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  • thenew23 thenew23T
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    thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

    Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

    #Justsayin'
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      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

      Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

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      BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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      @thenew23 said:

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

      Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

      At least he understands that much.

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        Browns616B Browns616 wrote on last edited by
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        NBC is reporting Chip Kelly to interview Friday for Browns head coach

        http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/report-chip-kelly-browns-to-meet-friday/related/

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        • thenew23T thenew23

          http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

          Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149
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          @thenew23 said:

          http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

          Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

          If he understands adjusting to the team, that is a fresh aproach compared to what we just had the past 4 years of Mangini and Shurmers crap

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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            If I were a betting man, I'd go all in on Chip Kelly.

            Banner is flying there just blow through the Rooney Rule guy and nab Kelly before anyone else talks to him.

            Reminds me of when the Ravens outsmarted us for Brian Billick. We "insisted" that he fly to Cleveland after the Vikings playoff loss that year ... Ravens just sent a plane out and got him.

            Banner wants Kelly and is going to get him.

            Which means we need a really good defensive coordinator and a really good GM, because Kelly knows nothing about either.

            Zombo

            --Only a Saban coup will topple Kelly to Cleveland, IMO

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            • choco chocoC
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              chocoC choco wrote on last edited by choco
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              My only worry about kelly is the amount of control hes gonna have....ala policy all over again. But the genius of kellys system is that its not predicated on a specific type of personnel, rather its dictated by defenses alignment. Its about gap production when runnjng the ball, and attacking open areas thru the air. Many things go into it, but its more than having a running QB. All the while using tempo to dictate substitutions and matchups.

              Nothing about his system says it cant work in the NFL....its more about how banners gonna fuck up the personnel side. It seems to be that kelly wants some control, which means a director of pro personnel rather than a GM....in the traditional sense. Banner already has said he prefers this type of setup. However, being that banner will have control over the checkbook, he has final say. So a guy like lombardi makes sense, cause any GM witb talent is not going to come running here to be a coffee fetcher. It automatically eliminates any candidates that are with other clubs that would require a "promotion", since controlling the scouting dept isnt a promotion for many qualified candidates.

              Many pitfalls await if this is the direction....could work though if kelly is as good as advertised.

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                Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                Just heard it reported on NFL network that Kelley will not be demanding full control. He also is meeting with the Bills and Eagles this weekend as well as the Browns.

                Elsewhere, Andy Reid is meeting with the Cardinals and Chiefs and just heard it reported that he would bring our old friend Pat Shurmur with him as OC.

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                  M mdmusch wrote on last edited by
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                  Weeden ran an offense where he would read a short pass option first and then hand off if it was not there.... Chip runs similar things with Oregon. Each play pretty much has a read and then a fall back, often into an extremely high percentage route/handoff.

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                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                    Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.

                    It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.

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                      H Hate wrote on last edited by
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                      I'm not sure I want Whisenhunt, he was around great coaches when they went to the SB and he likely won't have either of those when he starts over with another team. No Ray Horton, no Todd Haley (who was great in Zona).

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                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                        Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits? 😛 ...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?

                        Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.

                        Anyone know?

                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                          Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits? 😛 ...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?

                          Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.

                          Anyone know?

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                          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                          @ballpeen said:

                          Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits? 😛 ...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?

                          Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.

                          Anyone know?

                          Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.

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                            Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.

                            It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @jrb12711 said:

                            Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.

                            It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.

                            Like I said before, I believe it was the Steelers who interviewed Mike Tomlin, believing that the only reason to do so was to fulfill the requirements of the Rooney Rule....but then they came away so impressed that they gave him the job.

                            Could that happen here?

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                              thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                              http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/03/browns-have-already-interviewed-bill-obrien/

                              Just reported: the Browns already interviewed Bill O'brien. The plot thickens.

                              #Justsayin'
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                                @ballpeen said:

                                Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits? 😛 ...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?

                                Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.

                                Anyone know?

                                Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.

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                                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                @jrb12711 said:

                                Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.

                                Thanks.

                                Today I am reading more that says Haslam is in the house.

                                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                  thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                  Updated list of interviewees:

                                  Ray Horton

                                  Bill O'Brien

                                  Ken Wisenhunt

                                  Doug Marrone

                                  Chip Kelly (tomorrow)

                                  Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?

                                  Mike McCoy

                                  Kyle Shanahan

                                  Others??

                                  Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?

                                  #Justsayin'
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                                  • thenew23T thenew23

                                    Updated list of interviewees:

                                    Ray Horton

                                    Bill O'Brien

                                    Ken Wisenhunt

                                    Doug Marrone

                                    Chip Kelly (tomorrow)

                                    Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?

                                    Mike McCoy

                                    Kyle Shanahan

                                    Others??

                                    Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @thenew23 said:

                                    Updated list of interviewees:

                                    Ray Horton

                                    Bill O'Brien

                                    Ken Wisenhunt

                                    Doug Marrone

                                    Chip Kelly (tomorrow)

                                    Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?

                                    Mike McCoy

                                    Kyle Shanahan

                                    Others??

                                    Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?

                                    I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.

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                                    • The GipperT The Gipper

                                      @thenew23 said:

                                      Updated list of interviewees:

                                      Ray Horton

                                      Bill O'Brien

                                      Ken Wisenhunt

                                      Doug Marrone

                                      Chip Kelly (tomorrow)

                                      Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?

                                      Mike McCoy

                                      Kyle Shanahan

                                      Others??

                                      Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?

                                      I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.

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                                      slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by slowburn
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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.

                                      Why they would want to talk to this shitbird is beyond me.

                                      One perspective....

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                                        BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by BadNewsBrowns
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                                        One guy I do not want at all is Whisenhunt. Why? 58-0.

                                        Could you imagine the shit Shurmur would have gotten if he lost a game 58-0?

                                        The Browns were not outscored by 58 points cumulatively until week 15, 17 if you take into account our wins.

                                        "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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                                          H Hate wrote on last edited by
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                                          @therealtrizzo: I'm reporting #Browns are expected to interview Chip Kelly at 2p east!!! Noon local time in AZ

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