Reducing Gun Violence
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Just saw these. Have to say I'm surprised/impressed. He seems to get it. (Background, mental health)
Good for him.
He's got stiffer penalties for people whose guns fall into the wrong hands, cops in schools, reversed the ban on studying gun safety, magazine size limited to 10 bullets. It's not bad. Lot of the stuff we were talking about.
The executive orders are pretty uncontroversial. Mostly housekeeping stuff.
He's got stiffer penalties for people whose guns fall into the wrong hands, cops in schools, reversed the ban on studying gun safety, magazine size limited to 10 bullets. It's not bad. Lot of the stuff we were talking about.
The executive orders are pretty uncontroversial. Mostly housekeeping stuff.
Shit, lets do away with the requirement for a term limit. Obama 2016!
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"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
...Anyone want to guess who said that?
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Not a bad quote. Trouble is, the left will redefine terms at every turn, just like you do, heckbunker, in every single argument with anybody.
Obamao coopted some of our ideas after all.
But, when this school violence happens again, then what?
The rest of us know, despite you being drenched in Egypt.
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Scalia?
WSS
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"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
...Anyone want to guess who said that?
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
...Anyone want to guess who said that?
please be reagan please be reagan please be reagan
aw. not even close.
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Here's some Reagan:
May 3, 1994
To Members of the U.S. House of Representatives:
We are writing to urge your support for a ban on the domestic manufacture of military-style assault weapons. This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety. Although assualt weapons account for less than 1% of the guns in circulation, they account for nearly 10% of the guns traced to crime.
Every major law enforcement organization in America and dozens of leading labor, medical, religious, civil rights and civic groups support such a ban. Most importantly, poll after poll shows that the American public overwhelmingly support a ban on assault weapons. A 1993 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll found that 77% of Americans support a ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of semi-automatic assault guns, such as the AK-47.
The 1989 import ban resulted in an impressive 40% drop in imported assault weapons traced to crime between 1989 and 1991, but the killing continues. Last year, a killer armed with two TEC9s killed eight people at a San Francisco law firm and wounded several others. During the past five years, more than 40 law enforcement officers have been killed or wounded in the line of duty by an assault weapon.
While we recognize that assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals. We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons.
Sincerely,
Gerald R. Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
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Yeah, run in the Republican primaries today having signed a gun control letter with Jimmy Carter. See how far you get.
More:
While still president in 1986, Reagan signed into law the Firearm Owners Protection Act, which was hailed by gun rights advocates because it included numerous protections for gun owners. However, it also banned ownership of any fully automatic rifles that were not already registered on the day the law was signed.
Then, in 1991, four years after the controversial Brady Bill was introduced in Congress and with passage again in doubt, Reagan penned an op-ed in The New York Times titled "Why I'm for the Brady Bill." In it, he expressed support for a seven-day waiting period before a purchaser could take possession of a handgun, an even more stringent restriction than the five day cooling-off period that was included in the final legislation, and less stringent than the 15-day cooling-off period he signed into law as governor of California. Reagan stated that prohibitions on sales to felons, drug addicts and the mentally ill had "no enforcement mechanism" and that "a uniform standard across the country" was necessary.
Regarding handguns, Reagan stated, "This level of violence must be stopped … If the passage of the Brady bill were to result in a reduction of only 10 or 15 percent of those numbers (and it could be a good deal greater), it would be well worth making it the law of the land."
Finally, in 1994, Reagan successfully threw his support behind the Assault Weapons Ban in a joint letter to the Boston Globe, saying, "As a longtime gun owner and supporter of the right to bear arms … I am convinced that the limitations imposed in this bill are absolutely necessary."
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Remember when Ice Cube, Ice T, & Dr. Dre used to be scary? Early 90's. Wanna guess how many references of using "AK's , & other Assault Weapons" they made in their lyrics?
Care to guess what a letter from 3 stodgy old white guys was really targeting in 1994? (Psssst: it wasn't the guns)
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Remember when Ice Cube, Ice T, & Dr. Dre used to be scary? Early 90's. Wanna guess how many references of using "AK's , & other Assault Weapons" they made in their lyrics?
Care to guess what a letter from 3 stodgy old white guys was really targeting in 1994? (Psssst: it wasn't the guns)
Remember when Ice Cube, Ice T, & Dr. Dre used to be scary? Early 90's. Wanna guess how many references of using "AK's , & other Assault Weapons" they made in their lyrics?
Care to guess what a letter from 3 stodgy old white guys was really targeting in 1994? (Psssst: it wasn't the guns)
Was he targeting them in the 80s too? N.w.a. is classic but not that classic.
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Let's not forget Regan was shot by a lunatic. He might have had some personal feelings on it.
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No doubt he had a personal interest.
Still, look at the wording of the letter (AK, not AR) and recall the lyrics and the timeframe.
Not purely coincidental, IMO.
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Here's some data for those of you who might doubt the Republicans' ideological drift to the right.
"We have previously written about asymmetric polarization, arguing that the primary driver of contemporary partisan polarization has been the steady movement of congressional Republicans to the right. This trend appears to have continued through the 112th congress. House Republicans – despite a large majority earned in the 2010 midterm elections – have continued their rightward drift, adding more conservative members than moderate members. Senate Republicans also became a more conservative group in the 112th Congress, while Senate Democrats remained mostly ideologically static."
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Also, the NRA is starting to look like Obama's best ally here. They're really turning people off. First it was that LaPierre speech, and now this ad, which, as it turns out, is totally false. Obama's kids' school does not have armed guards, and never has.
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asshole. This marxist pig "president" is causing every gun store in our country to have it's best years ever.
A quarter of a million folks joined the NRA. Ammo and guns are flying off the shelves. Outside of your stupid ass
political conjecturing, several of us HAVE BEEN TO GUN STORES AND GUN SHOWS. You talk out of your butt in
most every conversation. On the new demand, an AR-15, which used to sell for about $600 bucks - now sells
for 1200 and they are hard to find. Tens of thousands have flocked to gun shows in a few states. Obamao has
now overplayed his hand. He is now going to ungalvanize the democrats in Congress over this whole bun control "foot in the door".
Sheriffs around the country are refusing to enforce any crap from Obamao that defies our Consitution. Flip that, heckbunker.
Last time we bought ammo, it was amazing to see people buying guns and ammo right and left. I can't wait to go to a gun show
soon and watch the action. I need more clips before Obamao and co go on to their next marxist anti gun ownership move.
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asshole. This marxist pig "president" is causing every gun store in our country to have it's best years ever.
A quarter of a million folks joined the NRA. Ammo and guns are flying off the shelves. Outside of your stupid ass
political conjecturing, several of us HAVE BEEN TO GUN STORES AND GUN SHOWS. You talk out of your butt in
most every conversation. On the new demand, an AR-15, which used to sell for about $600 bucks - now sells
for 1200 and they are hard to find. Tens of thousands have flocked to gun shows in a few states. Obamao has
now overplayed his hand. He is now going to ungalvanize the democrats in Congress over this whole bun control "foot in the door".
Sheriffs around the country are refusing to enforce any crap from Obamao that defies our Consitution. Flip that, heckbunker.
Last time we bought ammo, it was amazing to see people buying guns and ammo right and left. I can't wait to go to a gun show
soon and watch the action. I need more clips before Obamao and co go on to their next marxist anti gun ownership move.
asshole. This marxist pig "president" is causing every gun store in our country to have it's best years ever.
A quarter of a million folks joined the NRA. Ammo and guns are flying off the shelves. Outside of your stupid ass
political conjecturing, several of us HAVE BEEN TO GUN STORES AND GUN SHOWS. You talk out of your butt in
most every conversation. On the new demand, an AR-15, which used to sell for about $600 bucks - now sells
for 1200 and they are hard to find. Tens of thousands have flocked to gun shows in a few states. Obamao has
now overplayed his hand. He is now going to ungalvanize the democrats in Congress over this whole bun control "foot in the door".
Sheriffs around the country are refusing to enforce any crap from Obamao that defies our Consitution. Flip that, heckbunker.
Last time we bought ammo, it was amazing to see people buying guns and ammo right and left. I can't wait to go to a gun show
soon and watch the action. I need more clips before Obamao and co go on to their next marxist anti gun ownership move.
Listen to yourself. You sound like a crazy person.
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You're just picking up on this now?
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Here's some data for those of you who might doubt the Republicans' ideological drift to the right.
"We have previously written about asymmetric polarization, arguing that the primary driver of contemporary partisan polarization has been the steady movement of congressional Republicans to the right. This trend appears to have continued through the 112th congress. House Republicans – despite a large majority earned in the 2010 midterm elections – have continued their rightward drift, adding more conservative members than moderate members. Senate Republicans also became a more conservative group in the 112th Congress, while Senate Democrats remained mostly ideologically static."
Here's some data for those of you who might doubt the Republicans' ideological drift to the right.
"We have previously written about asymmetric polarization, arguing that the primary driver of contemporary partisan polarization has been the steady movement of congressional Republicans to the right. This trend appears to have continued through the 112th congress. House Republicans – despite a large majority earned in the 2010 midterm elections – have continued their rightward drift, adding more conservative members than moderate members. Senate Republicans also became a more conservative group in the 112th Congress, while Senate Democrats remained mostly ideologically static."
truth alert... repubs moving to the right is ok... nothing wrong with it!
Dems standing pat? cmon... "ideologically static" ? static brainwaves more like it....
more unnecessary blame game stuff..... and why slip this garbage in an otherwise stellar post and responses?
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Here's some data for those of you who might doubt the Republicans' ideological drift to the right.
"We have previously written about asymmetric polarization, arguing that the primary driver of contemporary partisan polarization has been the steady movement of congressional Republicans to the right. This trend appears to have continued through the 112th congress. House Republicans – despite a large majority earned in the 2010 midterm elections – have continued their rightward drift, adding more conservative members than moderate members. Senate Republicans also became a more conservative group in the 112th Congress, while Senate Democrats remained mostly ideologically static."
truth alert... repubs moving to the right is ok... nothing wrong with it!
Dems standing pat? cmon... "ideologically static" ? static brainwaves more like it....
more unnecessary blame game stuff..... and why slip this garbage in an otherwise stellar post and responses?
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truth alert... repubs moving to the right is ok... nothing wrong with it!
Dems standing pat? cmon... "ideologically static" ? static brainwaves more like it....
more unnecessary blame game stuff..... and why slip this garbage in an otherwise stellar post and responses?
Actually, there is something wrong with it because it's those fringe nuts that are bringing their entire party down. You can't nominate a presidential candidate that stands a good chance in the general election because of the religious right's insistence on legislating the morality of social issues.
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The man proves my point.
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