Joe Flacco
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Also something that has failed to be mentioned is Flacco doesn't audible, read defenses and change protections the way Brady and Manning do. No one does for that matter. Brady and Manning don't need an OC Flacco does. I 'm sorry but Flacco is no where near those two especially Tom Brady and his multiple SB rings.
Also something that has failed to be mentioned is Flacco doesn't audible, read defenses and change protections the way Brady and Manning do. No one does for that matter. Brady and Manning don't need an OC Flacco does. I 'm sorry but Flacco is no where near those two especially Tom Brady and his multiple SB rings.
In the Superbowl the Rats had a 3rd and 1? Flacco audibled out of a run to a pass and completed it to Bolden for a big gain, gutsy move.
I don't think anyone is arguing that Flacco's total collection of work is greater than that of Manning or Brady as a whole, that'd be silly.
But as it stands right now Flacco had a greater post season, one of the greatest of all time for that matter - and beat both Manning and Brady in the process.
So, that's got to count for something.
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Sometimes I don't get what some people base their rankings off of. If you're going off sheer talent, then it's a no brainer that guys like Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees etc are above the guy. But for me, it's all about winning when the games matter the most i.e. playoffs and 4th quarter. Flacco was genuinely flawless in the playoffs this year and won the head to head against Manning and Brady to do it. The guy has more road playoff wins than any other QB in the history of the NFL, and now has a ring.
Take that against Peyton Manning. He does have a ring but is 9-11 in the playoffs and consistently has had home field advantage in the playoffs. His QB ratings are up and down to say the least in the playoffs and has made crucial mistakes in the clutch (throwing across his body for an INT this year). So in actuality, who is better? You can bitch and moan to me all you but winning is what matters, and Flacco is officially 9-4 in the ones that matter most.
If it had been Flacco going to Denver this year instead of Manning...do you really think he leads them to the best record in the AFC? AFC West champions? Playoffs?
No doubt he had a great run...But does he really raise the level of the players around him?Or do they raise his level of his play?
If it had been Flacco going to Denver this year instead of Manning...do you really think he leads them to the best record in the AFC? AFC West champions? Playoffs?
No doubt he had a great run...But does he really raise the level of the players around him?Or do they raise his level of his play?
Well honestly it's hard to truly compare apples to apples. A fool would say talent wise Flacco is better than Manning. Flacco might not have lead Denver to the best record in the AFC. But as I said before, no one remembers who had the best record of the regular season. Peyton Manning has consistently choked in the playoffs and his record shows that.
In regards to the level of talent around his team, Flacco was making throws all post season that were in a word perfect. That third and inches throw in the Super Bowl was absolutely a thing of beauty. He hit guys in the seam routes (mainly Boldin) that were simply not defensible. Look, I'm not here to argue against the fact Manning is a legendary QB in the league. I'm just trying to get the point across that history doesn't remember the regular season, it remembers playoffs. As it stands now, Flacco might be on pace to double or triple the rings Manning has while outperforming him in the playoffs. Which is better, having a HOF QB with inconsistent playoff results or a "above average" QB who gets you there and wins?
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Still Joe Flacco will get a huge deal coming to him!
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Still Joe Flacco will get a huge deal coming to him!
Anyone wana bet he wont live up to that deal...
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Anyone wana bet he wont live up to that deal...
You never take take a bet on a QB who in My mind is nowhere near being Elite...Hell Trent Dildo wasnt Elite and still got a ring....so yes,Im saying Flacco needs to do more in order for Me to say he's even remotely Elite.
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In this league, having a top ten QB is all but essential to having a playoff team. Joe Flacco is a top ten QB, and the Ravens will not be able to sign one better. They will have to pay the man, and hope that he does live up to it. He will be a free agent, so they will have to pay him Elite money. That hit to cap space is a great thing for us
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If it had been Flacco going to Denver this year instead of Manning...do you really think he leads them to the best record in the AFC? AFC West champions? Playoffs?
No doubt he had a great run...But does he really raise the level of the players around him?Or do they raise his level of his play?
Well honestly it's hard to truly compare apples to apples. A fool would say talent wise Flacco is better than Manning. Flacco might not have lead Denver to the best record in the AFC. But as I said before, no one remembers who had the best record of the regular season. Peyton Manning has consistently choked in the playoffs and his record shows that.
In regards to the level of talent around his team, Flacco was making throws all post season that were in a word perfect. That third and inches throw in the Super Bowl was absolutely a thing of beauty. He hit guys in the seam routes (mainly Boldin) that were simply not defensible. Look, I'm not here to argue against the fact Manning is a legendary QB in the league. I'm just trying to get the point across that history doesn't remember the regular season, it remembers playoffs. As it stands now, Flacco might be on pace to double or triple the rings Manning has while outperforming him in the playoffs. Which is better, having a HOF QB with inconsistent playoff results or a "above average" QB who gets you there and wins?
Well honestly it's hard to truly compare apples to apples. A fool would say talent wise Flacco is better than Manning. Flacco might not have lead Denver to the best record in the AFC. But as I said before, no one remembers who had the best record of the regular season. Peyton Manning has consistently choked in the playoffs and his record shows that.
In regards to the level of talent around his team, Flacco was making throws all post season that were in a word perfect. That third and inches throw in the Super Bowl was absolutely a thing of beauty. He hit guys in the seam routes (mainly Boldin) that were simply not defensible. Look, I'm not here to argue against the fact Manning is a legendary QB in the league. I'm just trying to get the point across that history doesn't remember the regular season, it remembers playoffs. As it stands now, Flacco might be on pace to double or triple the rings Manning has while outperforming him in the playoffs. Which is better, having a HOF QB with inconsistent playoff results or a "above average" QB who gets you there and wins?
The problem is that even when a QB gets rings, sometimes he does not get credit. Bart Starr has 5 rings....and though that is the most in history behind only Otto Graham, very few ever include him in their list of all time greatest QBs. Marino who has none gets in there. Favre and Manning have one each and they are often named. Jim Plunkett has two rings and never gets any consideration for the HOF.
So, I don't know, at this point I would not put Flacco on a par even with BR...who has 2 rings and played for another.
So, just having a single successful playoff season doesn't get you into the photograph of best QBs.
For all we know Flacco may end up in Trent Dilfer/Mark Rypien/Brad Johnson country.
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Who is the QB for the browns?? If Flacco were to have a shot at other teams snagging him ( which wont happen), He would get offers from over half the teams in the NFL.
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Who is the QB for the browns?? If Flacco were to have a shot at other teams snagging him ( which wont happen), He would get offers from over half the teams in the NFL.
Who is the QB for the browns?? If Flacco were to have a shot at other teams snagging him ( which wont happen), He would get offers from over half the teams in the NFL.
Yeah sure because he just won the superbowl. The same could be said for any free agent quarterback that just won the SB.
Why not give us a clue on how hard he is going to hit an already cash strapped team...16 maybe 18million/ year.
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Who is the QB for the browns?? If Flacco were to have a shot at other teams snagging him ( which wont happen), He would get offers from over half the teams in the NFL.
Yeah sure because he just won the superbowl. The same could be said for any free agent quarterback that just won the SB.
Why not give us a clue on how hard he is going to hit an already cash strapped team...16 maybe 18million/ year.
Yeah sure because he just won the superbowl. The same could be said for any free agent quarterback that just won the SB.
Why not give us a clue on how hard he is going to hit an already cash strapped team...16 maybe 18million/ year.
In CAP cost between 13-15 Mil a year. If they sign him. 20 Mil if the exclusive tag is slapped on and not signed
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Yeah sure because he just won the superbowl. The same could be said for any free agent quarterback that just won the SB.
Why not give us a clue on how hard he is going to hit an already cash strapped team...16 maybe 18million/ year.
In CAP cost between 13-15 Mil a year. If they sign him. 20 Mil if the exclusive tag is slapped on and not signed
In CAP cost between 13-15 Mil a year. If they sign him. 20 Mil if the exclusive tag is slapped on and not signed
Yeah if your lucky, let us know what our assholes taste like next year.
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In CAP cost between 13-15 Mil a year. If they sign him. 20 Mil if the exclusive tag is slapped on and not signed
Yeah if your lucky, let us know what our assholes taste like next year.
Yeah if your lucky, let us know what our assholes taste like next year.
The curse of Art Modell not getting into the Hall of Fame will continue for the Factory Of Sadness until he does.
The change that the browns finish in front of the Ravens and Cinci may be a weeee bit of a stretch. You might be able to beat the steelers out for last place. But I am sure that will be a dawgfight.
The browns need to get their collective heads out of their asses to allow anyone to taste it.
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The curse of Modell. Shut the fuck up
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Yeah if your lucky, let us know what our assholes taste like next year.
The curse of Art Modell not getting into the Hall of Fame will continue for the Factory Of Sadness until he does.
The change that the browns finish in front of the Ravens and Cinci may be a weeee bit of a stretch. You might be able to beat the steelers out for last place. But I am sure that will be a dawgfight.
The browns need to get their collective heads out of their asses to allow anyone to taste it.
The curse of Art Modell not getting into the Hall of Fame will continue for the Factory Of Sadness until he does.
Then the World will end before either happens....as Modell will never get in...nor has he really deserved to get in...certainly not over many, many other contributors.
The change that the browns finish in front of the Ravens and Cinci may be a weeee bit of a stretch. You might be able to beat the steelers out for last place. But I am sure that will be a dawgfight.
Maybe....or maybe it will be the Ravens as well fighting for last. Face it, the Ravens seem like they may suffer many personnell losses. Lewis for sure. Reed, maybe. Flacco, maybe. Kruger, maybe. Ellerbe, maybe. Who else?
They looked like shite going into the playoffs, but got hot on emotion....and had a lot of luck, obviously. More than likely, going into next year, they will be more like the team that was on the field at the end of the regular season than the one we saw in the playoffs.
The browns need to get their collective heads out of their asses to allow anyone to taste it.
Glad to know though, that you are first in line when that happens.
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