Rob Chudzinski Officially New Hc Of Browns
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P. Schrager @PSchrags
I'm hearing from a very good source that Norv Turner is, in fact, coming with Chud to CLE.
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ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Panthers scored TDs on 25% of their drives w/ Rob Chudzinksi as off. coordinator during the last 2 seasons (4th-highest in NFL).
P. Schrager @PSchrags
I'm hearing from a very good source that Norv Turner is, in fact, coming with Chud to CLE.
Retweeted by Adam Caplan
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Panthers scored TDs on 25% of their drives w/ Rob Chudzinksi as off. coordinator during the last 2 seasons (4th-highest in NFL).
yeah, that couldn't possibly be due to the fact that Newton is their QB could it?
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
P. Schrager @PSchrags
I'm hearing from a very good source that Norv Turner is, in fact, coming with Chud to CLE.
Retweeted by Adam Caplan
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Panthers scored TDs on 25% of their drives w/ Rob Chudzinksi as off. coordinator during the last 2 seasons (4th-highest in NFL).
yeah, that couldn't possibly be due to the fact that Newton is their QB could it?
yeah, that couldn't possibly be due to the fact that Newton is their QB could it?
He turned our shit offense into a contender for a season, that's the bigger story.
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Sadly, you can talk all you want about what he did with Derek Anderson. Big whoop. The Carolina offense, which has more talent than ours, sucked balls this season. Guess who the OC was? Our new HC. Enjoy trying to turn Weeden into a Golden Turd.
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Rooster Dick would only be happy if Brady Queen was the QB, Coach, and GM of the Browns. For rooster dick, He's the only one good looking enough. Rooster Dick sure has a thing for QB's who can only throw 8 yards downfield.
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Interesting hire to say the least and if in fact Norv is coming as OC, that is a major coup. Among the things I find myself agreeing with Good Ghoulie on in this thread is that Norv is a first rate OC.
Maybe the most encouraging thing I see in Norv's coming is that a former boss of Chud's thinks Chud is someone he'd like to work for. Says a great deal about the character of both men.
---->>> Gip... How many times have a NFL HC and OC (or DC for that matter) flipped roles later on in their careers?
I have some reservations about a vertical passing game in Cleveland in December, but happy to save those for another day.
Now to the 3-4 thread...
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Sadly, you can talk all you want about what he did with Derek Anderson. Big whoop. The Carolina offense, which has more talent than ours, sucked balls this season. Guess who the OC was? Our new HC. Enjoy trying to turn Weeden into a Golden Turd.
Sadly, you can talk all you want about what he did with Derek Anderson. Big whoop. The Carolina offense, which has more talent than ours, sucked balls this season. Guess who the OC was? Our new HC. Enjoy trying to turn Weeden into a Golden Turd.
So getting 10 wins and a Pro Bowl nod for an inept, Retarded lumberjack for a QB doesn't mean anything. But going 7-9 with Cam Newton means he's an absolute failure.
By the way, the Carolina Panthers finished 12th this season in YPG, 18th in PPG, averaged 20 first downs a game and had a 3rd down percentage of nearly 50%.
The Browns, on the other hand, finished 25th in YPG, 24th in PPG, averaged 17 first downs a game and had a 3rd down percentage of 31%.
The Carolina offense was middle of the pack or better in every major statistical category and were head and shoulders better than Cleveland's offense.
It doesn't hurt to do a little research.
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Sadly, you can talk all you want about what he did with Derek Anderson. Big whoop. The Carolina offense, which has more talent than ours, sucked balls this season. Guess who the OC was? Our new HC. Enjoy trying to turn Weeden into a Golden Turd.
Sadly, you can talk all you want about what he did with Derek Anderson. Big whoop. The Carolina offense, which has more talent than ours, sucked balls this season. Guess who the OC was? Our new HC. Enjoy trying to turn Weeden into a Golden Turd.
Chud doesn't play defense and the majority of Carolinas problems were on defense. They failed to hold leads late in the game. The lost to Tampa on last play, lost to Atlanta late letting them drive like 60yds in 20 or so seconds after Cam led them to late lead. Let Chicago score 17 4th quarter points to beat them by 1 point. The reason the Panthers weren't in the playoffs wasn't because of their offense.
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come on man. i want to hear more about the rooster dick, or as most people call 'em...a cock a doodle doo..
i know if i was one of those old tired birds like diehardbrownsfan living in a shack in a potato field and that mutherfucker woke me up.....he wouldn't be doing it again tomorrow.
wouldn't even need a gun. just a big ass coffee cup and a piece of wire.
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Cabot says Jauron is possibly gone so there you have it.... sheesh
Seriously... the 3-4 didnt work for Crennel, he couldnt find the players in the draft... took years to build and still no success
continuity for this defense that is showing some real progress is important IMO - and keeping Jauron is the start
i agree that switching to the 3-4 is a bad idea. i don't really care one way or the other about Jauron. Our defense last year was weak and unimpressive.
The 3-4 only works when teams commit to it over the long term. Teams that flip flop back and forth tend to never be good at either.
i agree that switching to the 3-4 is a bad idea. i don't really care one way or the other about Jauron. Our defense last year was weak and unimpressive.
The 3-4 only works when teams commit to it over the long term. Teams that flip flop back and forth tend to never be good at either.
I agree. We were unimpressive on D.
As a general rule I do favor the 3-4. If for no other reason it puts a little more speed on the field, which in our case is a good thing since we are usually trying to chase down opposing players.
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---->>> Gip... How many times have a NFL HC and OC (or DC for that matter) flipped roles later on in their careers?
I don't have a clue. I doubt they keep statistics on that. It has probably happened any number of times however.
I mean, with Ray Rhodes/Dick Jauron/Brad Childress on the last Browns staff it is possible that Pat Shurmur worked for one of them at one time.
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One I can think if is the Rams Martz HC,Lovie Smith DC > Bears Smith HC,MArtz OC
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still don't know why we didn't look at billick. all these wonder boy coordinators and ex head coaches aren't wearing a ring like billick.
he must be on a 'black' list somewhere.
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still don't know why we didn't look at billick. all these wonder boy coordinators and ex head coaches aren't wearing a ring like billick.
he must be on a 'black' list somewhere.
still don't know why we didn't look at billick. all these wonder boy coordinators and ex head coaches aren't wearing a ring like billick.
he must be on a 'black' list somewhere.
LOL, how many Rings did Crennell collect before he became the Browns Coach? Gipper will tell you off the top of his head how many HCs have won SBs with more than one team (I can't) but IIRC it's one, or two at most.
Bill-dick's black listed because he was a pompous ass living on his reputation when the Ratbirds hired him. Pretty easy to look brilliant when you have Randy Moss and Chris Carter catching the rock. The only reason "Mr. Offensive Genius" won his SB is he lucked into one of the greatest defenses of all time, that happened to have one of the luckiest runs in history on their way to the Lombardi.
If Ozzie & Biscotti thought he had outlived his usefulness in B-more, why would you want their retread?
I haven't forgotten Cleveland wasn't good enough for him the first time around, either.
Haslam wanted a coach that was "all in". You couldn't find a guy who fits that description more than Chud. Billick's gone the way of Gruden and Mangini- nice cushy network job that pays well. Seems now he's got the "itch" to coach again, elsewhere fortunately.
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still don't know why we didn't look at billick. all these wonder boy coordinators and ex head coaches aren't wearing a ring like billick.
he must be on a 'black' list somewhere.
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Zero hoorta....its actually zero. Holmgren was the closest, and had that that distinction ripped from his hands. That's why he was so pissed about that game.
Now, it doesn't mean it'll never happen, but it hadsnt yet....which suggests hiring a retread, even a SB retread, is no more likely to get you one than there unproven coordinator route.
Lots of SB winning coaches out there that keep staying away....gruden, cowher, dungy, billick. Yeah..,its a wonder they haven't come back since they already know how easy it is to win the big one. Hmmm....
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still don't know why we didn't look at billick. all these wonder boy coordinators and ex head coaches aren't wearing a ring like billick.
he must be on a 'black' list somewhere.
LOL, how many Rings did Crennell collect before he became the Browns Coach? Gipper will tell you off the top of his head how many HCs have won SBs with more than one team (I can't) but IIRC it's one, or two at most.
Bill-dick's black listed because he was a pompous ass living on his reputation when the Ratbirds hired him. Pretty easy to look brilliant when you have Randy Moss and Chris Carter catching the rock. The only reason "Mr. Offensive Genius" won his SB is he lucked into one of the greatest defenses of all time, that happened to have one of the luckiest runs in history on their way to the Lombardi.
If Ozzie & Biscotti thought he had outlived his usefulness in B-more, why would you want their retread?
I haven't forgotten Cleveland wasn't good enough for him the first time around, either.
Haslam wanted a coach that was "all in". You couldn't find a guy who fits that description more than Chud. Billick's gone the way of Gruden and Mangini- nice cushy network job that pays well. Seems now he's got the "itch" to coach again, elsewhere fortunately.
LOL, how many Rings did Crennell collect before he became the Browns Coach? Gipper will tell you off the top of his head how many HCs have won SBs with more than one team (I can't) but IIRC it's one, or two at most.
Actually...the number is exactly zero. Only 3 coaches have taken 2 different teams to the SB: Shula: Colts/Dolphins, Parcells: Giants/Pats, Holmgren: Packers/Seahawks
However, Weeb Ewbank did win titles with 2 teams: 58/59 Colts and 68 Jets, and I believe Guy Chamberlain was coach of two different teams, including the Canton Bulldogs, back in the 20s.
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I cant believe some of you Browns fans are upset about this hire. Im not a Browns/Panthers fan so let me give you an unbiased opinion:
The BEST coaches in the world, at football and/or anything else make a plan/scheme that adheres to their players strengths, and does not try to force players to go with their own scheme. They adapt. Chudzinksi has shown in Carolina that not only did he adapt an offense purely for Cam Newton, but he made it simple enough that guy that apparently (from reports) does not have great football smarts.
People also forget that it was actually Carolina that started this Read/Option fad in the NFL thats taken the league by storm.
Cam Newton had a great rookie year AND had a GREAT sophmore year as well. Go look at his stats this year. He threw less int's, and threw for more TDs then his rookie year.
For people that think Carolina has talent, that makes me laugh. They had no run game excdept a handful of games where Deangelo Williams had a couple big runs, other than that their running backs are an absolute joke. Their best receiver is an old man who is 5'9" and to top it off, their offensive line was battered all year.
The defense started off slow but that defense did do much better halfway through the season. Carolina was actually a very good team this year, think they went 5-1 in the last 6 games.
Chud was a great hire, you guys really should be excited, he will make a plan to cater to Weeden/Trich/Gordons strengths.
In all honesty, I think he was a steal.
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I like Chud as a coach, but damn it I cant stand to see the word Chud. Lets call him Rob please!
I hope we bring in Greg Jennings at wr and Dom. Cromartie as a DB.
Also, I may be getting stationed back in Ohio, so I cant wait to go watch a home game again. Go Browns!!!
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I cant believe some of you Browns fans are upset about this hire. Im not a Browns/Panthers fan so let me give you an unbiased opinion:
The BEST coaches in the world, at football and/or anything else make a plan/scheme that adheres to their players strengths, and does not try to force players to go with their own scheme. They adapt. Chudzinksi has shown in Carolina that not only did he adapt an offense purely for Cam Newton, but he made it simple enough that guy that apparently (from reports) does not have great football smarts.
People also forget that it was actually Carolina that started this Read/Option fad in the NFL thats taken the league by storm.
Cam Newton had a great rookie year AND had a GREAT sophmore year as well. Go look at his stats this year. He threw less int's, and threw for more TDs then his rookie year.
For people that think Carolina has talent, that makes me laugh. They had no run game excdept a handful of games where Deangelo Williams had a couple big runs, other than that their running backs are an absolute joke. Their best receiver is an old man who is 5'9" and to top it off, their offensive line was battered all year.
The defense started off slow but that defense did do much better halfway through the season. Carolina was actually a very good team this year, think they went 5-1 in the last 6 games.
Chud was a great hire, you guys really should be excited, he will make a plan to cater to Weeden/Trich/Gordons strengths.
In all honesty, I think he was a steal.
I cant believe some of you Browns fans are upset about this hire. Im not a Browns/Panthers fan so let me give you an unbiased opinion:
The BEST coaches in the world, at football and/or anything else make a plan/scheme that adheres to their players strengths, and does not try to force players to go with their own scheme. They adapt. Chudzinksi has shown in Carolina that not only did he adapt an offense purely for Cam Newton, but he made it simple enough that guy that apparently (from reports) does not have great football smarts.
People also forget that it was actually Carolina that started this Read/Option fad in the NFL thats taken the league by storm.
Cam Newton had a great rookie year AND had a GREAT sophmore year as well. Go look at his stats this year. He threw less int's, and threw for more TDs then his rookie year.
For people that think Carolina has talent, that makes me laugh. They had no run game excdept a handful of games where Deangelo Williams had a couple big runs, other than that their running backs are an absolute joke. Their best receiver is an old man who is 5'9" and to top it off, their offensive line was battered all year.
The defense started off slow but that defense did do much better halfway through the season. Carolina was actually a very good team this year, think they went 5-1 in the last 6 games.
Chud was a great hire, you guys really should be excited, he will make a plan to cater to Weeden/Trich/Gordons strengths.
In all honesty, I think he was a steal.
don't get me wrong dude. i never said i didn't like the hire. it just came off as a fast pull of the trigger.
first it was "we're going to evaluate and come up with a list of candidates all of which we'll talk to, blah, blah, blah...." then obviously the first guy on the list: "OMG chip kelly! chip kelly!" then no chip kelly. then i don't even know if they talked to anyone else in the NFL. i know trestman was mentioned but he's CFL. then a day later we hire chudz.
they sure didn't interview everyone like they said they would and all i said is why is noone looking at billick. hell i know he's a pompous ass but so is harbaugh, so was bobby knight and some of the greatest minds are just hard to deal with.
chudz is younger and i agree will not gut a system or roster (turner might want to though) but i would think it's easier for someone who actually has done something to do it again than someone with no knowledge of it trying to do it for the first time.
all i'm saying. sure a lot of these guys don't want to coach anymore (cowher gruden etc.) because they know how hard it is. but if any of those guys said hey i'm willing to give it a shot they'd be first on your list.
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I cant believe some of you Browns fans are upset about this hire. Im not a Browns/Panthers fan so let me give you an unbiased opinion:
The BEST coaches in the world, at football and/or anything else make a plan/scheme that adheres to their players strengths, and does not try to force players to go with their own scheme. They adapt. Chudzinksi has shown in Carolina that not only did he adapt an offense purely for Cam Newton, but he made it simple enough that guy that apparently (from reports) does not have great football smarts.
People also forget that it was actually Carolina that started this Read/Option fad in the NFL thats taken the league by storm.
Cam Newton had a great rookie year AND had a GREAT sophmore year as well. Go look at his stats this year. He threw less int's, and threw for more TDs then his rookie year.
For people that think Carolina has talent, that makes me laugh. They had no run game excdept a handful of games where Deangelo Williams had a couple big runs, other than that their running backs are an absolute joke. Their best receiver is an old man who is 5'9" and to top it off, their offensive line was battered all year.
The defense started off slow but that defense did do much better halfway through the season. Carolina was actually a very good team this year, think they went 5-1 in the last 6 games.
Chud was a great hire, you guys really should be excited, he will make a plan to cater to Weeden/Trich/Gordons strengths.
In all honesty, I think he was a steal.
don't get me wrong dude. i never said i didn't like the hire. it just came off as a fast pull of the trigger.
first it was "we're going to evaluate and come up with a list of candidates all of which we'll talk to, blah, blah, blah...." then obviously the first guy on the list: "OMG chip kelly! chip kelly!" then no chip kelly. then i don't even know if they talked to anyone else in the NFL. i know trestman was mentioned but he's CFL. then a day later we hire chudz.
they sure didn't interview everyone like they said they would and all i said is why is noone looking at billick. hell i know he's a pompous ass but so is harbaugh, so was bobby knight and some of the greatest minds are just hard to deal with.
chudz is younger and i agree will not gut a system or roster (turner might want to though) but i would think it's easier for someone who actually has done something to do it again than someone with no knowledge of it trying to do it for the first time.
all i'm saying. sure a lot of these guys don't want to coach anymore (cowher gruden etc.) because they know how hard it is. but if any of those guys said hey i'm willing to give it a shot they'd be first on your list.
don't get me wrong dude. i never said i didn't like the hire. it just came off as a fast pull of the trigger.
first it was "we're going to evaluate and come up with a list of candidates all of which we'll talk to, blah, blah, blah...." then obviously the first guy on the list: "OMG chip kelly! chip kelly!" then no chip kelly. then i don't even know if they talked to anyone else in the NFL. i know trestman was mentioned but he's CFL. then a day later we hire chudz.
they sure didn't interview everyone like they said they would and all i said is why is noone looking at billick. hell i know he's a pompous ass but so is harbaugh, so was bobby knight and some of the greatest minds are just hard to deal with.
chudz is younger and i agree will not gut a system or roster (turner might want to though) but i would think it's easier for someone who actually has done something to do it again than someone with no knowledge of it trying to do it for the first time.
all i'm saying. sure a lot of these guys don't want to coach anymore (cowher gruden etc.) because they know how hard it is. but if any of those guys said hey i'm willing to give it a shot they'd be first on your list.
Cowher, Gruden, etc. are statistically just as likely to win a Super Bowl with Cleveland as Chud is.
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