Browns Will Entertain Trade Offers
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Soon after the Browns named Rob Chudzinski as the teams new head-coach, it was reported that he and Colt McCoy had a closed-door meeting at the teams facility in Berea. Yes McCoy and Chud sat down and had a talk. Reports have swirled since Jimmy Haslam III took ownership of the team that he liked Colt McCoy. The former team president Mike Holmgren always said he liked Colt McCoy too. Liking a player and giving him the starting quarterback position doesn’t seem to go hand in hand in Cleveland.
Many believe is was Shurmur’s dislike of McCoy that got him side-lined last season. The team said there was going to be an honest quarterback competition to name the teams starter in 2012, but if you saw McCoy’s interview on the news, you would know the team never really had any competition, they handed the starting role to Weeden and McCoy was pissed about it. This season the team has a different leadership in place. The fans have become completely confused about how good Brandon Weeden really is.
The facts are the facts and the facts point to the fact that Weeden didn’t out play McCoy in the 2012 season. In 2011, McCoy threw 14 touchdowns for the Browns and he did it in only 13 games played. Weeden threw 14 touchdowns in 15 games in 2012. It took Weeden 2 more games to match the touchdown’s McCoy threw in 2011 with less of a team around him. Weeden threw 17 interceptions in those 15 games. McCoy only threw 11 in the 13 games he played in 2011.
Weeden’s quarterback rating was lower than that of McCoy’s in the 2011 season. Weeden had a rating of 72.6 last season while McCoy ad a rating of 85.2 in 2012, 74.6 in 2011 and 74.5 in 2010. Never has Colt McCoy had a lower Q.B. rating than Brandon Weeden. Now there are a lot of fans saying things like; The Browns scored more points in 2012 than they did in 2011. Sure they did, but they only had one more win and that sucks. There were better players on the 2012 roster than McCoy had to work with in 2011 and the results still sucked.
You can ignore all the numbers you want when it comes to the 2 Cleveland quarterbacks. The thing people who really understand the game of football cannot ignore is football mentality. Brandon Weeden doesn’t have the same football mentality that Colt McCoy has. McCoy understand the defense better than Weeden does and we heard from the Browns number one draft pick in 2012 (3rd Overall) stating that Weeden doesn’t read the defense properly.
If anyone thinks that Colt McCoy is just going to roll over and die this training camp, you are mistaken. If the Brown really have a quarterback competition this summer, you better expect McCoy to come out swinging. He isn’t going down with out a fight and I think Chud and McCoy both understand each other. It would have been great to be a fly on the wall during the meeting behind closed doors the 2 men had……
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McCoy probably won't even be a Brown this year.
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The meeting went "you're gone. You know it, I know it. Tell me where you want to go and I'll see if I can make it happen."
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The meeting went "you're gone. You know it, I know it. Tell me where you want to go and I'll see if I can make it happen."
The meeting went "you're gone. You know it, I know it. Tell me where you want to go and I'll see if I can make it happen."
Correction: The meeting went- "Colt, we're really sorry about how the last coach treated you. We know all about you and your budding development, all we can ask is for you to come out in training camp and give us your all, and in return we'll give you an honest chance at regaining your position... since Weeden was obviously a reach from the last regime. Boy!, they really wiffed on that old man, huh?"
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And then the training camp battle goes like this.
McCoy comes out and dunks it down to Trent Richardson's feet. Weeden throws the ball down the field once and wins the starting job.
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And then the training camp battle goes like this.
McCoy comes out and dunks it down to Trent Richardson's feet. Weeden throws the ball down the field once and wins the starting job.
And then the training camp battle goes like this.
McCoy comes out and dunks it down to Trent Richardson's feet. Weeden throws the ball down the field once and wins the starting job.
Actually, Colt comes out and heaves a 30 yard pass to Little on the right sideline, impressing the coaching staff. He looks at Weeden and says "Hows that for arm strength?"
Weeden trots onto the field, picks Colt up and throws him to Green Bay, where he lands as the backup QB.
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And then the training camp battle goes like this.
McCoy comes out and dunks it down to Trent Richardson's feet. Weeden throws the ball down the field once and wins the starting job.
Actually, Colt comes out and heaves a 30 yard pass to Little on the right sideline, impressing the coaching staff. He looks at Weeden and says "Hows that for arm strength?"
Weeden trots onto the field, picks Colt up and throws him to Green Bay, where he lands as the backup QB.
Actually, Colt comes out and heaves a 30 yard pass to Little on the right sideline, impressing the coaching staff. He looks at Weeden and says "Hows that for arm strength?"
Weeden trots onto the field, picks Colt up and throws him to Green Bay, where he lands as the backup QB.
Setting the stage for none other but...
Enter the fucking dragon.
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Browns have been entertaining trade offers for McCoy since 2 years ago, and have received exactly zero offers.
I hope absolutely nothing is done this offseason -- because the available QB talent is simply not there to merit the resources. Moore and Manuel simply aren't upgrades -- keep talking them up as much as anyone wants, but consistency is absolutely nonexistant.
Next year, however, four QB's will go in the top ten picks : Bridgewater, Manziel, Boyd, and David Fales from San Jose State.
The point is NOT that I like our current roster. The point is that the Browns have only a set amount of resources, and I want the Browns to pursue players that will give the greatest improvements in [ (Dollars spent) / (INCREASE in performance achieved from our current roster) ]
If we get the BEST available FA LB and DB, we'll have a much better team in 2012 than if we flop QB's and keep the same LB/DB. We have the cap space today to sign Paul Kruger, Phillip Wheeler, Dashon Goldson [FS], and Keenan Lewis.
Also -- Hey, Browns front office: Stop starting undrafted rookie FA's at free safety. No.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Browns have been entertaining trade offers for McCoy since 2 years ago, and have received exactly zero offers.
I hope absolutely nothing is done this offseason -- because the available QB talent is simply not there to merit the resources. Moore and Manuel simply aren't upgrades -- keep talking them up as much as anyone wants, but consistency is absolutely nonexistant.
Next year, however, four QB's will go in the top ten picks : Bridgewater, Manziel, Boyd, and David Fales from San Jose State.
The point is NOT that I like our current roster. The point is that the Browns have only a set amount of resources, and I want the Browns to pursue players that will give the greatest improvements in [ (Dollars spent) / (INCREASE in performance achieved from our current roster) ]
If we get the BEST available FA LB and DB, we'll have a much better team in 2012 than if we flop QB's and keep the same LB/DB. We have the cap space today to sign Paul Kruger, Phillip Wheeler, Dashon Goldson [FS], and Keenan Lewis.
Also -- Hey, Browns front office: Stop starting undrafted rookie FA's at free safety. No.
Browns have been entertaining trade offers for McCoy since 2 years ago, and have received exactly zero offers.
I hope absolutely nothing is done this offseason -- because the available QB talent is simply not there to merit the resources. Moore and Manuel simply aren't upgrades -- keep talking them up as much as anyone wants, but consistency is absolutely nonexistant.
Next year, however, four QB's will go in the top ten picks : Bridgewater, Manziel, Boyd, and David Fales from San Jose State.
The point is NOT that I like our current roster. The point is that the Browns have only a set amount of resources, and I want the Browns to pursue players that will give the greatest improvements in [ (Dollars spent) / (INCREASE in performance achieved from our current roster) ]
If we get the BEST available FA LB and DB, we'll have a much better team in 2012 than if we flop QB's and keep the same LB/DB. We have the cap space today to sign Paul Kruger, Phillip Wheeler, Dashon Goldson [FS], and Keenan Lewis.
Also -- Hey, Browns front office: Stop starting undrafted rookie FA's at free safety. No.
Manuel was suggested as a project QB, not as a replacement starter for what we have on the roster.
I fully expect Weeden to be the starter this season, all season. No DA, no Moore. It will be Weeden.
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Browns have been entertaining trade offers for McCoy since 2 years ago, and have received exactly zero offers.
I hope absolutely nothing is done this offseason -- because the available QB talent is simply not there to merit the resources. Moore and Manuel simply aren't upgrades -- keep talking them up as much as anyone wants, but consistency is absolutely nonexistant.
Next year, however, four QB's will go in the top ten picks : Bridgewater, Manziel, Boyd, and David Fales from San Jose State.
The point is NOT that I like our current roster. The point is that the Browns have only a set amount of resources, and I want the Browns to pursue players that will give the greatest improvements in [ (Dollars spent) / (INCREASE in performance achieved from our current roster) ]
If we get the BEST available FA LB and DB, we'll have a much better team in 2012 than if we flop QB's and keep the same LB/DB. We have the cap space today to sign Paul Kruger, Phillip Wheeler, Dashon Goldson [FS], and Keenan Lewis.
Also -- Hey, Browns front office: Stop starting undrafted rookie FA's at free safety. No.
Browns have been entertaining trade offers for McCoy since 2 years ago, and have received exactly zero offers.
I hope absolutely nothing is done this offseason -- because the available QB talent is simply not there to merit the resources. Moore and Manuel simply aren't upgrades -- keep talking them up as much as anyone wants, but consistency is absolutely nonexistant.
Next year, however, four QB's will go in the top ten picks : Bridgewater, Manziel, Boyd, and David Fales from San Jose State.
The point is NOT that I like our current roster. The point is that the Browns have only a set amount of resources, and I want the Browns to pursue players that will give the greatest improvements in [ (Dollars spent) / (INCREASE in performance achieved from our current roster) ]
If we get the BEST available FA LB and DB, we'll have a much better team in 2012 than if we flop QB's and keep the same LB/DB. We have the cap space today to sign Paul Kruger, Phillip Wheeler, Dashon Goldson [FS], and Keenan Lewis.
Also -- Hey, Browns front office: Stop starting undrafted rookie FA's at free safety. No.
^agree 100%.
also i've seen mentioned a couple times here and in other threads that colt will wind up being the backup in green bay. why would they want mccoy when their offense right now is predicated on the vertical passing game and as we know mccoy doesn't possess those skills?
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Also -- Hey, Browns front office: Stop starting undrafted rookie FA's at free safety. No.
What the Fuck? T. Gipson is Hall of Fame caliber....for his name if nothing else.
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Browns have been entertaining trade offers for McCoy since 2 years ago, and have received exactly zero offers.
I hope absolutely nothing is done this offseason -- because the available QB talent is simply not there to merit the resources. Moore and Manuel simply aren't upgrades -- keep talking them up as much as anyone wants, but consistency is absolutely nonexistant.
Next year, however, four QB's will go in the top ten picks : Bridgewater, Manziel, Boyd, and David Fales from San Jose State.
The point is NOT that I like our current roster. The point is that the Browns have only a set amount of resources, and I want the Browns to pursue players that will give the greatest improvements in [ (Dollars spent) / (INCREASE in performance achieved from our current roster) ]
If we get the BEST available FA LB and DB, we'll have a much better team in 2012 than if we flop QB's and keep the same LB/DB. We have the cap space today to sign Paul Kruger, Phillip Wheeler, Dashon Goldson [FS], and Keenan Lewis.
Also -- Hey, Browns front office: Stop starting undrafted rookie FA's at free safety. No.
^agree 100%.
also i've seen mentioned a couple times here and in other threads that colt will wind up being the backup in green bay. why would they want mccoy when their offense right now is predicated on the vertical passing game and as we know mccoy doesn't possess those skills?
^agree 100%.
also i've seen mentioned a couple times here and in other threads that colt will wind up being the backup in green bay. why would they want mccoy when their offense right now is predicated on the vertical passing game and as we know mccoy doesn't possess those skills?
Green Bay's passing offense is more heavily predicated on flooding the secondary at every level and having the QB make the right choice. You will rarely, if ever, see a passing play from them where they target a single area with multiple routes a la New England or Denver.
They have has the benefit of having two successive strong armed and accurate QBs as starters, but all that is really required is having tremendous football intelligence and good decision making skills. Their backups have been Graham Harrell and Matt Flynn, two QBs with less than stellar arm strength but with a great grasp of their offensive philosophy.
Colt would fit in well there. If we had adapted their offensive philosophy, I would have loved to see Colt become our starter. That is a situation I believe he will thrive in.
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