights schools don't have security. I've walked onto the grounds of their middle and high schools myself without anyone so much as asking me what I'm doing there.
I'm doing work, of course, but they don't know that.
Unfortunately, without making the school a prison with bullet proof doors and glass, and armed towers surrounding it, there is only so much protection you can provide.
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Either way it's a sad state of affairs. Do you think people who grew up in the 50's could even fatham shit like this happening.
Either way it's a sad state of affairs. Do you think people who grew up in the 50's could even fatham shit like this happening.
I grew up in the 50's and I can.
We went from prayer in schools and watching Howdy Duty and Roy Rogers to no prayer and playing violent video games
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I agree it's a sad state of affairs. It's a reflection of the culture we live in today.
I agree it's a sad state of affairs. It's a reflection of the culture we live in today.
I agree it's a sad state of affairs. But should we just bury our heads and hope bad things won't happen? Or should we try to stop the inevitable from happening?
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
This is one of the problems with America today. Government is making laws on what they WISH would be and for the sake of "civility" refusing to face reality. Forget about what kind of America you want to live in. The monkey is out of the box, there is no going backwads to more civil times. We have to live in the here-and-now, and in the here-and-now we the people face dangers every day.
Think about this, cops do not stop crimes. When is the last time you read about a cop stopping a rape? It just doesn't happen, cops gather evidence and tryt o recreat crimes, but they aren't there to prevent them.
WHen a woman is raped, there are only two people involved and the woman is the ONLY human being on earth who has any ability to prevent a rape, is the woman herself, by having a gun.
If GOd forbid I ever encounter one of these fucktards, I want to at least have a chance of saving people and myself.
Holy shit, I agree with Ghoolie. Police are a reactionary force, not a preventative one. Ghoolie, unfortunately it's not as simple as everyone having a gun. It's great for the rape example you listed, but let's take the Aurora shooting. You're in a dark theater, and all of a sudden you see smoke bombs go off and you hear gunfire. Luckily for you, you are carrying your .40, and are going to put this asshole down. Unfortunately, 9 other people in the theater have the same idea, and they all pull out their guns. I don't think anyone is going to like the outcome there.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
This is one of the problems with America today. Government is making laws on what they WISH would be and for the sake of "civility" refusing to face reality. Forget about what kind of America you want to live in. The monkey is out of the box, there is no going backwads to more civil times. We have to live in the here-and-now, and in the here-and-now we the people face dangers every day.
Think about this, cops do not stop crimes. When is the last time you read about a cop stopping a rape? It just doesn't happen, cops gather evidence and tryt o recreat crimes, but they aren't there to prevent them.
WHen a woman is raped, there are only two people involved and the woman is the ONLY human being on earth who has any ability to prevent a rape, is the woman herself, by having a gun.
If GOd forbid I ever encounter one of these fucktards, I want to at least have a chance of saving people and myself.
Holy shit, I agree with Ghoolie. Police are a reactionary force, not a preventative one. Ghoolie, unfortunately it's not as simple as everyone having a gun. It's great for the rape example you listed, but let's take the Aurora shooting. You're in a dark theater, and all of a sudden you see smoke bombs go off and you hear gunfire. Luckily for you, you are carrying your .40, and are going to put this asshole down. Unfortunately, 9 other people in the theater have the same idea, and they all pull out their guns. I don't think anyone is going to like the outcome there.
Holy shit, I agree with Ghoolie. Police are a reactionary force, not a preventative one. Ghoolie, unfortunately it's not as simple as everyone having a gun. It's great for the rape example you listed, but let's take the Aurora shooting. You're in a dark theater, and all of a sudden you see smoke bombs go off and you hear gunfire. Luckily for you, you are carrying your .40, and are going to put this asshole down. Unfortunately, 9 other people in the theater have the same idea, and they all pull out their guns. I don't think anyone is going to like the outcome there.
A suicide type killer, who has no regard for his life is the most dangerous. They won't be deterred by armed police/security. They won't care if people could be armed or not, they just want to kill as many as possible before getting killed or killing themselves.
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Anyone who believes that armed guards in the schools wouldn't make things a little safer let me ask you this:
Why not save money by removing all the armed guards from shopping centers banks airports at cetera?
WSS
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My guess would be cost benefit analysis.
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Holy shit, I agree with Ghoolie. Police are a reactionary force, not a preventative one. Ghoolie, unfortunately it's not as simple as everyone having a gun. It's great for the rape example you listed, but let's take the Aurora shooting. You're in a dark theater, and all of a sudden you see smoke bombs go off and you hear gunfire. Luckily for you, you are carrying your .40, and are going to put this asshole down. Unfortunately, 9 other people in the theater have the same idea, and they all pull out their guns. I don't think anyone is going to like the outcome there.
A suicide type killer, who has no regard for his life is the most dangerous. They won't be deterred by armed police/security. They won't care if people could be armed or not, they just want to kill as many as possible before getting killed or killing themselves.
A suicide type killer, who has no regard for his life is the most dangerous. They won't be deterred by armed police/security. They won't care if people could be armed or not, they just want to kill as many as possible before getting killed or killing themselves.
Even if they are not deterred they could possibly be stopped.
That's at least something.
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Anyone who believes that armed guards in the schools wouldn't make things a little safer let me ask you this:
Why not save money by removing all the armed guards from shopping centers banks airports at cetera?
WSS
Anyone who believes that armed guards in the schools wouldn't make things a little safer let me ask you this:
Why not save money by removing all the armed guards from shopping centers banks airports at cetera?
WSS
Because scary terrorism.
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The school where the President sends his children has armed guards.
Before the Secret Service arrived.
More do as I say, not as I do bullshit.
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How much would it cost to put armed guards in every public school?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
How much would it cost to put armed guards in every public school?
Why don't you research it and get back to us.
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How much would it cost to put armed guards in every public school?
Why don't you research it and get back to us.
Why don't you research it and get back to us.
I'm on break
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How much would it cost to put armed guards in every public school?
Around my town business' pay off duty police maybe $20 a hour.
I suppose you could hire your own certified security officers who work for the school system....pay and provide benefits on a level with a teacher....you would have lot's of cops applying for those positions.
30-40 K per school is a realistic amount that could be raised. A middle of the road security monitoring system with 4-5 cameras would be easy enough to put in place.
Also, something I have said for years, every parent with a child in school should be required to pay X dollars for the extra security and OR be required to work a day a year as a hall monitor. Just stand watch with walkie talkie in hand at various posts throughout the school.
I am not big on mandating to business, but one I would is when a parent is assigned a verified "school" day, they don't get docked pay. Their place of employment has to pay them their normal days pay, be it a full time salary or the 4 hours they averaged down at the local restaurant.
Getting more parents in to these schools would help control the kids if they see their parents, or the parents of friends walking the halls.
On any given school day you might have 4-5-6 parents to help keep watch.
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How much would it cost to put armed guards in every public school?
Around my town business' pay off duty police maybe $20 a hour.
I suppose you could hire your own certified security officers who work for the school system....pay and provide benefits on a level with a teacher....you would have lot's of cops applying for those positions.
30-40 K per school is a realistic amount that could be raised. A middle of the road security monitoring system with 4-5 cameras would be easy enough to put in place.
Also, something I have said for years, every parent with a child in school should be required to pay X dollars for the extra security and OR be required to work a day a year as a hall monitor. Just stand watch with walkie talkie in hand at various posts throughout the school.
I am not big on mandating to business, but one I would is when a parent is assigned a verified "school" day, they don't get docked pay. Their place of employment has to pay them their normal days pay, be it a full time salary or the 4 hours they averaged down at the local restaurant.
Getting more parents in to these schools would help control the kids if they see their parents, or the parents of friends walking the halls.
On any given school day you might have 4-5-6 parents to help keep watch.
Around my town business' pay off duty police maybe $20 a hour.
I suppose you could hire your own certified security officers who work for the school system....pay and provide benefits on a level with a teacher....you would have lot's of cops applying for those positions.
30-40 K per school is a realistic amount that could be raised. A middle of the road security monitoring system with 4-5 cameras would be easy enough to put in place.
Also, something I have said for years, every parent with a child in school should be required to pay X dollars for the extra security and OR be required to work a day a year as a hall monitor. Just stand watch with walkie talkie in hand at various posts throughout the school.
I am not big on mandating to business, but one I would is when a parent is assigned a verified "school" day, they don't get docked pay. Their place of employment has to pay them their normal days pay, be it a full time salary or the 4 hours they averaged down at the local restaurant.
Getting more parents in to these schools would help control the kids if they see their parents, or the parents of friends walking the halls.
On any given school day you might have 4-5-6 parents to help keep watch.
They had a big problem in the Parma City School system here a couple of years ago. They found out that Police Officers were calling off sick, being paid sick leave, then working for the Parma School System as Security, thereby getting paid twice. One guy made over $100,000. There was a big deal in the PD about this as Parma had big budget problems.
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We can't even pass a levy here lol
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Divert the funds for lib "diversity training, marxist dogma, and evolution at the expense of religious beliefs, etc,
and it would help correct our curriculum deficiencies, ....towards safety in schools. A simple security system would
do wonders.
Meanwhile, a kid killed his family with gasoline. Not one lib thinks we need to control that dangerous, potentially lethal substance.
Not one lib cares about the deaths.
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Divert the funds for lib "diversity training, marxist dogma, and evolution at the expense of religious beliefs, etc,
and it would help correct our curriculum deficiencies, ....towards safety in schools. A simple security system would
do wonders.
Meanwhile, a kid killed his family with gasoline. Not one lib thinks we need to control that dangerous, potentially lethal substance.
Not one lib cares about the deaths.
Divert the funds for lib "diversity training, marxist dogma, and evolution at the expense of religious beliefs, etc,
and it would help correct our curriculum deficiencies, ....towards safety in schools. A simple security system would
do wonders.
Meanwhile, a kid killed his family with gasoline. Not one lib thinks we need to control that dangerous, potentially lethal substance.
Not one lib cares about the deaths.
Gasoline does way more good and has more of a positive affect on our society than guns do, just saying.
"Evolution at the expense of religious beliefs"
What the fuck are you talking about? When school teaches sciences, and what you believe has no scientific merit, then guess what, it won't get taught. I would want the correct, scientifically backed principle to be taught at the expense of the incorrect one with no sicence behind it....
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You mis-spelled "science", btw.....
I'm fine with teaching evolution. But teaching that God doesn't exist because of evolution is part of
the left's misinterpretation of the "separation of church and state".
As in, no mandated religion established by the state.,
It's turned into an anti-God, intimidation of anybody in a school, who has religious beliefs.
If students freely choose to do a school play that has religious basis to it....
the ACLU lawsuit will be threatened fast. There IS science behind evolution.
There is also science behind Christianity. But any science the left doesn't like,
they refuse to accept. As nearly? always. That should have been obvious...
You said
"Gasoline does way more good and has more of a positive affect on our society than guns do, just saying"
Where's the "science" in that? Gasoline ever PROTECT life? It's only taken lives.
Millions of guns, the Castle laws, ccw, - are a huge, huge deterent to violent crime.
Go look at Australia and Great Britain and Wales. They tried it, had the opposite affect that they wanted.
Criminals had the guns in the civilian populace.
Alchohol kills, too. Is there that much benefit to society with alchohol? Why not "ban" it then?
Make it harder to obtain? We have laws ...but underage kids still get it.... and all too often,
bad, and tragic things happen.
Education is the key, and the REestablishment of responsibllity as a cultural American ideal, instead of
one party pandering to the exact opposite. It's called "enabling", and over the decades, it's taken a sad toll on our
country.
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