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  • Slamfire44 S
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    S Slamfire44 wrote on last edited by
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    Adding a FA agent or two to fill a need or upgrade a position, no problem. Look at Philly prior to the 2011 season when they went on their FA binge...the so called "Deam Team" debacle.

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      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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      I'd feel a little shaky about trading for Belichiks backup quarterback as Tom Brady isn't getting any younger.

      I want to puke thinking about another 5 years of rebuilding after the new regime comes in and cans everybody.

      Hopefully somebody will think a touch of consistency might be a good thing, ya think?

      But we already have two competent backup quarterbacks. Why trade for another?

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        Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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        Its not bad to dip into FA time to time to fill holes with capable starters. You simply cannot count on the draft alone to build your team. If we fill a couple holes with a player of Frostee Ruckers caliber (G, FB, FS come to mind) it wont be expensive and anytime you upgrade the worst positions on your team with capable players you get better. The key is getting your stars through the draft.

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          H Hate wrote on last edited by
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          FA can be a good way to fill positions as a stop gap. But most of the good players are getting overpaid. We need a corner, this FA has plenty of good ones. A sleeper guy like Derrick Cox would be awesome. If we could steal Mike Wallace from Pittsburgh who likely won't give him the money he wants, that would be swell too.

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            tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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            Weeden will be fine, but since everyone on this board wants a new QB every year, here yoiu go this yrs FA coming your way...

            Luke McCown – ATL

            Joe Flacco – BAL

            Tarvaris Jackson – BUF

            Tyler Thigpen – BUF

            Derek Anderson – CAR

            Jason Campbell – CHI

            Josh McCown – CHI

            Bruce Gradkowski – CIN

            Drew Stanton – IND

            Brady Quinn – KC

            Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex)

            Matt Moore – MIA

            Chase Daniel – NO

            David Carr – NYG

            Matt Leinart – OAK

            Charlie Batch – PIT

            Byron Leftwich – PIT

            Kellen Clemens – STL

            Rex Grossman – WAS

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              tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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              Here is the Top 50 FA coming your way....

              Player

              Team

              Pos

              Age

              1. Ryan Clady

              Broncos

              OT

              26

              2. Jairus Byrd

              Bills

              S

              26

              3. Victor Cruz (Restricted)

              Giants

              WR

              26

              4. Andre Smith

              Bengals

              OT

              26

              5. Dwayne Bowe

              Chiefs

              WR

              28

              6. Henry Melton

              Bears

              DT

              26

              7. Greg Jennings

              Packers

              WR

              29

              8. Wes Welker

              Patriots

              WR

              32

              9. Andy Levitre

              Bills

              G

              27

              10. Joe Flacco

              Ravens

              QB

              28

              11. Sebastian Vollmer

              Patriots

              OT

              28

              12. Michael Bennett

              Buccaneers

              DE

              27

              13. Anthony Spencer

              Cowboys

              OLB

              29

              14. Steven Jackson

              Rams

              RB

              30

              15. Branden Albert

              Chiefs

              OT

              28

              16. Jake Long

              Dolphins

              OT

              28

              17. Brent Grimes

              Falcons

              CB

              30

              18. Mike Wallace

              Steelers

              WR

              26

              19. Dashon Goldson

              49ers

              S

              28

              20. Randy Starks

              Dolphins

              DT

              29

              21. Martellus Bennett

              Giants

              TE

              26

              22. Will Beatty

              Giants

              OT

              28

              23. Richard Seymour

              Raiders

              DT

              33

              24. Phil Loadholt

              Vikings

              OT

              27

              25. Aqib Talib

              Patriots

              CB

              27

              26. Jermon Bushrod

              Saints

              OT

              29

              27. Danny Amendola

              Rams

              WR

              27

              28. William Moore

              Falcons

              S

              28

              29. Kenny Phillips

              Giants

              S

              26

              30. Heath Miller

              Steelers

              TE

              30

              31. Tony Gonzalez

              Falcons

              TE

              37

              32. Philip Wheeler

              Raiders

              OLB

              28

              33. Ed Reed

              Ravens

              S

              34

              34. Chris Houston

              Lions

              CB

              28

              35. Gosder Cherilus

              Lions

              OT

              29

              36. Cliff Avril

              Lions

              DE

              26

              37. Alan Branch

              Seahawks

              DT

              28

              38. Ryan Lilja

              Chiefs

              G

              31

              39. Michael Johnson

              Bengals

              DE

              26

              40. Jason Jones

              Seahawks

              DT

              27

              41. Daryl Smith

              Jaguars

              OLB

              31

              42. Desmond Bryant

              Raiders

              DT

              27

              43. Brian Hartline

              Dolphins

              WR

              26

              44. Leodis McKelvin

              Bills

              CB

              27

              45. Danario Alexander (Restricted)

              Chargers

              WR

              25

              46. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

              Eagles

              CB

              27

              47. Reggie Bush

              Dolphins

              RB

              28

              48. Osi Umenyiora

              Giants

              DE

              31

              49. Dwight Freeney

              Colts

              DE

              33

              50. Brian De La Puente (Restricted)

              Saints

              C

              28

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              • tampadawgsT tampadawgs

                Weeden will be fine, but since everyone on this board wants a new QB every year, here yoiu go this yrs FA coming your way...

                Luke McCown – ATL

                Joe Flacco – BAL

                Tarvaris Jackson – BUF

                Tyler Thigpen – BUF

                Derek Anderson – CAR

                Jason Campbell – CHI

                Josh McCown – CHI

                Bruce Gradkowski – CIN

                Drew Stanton – IND

                Brady Quinn – KC

                Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex)

                Matt Moore – MIA

                Chase Daniel – NO

                David Carr – NYG

                Matt Leinart – OAK

                Charlie Batch – PIT

                Byron Leftwich – PIT

                Kellen Clemens – STL

                Rex Grossman – WAS

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @tampadawgs said:

                Weeden will be fine, but since everyone on this board wants a new QB every year, here yoiu go this yrs FA coming your way...

                Luke McCown – ATL

                Joe Flacco – BAL

                Tarvaris Jackson – BUF

                Tyler Thigpen – BUF

                Derek Anderson – CAR

                Jason Campbell – CHI

                Josh McCown – CHI

                Bruce Gradkowski – CIN

                Drew Stanton – IND

                Brady Quinn – KC

                Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex)

                Matt Moore – MIA

                Chase Daniel – NO

                David Carr – NYG

                Matt Leinart – OAK

                Charlie Batch – PIT

                Byron Leftwich – PIT

                Kellen Clemens – STL

                Rex Grossman – WAS

                Ugly...obviously the best on there is Flacco, and he probably won't be leaving Baltimore. Given this list, I will stick with Weeden and McCoy. (and somebody that knows how to coach them)

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                  tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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                  Did you see there are 5 former Browns on that list

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                    @tampadawgs said:

                    Weeden will be fine, but since everyone on this board wants a new QB every year, here yoiu go this yrs FA coming your way...

                    Luke McCown – ATL

                    Joe Flacco – BAL

                    Tarvaris Jackson – BUF

                    Tyler Thigpen – BUF

                    Derek Anderson – CAR

                    Jason Campbell – CHI

                    Josh McCown – CHI

                    Bruce Gradkowski – CIN

                    Drew Stanton – IND

                    Brady Quinn – KC

                    Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex)

                    Matt Moore – MIA

                    Chase Daniel – NO

                    David Carr – NYG

                    Matt Leinart – OAK

                    Charlie Batch – PIT

                    Byron Leftwich – PIT

                    Kellen Clemens – STL

                    Rex Grossman – WAS

                    Ugly...obviously the best on there is Flacco, and he probably won't be leaving Baltimore. Given this list, I will stick with Weeden and McCoy. (and somebody that knows how to coach them)

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                    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Ugly...obviously the best on there is Flacco, and he probably won't be leaving Baltimore. Given this list, I will stick with Weeden and McCoy. (and somebody that knows how to coach them)

                    for sure. Lots of crap out there.

                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
                      #19

                      To me free agency isn't the place to find your skill players....who let's those go all that often??

                      It's a good place to find decent plug in linemen and sometimes workman like backers and kickers.

                      By all means we should explore FA, but as a rule you win through the draft.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        Here is the Top 50 FA coming your way....

                        Player

                        Team

                        Pos

                        Age

                        1. Ryan Clady

                        Broncos

                        OT

                        26

                        2. Jairus Byrd

                        Bills

                        S

                        26

                        3. Victor Cruz (Restricted)

                        Giants

                        WR

                        26

                        4. Andre Smith

                        Bengals

                        OT

                        26

                        5. Dwayne Bowe

                        Chiefs

                        WR

                        28

                        6. Henry Melton

                        Bears

                        DT

                        26

                        7. Greg Jennings

                        Packers

                        WR

                        29

                        8. Wes Welker

                        Patriots

                        WR

                        32

                        9. Andy Levitre

                        Bills

                        G

                        27

                        10. Joe Flacco

                        Ravens

                        QB

                        28

                        11. Sebastian Vollmer

                        Patriots

                        OT

                        28

                        12. Michael Bennett

                        Buccaneers

                        DE

                        27

                        13. Anthony Spencer

                        Cowboys

                        OLB

                        29

                        14. Steven Jackson

                        Rams

                        RB

                        30

                        15. Branden Albert

                        Chiefs

                        OT

                        28

                        16. Jake Long

                        Dolphins

                        OT

                        28

                        17. Brent Grimes

                        Falcons

                        CB

                        30

                        18. Mike Wallace

                        Steelers

                        WR

                        26

                        19. Dashon Goldson

                        49ers

                        S

                        28

                        20. Randy Starks

                        Dolphins

                        DT

                        29

                        21. Martellus Bennett

                        Giants

                        TE

                        26

                        22. Will Beatty

                        Giants

                        OT

                        28

                        23. Richard Seymour

                        Raiders

                        DT

                        33

                        24. Phil Loadholt

                        Vikings

                        OT

                        27

                        25. Aqib Talib

                        Patriots

                        CB

                        27

                        26. Jermon Bushrod

                        Saints

                        OT

                        29

                        27. Danny Amendola

                        Rams

                        WR

                        27

                        28. William Moore

                        Falcons

                        S

                        28

                        29. Kenny Phillips

                        Giants

                        S

                        26

                        30. Heath Miller

                        Steelers

                        TE

                        30

                        31. Tony Gonzalez

                        Falcons

                        TE

                        37

                        32. Philip Wheeler

                        Raiders

                        OLB

                        28

                        33. Ed Reed

                        Ravens

                        S

                        34

                        34. Chris Houston

                        Lions

                        CB

                        28

                        35. Gosder Cherilus

                        Lions

                        OT

                        29

                        36. Cliff Avril

                        Lions

                        DE

                        26

                        37. Alan Branch

                        Seahawks

                        DT

                        28

                        38. Ryan Lilja

                        Chiefs

                        G

                        31

                        39. Michael Johnson

                        Bengals

                        DE

                        26

                        40. Jason Jones

                        Seahawks

                        DT

                        27

                        41. Daryl Smith

                        Jaguars

                        OLB

                        31

                        42. Desmond Bryant

                        Raiders

                        DT

                        27

                        43. Brian Hartline

                        Dolphins

                        WR

                        26

                        44. Leodis McKelvin

                        Bills

                        CB

                        27

                        45. Danario Alexander (Restricted)

                        Chargers

                        WR

                        25

                        46. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

                        Eagles

                        CB

                        27

                        47. Reggie Bush

                        Dolphins

                        RB

                        28

                        48. Osi Umenyiora

                        Giants

                        DE

                        31

                        49. Dwight Freeney

                        Colts

                        DE

                        33

                        50. Brian De La Puente (Restricted)

                        Saints

                        C

                        28

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        @tampadawgs said:

                        Here is the Top 50 FA coming your way....

                        uh, can you not post a 12 page scroll down list?

                        fuck Free agency. heckert has done good by us and the holy dollar bill bottom line.

                        linebacker, linebacker, linebacker. draft.

                        then corner and safety.

                        our D is 2 steps away from being the best in the league.

                        no receivers. gordon and little will be lighting it up next year once our old rookie QB settles down a piece and plays like the coaches think he can play.

                        guarantee= next year without any major changes we go 'at least' 9-7.

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                          H Hate wrote on last edited by
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                          I think you can include Alex Smith on that list, he will be cut because they won't be paying his signing bonus. That is of course if Kaepernick doesn't bomb the rest of the way.

                          That list we could fill some needs from *if some become FAs*. Sean Smith, Derrick Cox, DRC, Michael Johnson (Bengals almost never pay their FA), Daryl Smith. The list of FAs is solid this year, you can't fix everything in the draft.

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