Candidates
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My only worry about kelly is the amount of control hes gonna have....ala policy all over again. But the genius of kellys system is that its not predicated on a specific type of personnel, rather its dictated by defenses alignment. Its about gap production when runnjng the ball, and attacking open areas thru the air. Many things go into it, but its more than having a running QB. All the while using tempo to dictate substitutions and matchups.
Nothing about his system says it cant work in the NFL....its more about how banners gonna fuck up the personnel side. It seems to be that kelly wants some control, which means a director of pro personnel rather than a GM....in the traditional sense. Banner already has said he prefers this type of setup. However, being that banner will have control over the checkbook, he has final say. So a guy like lombardi makes sense, cause any GM witb talent is not going to come running here to be a coffee fetcher. It automatically eliminates any candidates that are with other clubs that would require a "promotion", since controlling the scouting dept isnt a promotion for many qualified candidates.
Many pitfalls await if this is the direction....could work though if kelly is as good as advertised.
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Just heard it reported on NFL network that Kelley will not be demanding full control. He also is meeting with the Bills and Eagles this weekend as well as the Browns.
Elsewhere, Andy Reid is meeting with the Cardinals and Chiefs and just heard it reported that he would bring our old friend Pat Shurmur with him as OC.
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Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.
It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.
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Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits?
...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.
Anyone know?
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Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits?
...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.
Anyone know?
Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits?
...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.
Anyone know?
Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.
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Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.
It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.
Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.
It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.
Like I said before, I believe it was the Steelers who interviewed Mike Tomlin, believing that the only reason to do so was to fulfill the requirements of the Rooney Rule....but then they came away so impressed that they gave him the job.
Could that happen here?
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/03/browns-have-already-interviewed-bill-obrien/
Just reported: the Browns already interviewed Bill O'brien. The plot thickens.
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Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits?
...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.
Anyone know?
Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.
Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.
Thanks.
Today I am reading more that says Haslam is in the house.
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Updated list of interviewees:
Ray Horton
Bill O'Brien
Ken Wisenhunt
Doug Marrone
Chip Kelly (tomorrow)
Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?
Mike McCoy
Kyle Shanahan
Others??
Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?
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Updated list of interviewees:
Ray Horton
Bill O'Brien
Ken Wisenhunt
Doug Marrone
Chip Kelly (tomorrow)
Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?
Mike McCoy
Kyle Shanahan
Others??
Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?
Updated list of interviewees:
Ray Horton
Bill O'Brien
Ken Wisenhunt
Doug Marrone
Chip Kelly (tomorrow)
Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?
Mike McCoy
Kyle Shanahan
Others??
Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?
I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.
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Updated list of interviewees:
Ray Horton
Bill O'Brien
Ken Wisenhunt
Doug Marrone
Chip Kelly (tomorrow)
Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?
Mike McCoy
Kyle Shanahan
Others??
Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?
I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.
I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.
Why they would want to talk to this shitbird is beyond me.
One perspective....
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One guy I do not want at all is Whisenhunt. Why? 58-0.
Could you imagine the shit Shurmur would have gotten if he lost a game 58-0?
The Browns were not outscored by 58 points cumulatively until week 15, 17 if you take into account our wins.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.
Why they would want to talk to this shitbird is beyond me.
One perspective....
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Zombo said:
Mandich really held back.
He's a hoot on radio down here in South Florida
Zombo
I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.
If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.
I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.
After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.
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Zombo said:
Mandich really held back.
He's a hoot on radio down here in South Florida
Zombo
I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.
If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.
I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.
After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.
If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years
I take it you are not giving Notre Dame much of a shot?
Zombo
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Zombo said:
Mandich really held back.
He's a hoot on radio down here in South Florida
Zombo
I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.
If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.
I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.
After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.
I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.
If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.
I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.
After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.
Jim Mandich passed away from cancer over a year ago.
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If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years
I take it you are not giving Notre Dame much of a shot?
Zombo
Zombo said:
I take it you are not giving Notre Dame much of a shot?
Zombo
No, no, actually I would prefer if ND would win. And I think they have a hell of a chance.....but then so does Alabama. I guess I would be somewhat satisfied if Saban took the Browns to 3 Super Bowls, winning 2.
Would you take that?
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