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      @vaportrail said:

      Alex Jones is an asshole.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        This one is much easier to tolerate. A well presented case, not two idiot blowhards screaming at each other.

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          That was actually informative. As such, I'm wondering why it's being posted on this forum.

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            That was actually informative. As such, I'm wondering why it's being posted on this forum.

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            @vaportrail said:

            That was actually informative. As such, I'm wondering why it's being posted on this forum.

            Welcome to my M.O.

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              And thanks.

              Alex Jones is a maniac, but he was trying to (I think) make the same point. - # of guns -> + violent crime.

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                Regarding the 50% drop in the crime rate, as cited by the FBI. There is a considerable correlation between Roe v Wade and the decline of crime ~15-25 years afterwards. The theory goes like this... Since the option of abortion was available, less people were raised in shitty homes in impoverished areas, thus you had less 15-25 year old males who were desperate.

                Here's the site of one of the guys who founded this hypothesis, along with some critiques of his work and his responses.

                http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/

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                  Regarding the 50% drop in the crime rate, as cited by the FBI. There is a considerable correlation between Roe v Wade and the decline of crime ~15-25 years afterwards. The theory goes like this... Since the option of abortion was available, less people were raised in shitty homes in impoverished areas, thus you had less 15-25 year old males who were desperate.

                  Here's the site of one of the guys who founded this hypothesis, along with some critiques of his work and his responses.

                  http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/

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                  @vaportrail said:

                  Regarding the 50% drop in the crime rate, as cited by the FBI. There is a considerable correlation between Roe v Wade and the decline of crime ~15-25 years afterwards. The theory goes like this... Since the option of abortion was available, less people were raised in shitty homes in impoverished areas, thus you had less 15-25 year old males who were desperate.

                  Here's the site of one of the guys who founded this hypothesis, along with some critiques of his work and his responses.

                  http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/

                  But the number of guns has been on a steady rise since roe v wade, yet violent crime (and even homicides involving guns) have decreased. 15-25 yrs post roe v wade puts us at 1988-1998. Crime was declining independent of that statistic. And before it. and after it. And guns are still increasing. Amazing.

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                    @vaportrail said:

                    Regarding the 50% drop in the crime rate, as cited by the FBI. There is a considerable correlation between Roe v Wade and the decline of crime ~15-25 years afterwards. The theory goes like this... Since the option of abortion was available, less people were raised in shitty homes in impoverished areas, thus you had less 15-25 year old males who were desperate.

                    Here's the site of one of the guys who founded this hypothesis, along with some critiques of his work and his responses.

                    http://www.freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/

                    But the number of guns has been on a steady rise since roe v wade, yet violent crime (and even homicides involving guns) have decreased. 15-25 yrs post roe v wade puts us at 1988-1998. Crime was declining independent of that statistic. And before it. and after it. And guns are still increasing. Amazing.

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                    Crime was declining independent of that statistic.

                    Is the statistic you're referring to the number of guns or roe v wade? If you're talking about the court case, I disagree, and there is strong statistical evidence to show otherwise. If you're talking about the number of guns, I can do you one better. That decline in crime also happened during the expiration of an assault weapons ban and the legalization of ccw.

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                      @legacy-fan said:

                      Crime was declining independent of that statistic.

                      Is the statistic you're referring to the number of guns or roe v wade? If you're talking about the court case, I disagree, and there is strong statistical evidence to show otherwise. If you're talking about the number of guns, I can do you one better. That decline in crime also happened during the expiration of an assault weapons ban and the legalization of ccw.

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                      @vaportrail said:

                      Is the statistic you're referring to the number of guns or roe v wade? If you're talking about the court case, I disagree, and there is strong statistical evidence to show otherwise. If you're talking about the number of guns, I can do you one better. That decline in crime also happened during the expiration of an assault weapons ban and the legalization of ccw.

                      Roe v wade.

                      Nothing is obviously truly independent, but that assumption can be made because crime was decreasing before during and after 1988-1998. But i agree that it contributed. so I dont get Jonathan Swifty, I'll refrain from suggesting who and in what areas of the the country should be *ahem* sterilized.

                      As to your other point: Agreed. There's also the story of kennesaw Georgia ( pop <20k) where gun ownership was mandated in 1982 (head of household with some exceptions). Violent crime dropped 50% year 1 and 50% year 2. They had 3 murders between 1982-1997 with only one involving a handgun.

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