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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
    #11

    I'd feel a little shaky about trading for Belichiks backup quarterback as Tom Brady isn't getting any younger.

    I want to puke thinking about another 5 years of rebuilding after the new regime comes in and cans everybody.

    Hopefully somebody will think a touch of consistency might be a good thing, ya think?

    But we already have two competent backup quarterbacks. Why trade for another?

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      Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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      Its not bad to dip into FA time to time to fill holes with capable starters. You simply cannot count on the draft alone to build your team. If we fill a couple holes with a player of Frostee Ruckers caliber (G, FB, FS come to mind) it wont be expensive and anytime you upgrade the worst positions on your team with capable players you get better. The key is getting your stars through the draft.

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        H Hate wrote on last edited by
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        FA can be a good way to fill positions as a stop gap. But most of the good players are getting overpaid. We need a corner, this FA has plenty of good ones. A sleeper guy like Derrick Cox would be awesome. If we could steal Mike Wallace from Pittsburgh who likely won't give him the money he wants, that would be swell too.

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          tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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          Weeden will be fine, but since everyone on this board wants a new QB every year, here yoiu go this yrs FA coming your way...

          Luke McCown – ATL

          Joe Flacco – BAL

          Tarvaris Jackson – BUF

          Tyler Thigpen – BUF

          Derek Anderson – CAR

          Jason Campbell – CHI

          Josh McCown – CHI

          Bruce Gradkowski – CIN

          Drew Stanton – IND

          Brady Quinn – KC

          Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex)

          Matt Moore – MIA

          Chase Daniel – NO

          David Carr – NYG

          Matt Leinart – OAK

          Charlie Batch – PIT

          Byron Leftwich – PIT

          Kellen Clemens – STL

          Rex Grossman – WAS

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            tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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            Here is the Top 50 FA coming your way....

            Player

            Team

            Pos

            Age

            1. Ryan Clady

            Broncos

            OT

            26

            2. Jairus Byrd

            Bills

            S

            26

            3. Victor Cruz (Restricted)

            Giants

            WR

            26

            4. Andre Smith

            Bengals

            OT

            26

            5. Dwayne Bowe

            Chiefs

            WR

            28

            6. Henry Melton

            Bears

            DT

            26

            7. Greg Jennings

            Packers

            WR

            29

            8. Wes Welker

            Patriots

            WR

            32

            9. Andy Levitre

            Bills

            G

            27

            10. Joe Flacco

            Ravens

            QB

            28

            11. Sebastian Vollmer

            Patriots

            OT

            28

            12. Michael Bennett

            Buccaneers

            DE

            27

            13. Anthony Spencer

            Cowboys

            OLB

            29

            14. Steven Jackson

            Rams

            RB

            30

            15. Branden Albert

            Chiefs

            OT

            28

            16. Jake Long

            Dolphins

            OT

            28

            17. Brent Grimes

            Falcons

            CB

            30

            18. Mike Wallace

            Steelers

            WR

            26

            19. Dashon Goldson

            49ers

            S

            28

            20. Randy Starks

            Dolphins

            DT

            29

            21. Martellus Bennett

            Giants

            TE

            26

            22. Will Beatty

            Giants

            OT

            28

            23. Richard Seymour

            Raiders

            DT

            33

            24. Phil Loadholt

            Vikings

            OT

            27

            25. Aqib Talib

            Patriots

            CB

            27

            26. Jermon Bushrod

            Saints

            OT

            29

            27. Danny Amendola

            Rams

            WR

            27

            28. William Moore

            Falcons

            S

            28

            29. Kenny Phillips

            Giants

            S

            26

            30. Heath Miller

            Steelers

            TE

            30

            31. Tony Gonzalez

            Falcons

            TE

            37

            32. Philip Wheeler

            Raiders

            OLB

            28

            33. Ed Reed

            Ravens

            S

            34

            34. Chris Houston

            Lions

            CB

            28

            35. Gosder Cherilus

            Lions

            OT

            29

            36. Cliff Avril

            Lions

            DE

            26

            37. Alan Branch

            Seahawks

            DT

            28

            38. Ryan Lilja

            Chiefs

            G

            31

            39. Michael Johnson

            Bengals

            DE

            26

            40. Jason Jones

            Seahawks

            DT

            27

            41. Daryl Smith

            Jaguars

            OLB

            31

            42. Desmond Bryant

            Raiders

            DT

            27

            43. Brian Hartline

            Dolphins

            WR

            26

            44. Leodis McKelvin

            Bills

            CB

            27

            45. Danario Alexander (Restricted)

            Chargers

            WR

            25

            46. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

            Eagles

            CB

            27

            47. Reggie Bush

            Dolphins

            RB

            28

            48. Osi Umenyiora

            Giants

            DE

            31

            49. Dwight Freeney

            Colts

            DE

            33

            50. Brian De La Puente (Restricted)

            Saints

            C

            28

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            • tampadawgsT tampadawgs

              Weeden will be fine, but since everyone on this board wants a new QB every year, here yoiu go this yrs FA coming your way...

              Luke McCown – ATL

              Joe Flacco – BAL

              Tarvaris Jackson – BUF

              Tyler Thigpen – BUF

              Derek Anderson – CAR

              Jason Campbell – CHI

              Josh McCown – CHI

              Bruce Gradkowski – CIN

              Drew Stanton – IND

              Brady Quinn – KC

              Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex)

              Matt Moore – MIA

              Chase Daniel – NO

              David Carr – NYG

              Matt Leinart – OAK

              Charlie Batch – PIT

              Byron Leftwich – PIT

              Kellen Clemens – STL

              Rex Grossman – WAS

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @tampadawgs said:

              Weeden will be fine, but since everyone on this board wants a new QB every year, here yoiu go this yrs FA coming your way...

              Luke McCown – ATL

              Joe Flacco – BAL

              Tarvaris Jackson – BUF

              Tyler Thigpen – BUF

              Derek Anderson – CAR

              Jason Campbell – CHI

              Josh McCown – CHI

              Bruce Gradkowski – CIN

              Drew Stanton – IND

              Brady Quinn – KC

              Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex)

              Matt Moore – MIA

              Chase Daniel – NO

              David Carr – NYG

              Matt Leinart – OAK

              Charlie Batch – PIT

              Byron Leftwich – PIT

              Kellen Clemens – STL

              Rex Grossman – WAS

              Ugly...obviously the best on there is Flacco, and he probably won't be leaving Baltimore. Given this list, I will stick with Weeden and McCoy. (and somebody that knows how to coach them)

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                tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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                Did you see there are 5 former Browns on that list

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                  @tampadawgs said:

                  Weeden will be fine, but since everyone on this board wants a new QB every year, here yoiu go this yrs FA coming your way...

                  Luke McCown – ATL

                  Joe Flacco – BAL

                  Tarvaris Jackson – BUF

                  Tyler Thigpen – BUF

                  Derek Anderson – CAR

                  Jason Campbell – CHI

                  Josh McCown – CHI

                  Bruce Gradkowski – CIN

                  Drew Stanton – IND

                  Brady Quinn – KC

                  Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex)

                  Matt Moore – MIA

                  Chase Daniel – NO

                  David Carr – NYG

                  Matt Leinart – OAK

                  Charlie Batch – PIT

                  Byron Leftwich – PIT

                  Kellen Clemens – STL

                  Rex Grossman – WAS

                  Ugly...obviously the best on there is Flacco, and he probably won't be leaving Baltimore. Given this list, I will stick with Weeden and McCoy. (and somebody that knows how to coach them)

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                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Ugly...obviously the best on there is Flacco, and he probably won't be leaving Baltimore. Given this list, I will stick with Weeden and McCoy. (and somebody that knows how to coach them)

                  for sure. Lots of crap out there.

                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
                    #19

                    To me free agency isn't the place to find your skill players....who let's those go all that often??

                    It's a good place to find decent plug in linemen and sometimes workman like backers and kickers.

                    By all means we should explore FA, but as a rule you win through the draft.

                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      Here is the Top 50 FA coming your way....

                      Player

                      Team

                      Pos

                      Age

                      1. Ryan Clady

                      Broncos

                      OT

                      26

                      2. Jairus Byrd

                      Bills

                      S

                      26

                      3. Victor Cruz (Restricted)

                      Giants

                      WR

                      26

                      4. Andre Smith

                      Bengals

                      OT

                      26

                      5. Dwayne Bowe

                      Chiefs

                      WR

                      28

                      6. Henry Melton

                      Bears

                      DT

                      26

                      7. Greg Jennings

                      Packers

                      WR

                      29

                      8. Wes Welker

                      Patriots

                      WR

                      32

                      9. Andy Levitre

                      Bills

                      G

                      27

                      10. Joe Flacco

                      Ravens

                      QB

                      28

                      11. Sebastian Vollmer

                      Patriots

                      OT

                      28

                      12. Michael Bennett

                      Buccaneers

                      DE

                      27

                      13. Anthony Spencer

                      Cowboys

                      OLB

                      29

                      14. Steven Jackson

                      Rams

                      RB

                      30

                      15. Branden Albert

                      Chiefs

                      OT

                      28

                      16. Jake Long

                      Dolphins

                      OT

                      28

                      17. Brent Grimes

                      Falcons

                      CB

                      30

                      18. Mike Wallace

                      Steelers

                      WR

                      26

                      19. Dashon Goldson

                      49ers

                      S

                      28

                      20. Randy Starks

                      Dolphins

                      DT

                      29

                      21. Martellus Bennett

                      Giants

                      TE

                      26

                      22. Will Beatty

                      Giants

                      OT

                      28

                      23. Richard Seymour

                      Raiders

                      DT

                      33

                      24. Phil Loadholt

                      Vikings

                      OT

                      27

                      25. Aqib Talib

                      Patriots

                      CB

                      27

                      26. Jermon Bushrod

                      Saints

                      OT

                      29

                      27. Danny Amendola

                      Rams

                      WR

                      27

                      28. William Moore

                      Falcons

                      S

                      28

                      29. Kenny Phillips

                      Giants

                      S

                      26

                      30. Heath Miller

                      Steelers

                      TE

                      30

                      31. Tony Gonzalez

                      Falcons

                      TE

                      37

                      32. Philip Wheeler

                      Raiders

                      OLB

                      28

                      33. Ed Reed

                      Ravens

                      S

                      34

                      34. Chris Houston

                      Lions

                      CB

                      28

                      35. Gosder Cherilus

                      Lions

                      OT

                      29

                      36. Cliff Avril

                      Lions

                      DE

                      26

                      37. Alan Branch

                      Seahawks

                      DT

                      28

                      38. Ryan Lilja

                      Chiefs

                      G

                      31

                      39. Michael Johnson

                      Bengals

                      DE

                      26

                      40. Jason Jones

                      Seahawks

                      DT

                      27

                      41. Daryl Smith

                      Jaguars

                      OLB

                      31

                      42. Desmond Bryant

                      Raiders

                      DT

                      27

                      43. Brian Hartline

                      Dolphins

                      WR

                      26

                      44. Leodis McKelvin

                      Bills

                      CB

                      27

                      45. Danario Alexander (Restricted)

                      Chargers

                      WR

                      25

                      46. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

                      Eagles

                      CB

                      27

                      47. Reggie Bush

                      Dolphins

                      RB

                      28

                      48. Osi Umenyiora

                      Giants

                      DE

                      31

                      49. Dwight Freeney

                      Colts

                      DE

                      33

                      50. Brian De La Puente (Restricted)

                      Saints

                      C

                      28

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                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                      @tampadawgs said:

                      Here is the Top 50 FA coming your way....

                      uh, can you not post a 12 page scroll down list?

                      fuck Free agency. heckert has done good by us and the holy dollar bill bottom line.

                      linebacker, linebacker, linebacker. draft.

                      then corner and safety.

                      our D is 2 steps away from being the best in the league.

                      no receivers. gordon and little will be lighting it up next year once our old rookie QB settles down a piece and plays like the coaches think he can play.

                      guarantee= next year without any major changes we go 'at least' 9-7.

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                        H Hate wrote on last edited by
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                        I think you can include Alex Smith on that list, he will be cut because they won't be paying his signing bonus. That is of course if Kaepernick doesn't bomb the rest of the way.

                        That list we could fill some needs from *if some become FAs*. Sean Smith, Derrick Cox, DRC, Michael Johnson (Bengals almost never pay their FA), Daryl Smith. The list of FAs is solid this year, you can't fix everything in the draft.

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