Break Down Weeden's Rookie Year.
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Try to keep in mind what RG3 and Andrew Luck were doing last year.
They were playing quarterback on successful football teams.
Weeden, on the other hand, was sitting around the Yankees dugout tossing playing cards into an upturned hat.
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Weeden showed some glimpse early on in the season, but after that Ravens game and Banner being quoted as saying something along the lines of we aren't sold on Weeden, he went into the shitter.
In Weeden's defense I don't think Luck,RG3 or Wilson would have looked much better playing for us.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
Try to keep in mind what RG3 and Andrew Luck were doing last year.
They were playing quarterback on successful football teams.
Weeden, on the other hand, was sitting around the Yankees dugout tossing playing cards into an upturned hat.
WSS
Try to keep in mind what RG3 and Andrew Luck were doing last year.
They were playing quarterback on successful football teams.
Weeden, on the other hand, was sitting around the Yankees dugout tossing playing cards into an upturned hat.
WSS
That was like 4 years ago.
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Try to keep in mind what RG3 and Andrew Luck were doing last year.
They were playing quarterback on successful football teams.
Weeden, on the other hand, was sitting around the Yankees dugout tossing playing cards into an upturned hat.
WSS
Try to keep in mind what RG3 and Andrew Luck were doing last year.
They were playing quarterback on successful football teams.
Weeden, on the other hand, was sitting around the Yankees dugout tossing playing cards into an upturned hat.
WSS
Weeden was playing at Oklahoma State last year and beating Andrew Luck and Stanford in the bowl game.
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Try to keep in mind what RG3 and Andrew Luck were doing last year.
They were playing quarterback on successful football teams.
Weeden, on the other hand, was sitting around the Yankees dugout tossing playing cards into an upturned hat.
WSS
Try to keep in mind what RG3 and Andrew Luck were doing last year.
They were playing quarterback on successful football teams.
Weeden, on the other hand, was sitting around the Yankees dugout tossing playing cards into an upturned hat.
WSS
Weeden won the damn Fiesta Bowl against Stanford last year, wtf are you saying?
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Weeden showed some glimpse early on in the season, but after that Ravens game and Banner being quoted as saying something along the lines of we aren't sold on Weeden, he went into the shitter.
In Weeden's defense I don't think Luck,RG3 or Wilson would have looked much better playing for us.
Weeden showed some glimpse early on in the season, but after that Ravens game and Banner being quoted as saying something along the lines of we aren't sold on Weeden, he went into the shitter.
In Weeden's defense I don't think Luck,RG3 or Wilson would have looked much better playing for us.
I agree with the idea of NO qb would look good playing for Shurmer. I don't care who's playing QB, the system, playcalling, and utter predictability of Shurmer's crap offense would make Joe Montana look like Colt McCoy.
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Here we go with the Browns fanbase saying which QB will be good or not. Geno Smith >>>>> Weeden.
You dudes never learn. Not a very bright set of fans supporting this team
Unfortunately I have to agree here. Maybe it's something in the air in Cleveland as I actually live in South Florida, but there are a lot of crybabies out there cryin over things that A) they have no control over anyways, and B)Just show how little they actually know about football.
Look at Drew Brees and the Saints this year...Do you mean to tell me that you think that them losing Sean Peyton for the year isn't the reason they were horrible? Every other year they were lights out until this year...same squad, same coaches minus him...
Too many HOF QB's had horrible rookie years for you to want to rinse, repeat Weeden so soon.
Unfortunately I have to agree here. Maybe it's something in the air in Cleveland as I actually live in South Florida, but there are a lot of crybabies out there cryin over things that A) they have no control over anyways, and B)Just show how little they actually know about football.
Look at Drew Brees and the Saints this year...Do you mean to tell me that you think that them losing Sean Peyton for the year isn't the reason they were horrible? Every other year they were lights out until this year...same squad, same coaches minus him...
Too many HOF QB's had horrible rookie years for you to want to rinse, repeat Weeden so soon.
Losing Gregg Williams was bigger than Peyton. They still scored they just couldn't stop anyone. The air in South Florida must be thin cause a chimp could coach that offense and that's what Peyton does, he left stopping teams to Williams.
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Unfortunately I have to agree here. Maybe it's something in the air in Cleveland as I actually live in South Florida, but there are a lot of crybabies out there cryin over things that A) they have no control over anyways, and B)Just show how little they actually know about football.
Look at Drew Brees and the Saints this year...Do you mean to tell me that you think that them losing Sean Peyton for the year isn't the reason they were horrible? Every other year they were lights out until this year...same squad, same coaches minus him...
Too many HOF QB's had horrible rookie years for you to want to rinse, repeat Weeden so soon.
Losing Gregg Williams was bigger than Peyton. They still scored they just couldn't stop anyone. The air in South Florida must be thin cause a chimp could coach that offense and that's what Peyton does, he left stopping teams to Williams.
Losing Gregg Williams was bigger than Peyton. They still scored they just couldn't stop anyone. The air in South Florida must be thin cause a chimp could coach that offense and that's what Peyton does, he left stopping teams to Williams.
The Saints defense has always given up lots of points - even under Williams. The big difference with Williams was creating turnovers each game by blitzing on like 90% of the plays. The problem is the blitzes can backfire and lead to easy points for the opposing team. However, 1 or 2 turnovers can lead to quick points with the Saints offense. So I still say that losing Payton was much worse..
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Try to keep in mind what RG3 and Andrew Luck were doing last year.
They were playing quarterback on successful football teams.
Weeden, on the other hand, was sitting around the Yankees dugout tossing playing cards into an upturned hat.
WSS
That was like 4 years ago.
That was like 4 years ago.
It was indeed.
I guess I shouldn't mix beer and Thorazine.
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Ha that quote by Browns149 was pretty silly. "I agree with the idea of NO qb would look good playing for Shurmer. I don't care who's playing QB, the system, playcalling, and utter predictability of Shurmer's crap offense would make Joe Montana look like Colt McCoy." Says no QB would look good playing for Shurmer, yet at the end of the post McCoy (who played for Shurmer...with no offseason to learn Shurmers TERRIBLE offense...and far less talent around him....and a far tougher schedule) was still bad?
sigh....ha the hypocrisy is laughable. -
Ha that quote by Browns149 was pretty silly. "I agree with the idea of NO qb would look good playing for Shurmer. I don't care who's playing QB, the system, playcalling, and utter predictability of Shurmer's crap offense would make Joe Montana look like Colt McCoy." Says no QB would look good playing for Shurmer, yet at the end of the post McCoy (who played for Shurmer...with no offseason to learn Shurmers TERRIBLE offense...and far less talent around him....and a far tougher schedule) was still bad?
sigh....ha the hypocrisy is laughable.Ha that quote by Browns149 was pretty silly. "I agree with the idea of NO qb would look good playing for Shurmer. I don't care who's playing QB, the system, playcalling, and utter predictability of Shurmer's crap offense would make Joe Montana look like Colt McCoy." Says no QB would look good playing for Shurmer, yet at the end of the post McCoy (who played for Shurmer...with no offseason to learn Shurmers TERRIBLE offense...and far less talent around him....and a far tougher schedule) was still bad?
sigh....ha the hypocrisy is laughable.You really went out of your way to apologize for Colt there.
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How many other rookie QBs drafted after Weeden have outperformed Weeden? too many
Hmmm... maybe one (Wilson) but he is asked to be more of a game manager, while Weeden was asked to carry the offense on his shoulders.
Anyways, Weeden's ceiling could be anywhere from Eli Manning to Ryan Leaf. It's impossible to tell after one season, with young receivers and horrible playcalling. The OP didn't point out any positives like 1) he moves well within the pocket, 2) his arm strength is incredible, just needs to put more touch on short passes, 3) he's a student of the game and watches film religiously, 4) has guts...which I think Shurmur ruined half-way through the season, and 5) is a good leader, according to his teammates.
Drafting a QB in the 1st or 3rd would set this team behind another 3 years. Also, there are no FAs out there at QB that I see as an upgrade. Sorry, Weeden's the guy, and he needs to be given that chance. He really needs a vet WR and a good OC and I think we'll see a much better QB next year. Just my opinion.
I welcome an argument for a change at that position that would help us. I just don't see it.
Hmmm... maybe one (Wilson) but he is asked to be more of a game manager, while Weeden was asked to carry the offense on his shoulders.
Anyways, Weeden's ceiling could be anywhere from Eli Manning to Ryan Leaf. It's impossible to tell after one season, with young receivers and horrible playcalling. The OP didn't point out any positives like 1) he moves well within the pocket, 2) his arm strength is incredible, just needs to put more touch on short passes, 3) he's a student of the game and watches film religiously, 4) has guts...which I think Shurmur ruined half-way through the season, and 5) is a good leader, according to his teammates.
Carry the team... lol... too bad we did not draft a stud RB... oh wait... we did.
As for the analysis... no... gonna go with hoorta's below...
Yup, Weedster's got a slow release, minimal pocket presence, slow going through his progressions, not great at reading a defense, and like the baseball pitcher he was throws too many uncatchable high fastballs.
Good stuff, hoorta... just got his name wrong. It's "Wheezy".
Bottom line for me...
Wheezy improved in several areas (e.g., ball security, PAP) through the first half of the season, but then at best plateaued in the second half. I actually think he regressed in some areas. Maybe it was coaching; maybe it was his ceiling.
That said Colt way underwhelmed in his one 2012 opportunity. He looked more intent in trying to match Wheezy's arm strength than anything else... thus the number of turf burners. Saddened me that he was hurt for the final game. I would like to have seen where he was after a full week of 1st team prep.
And that that said I now know who Thad is... and he ain't our QB of the future.
As for 2013 Draft QB's... thin to be sure. An early Mock or two have us tabbing Landry Jones in round 3... meh.
One thing I think/ hope is that there will be an open, honest QB competition in the 2013 camp.
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