Are The Chiefs Idiots?
-
I know this is THE BROWNS BOARD but I noticed that thi sthread has a bunch of replies and no fighting or name calling. I could get used to this.
Some good posts here too. I would argue with the thought of the Chiefs making the playoffs this year though. The Browns will be getting that wildcard spot not the Chiefs. TRich said it and I believe it. Write it down, and bet it in vegas now.
I know this is THE BROWNS BOARD but I noticed that thi sthread has a bunch of replies and no fighting or name calling. I could get used to this.
Some good posts here too. I would argue with the thought of the Chiefs making the playoffs this year though. The Browns will be getting that wildcard spot not the Chiefs. TRich said it and I believe it. Write it down, and bet it in vegas now.
The Browns won't need the wild card spot. They will win the division!!
-
but that's a problem within itself. if the ownership held strong and could endure the fan base screaming that they DON"T see marked improvement within the first 2 years of a 5 year plan, then why hire the guy/staff and give them the backing that you say you will?
hell, i'm sure butch davis if given the 5 years coulda made the browns a contender, the same with mangini.
what it really comes down to is $$. the more the fans scream that the team sucks and that they won't show up to games the less time these coaches and GMs have to instill their plan with their offense and defense and the players needed to run both.
when it comes down to it, we as fans are probably one of the main reasons why owners blow up coaching staffs and their ideals every 3 years.
if KC sucks next year it ain't gonna be because of alex smith. it will be because that no one in the previous 5 years hadn't solidified either line, didn't garner offensive weapons and the ownership didn't allow a HC and it's staff time to implement 'their' system.
Which begs the question: are some of these "miracle coaches" really as good as we've been led to believe? If Chud gets us to a 10 win season and the playoffs, is he a genius or is he just piggybacking off the solid corps of players his predecessors built? That's what I don't like about the NFL. Sometimes it's too hard to tell who's actually a good coach, who inherited a good team, and who is actually a shit coach.
Which begs the question: are some of these "miracle coaches" really as good as we've been led to believe? If Chud gets us to a 10 win season and the playoffs, is he a genius or is he just piggybacking off the solid corps of players his predecessors built? That's what I don't like about the NFL. Sometimes it's too hard to tell who's actually a good coach, who inherited a good team, and who is actually a shit coach.
RAC was a "miracle coach" took like a 5-12 team to 10-6....then went back to what we thought he was.
-
wow. really? smith took them to the championship game the year before without as much talent. did kaepernick win the super bowl?
those weapons you mention for KC are laughable. mccluster 3 good games a year? well let's vote him to the pro bowl right now!
we have better receivers.
give it a rest.
Alex Smith blows and Harbargh has been trying to dump his ass ever since he got there. A lot of people seem to have fallen for his heartfelt story of being Wally Pipped. Kind of like how everybody's heartstrings yearned for Lady Quinn with a firm belief that he would lead the team to greatness because it was his destiny. A lot of people tend to fall for the heartfelt stories. But the real story here is that Harbaugh effed KC in the bunghole and he's probably happy to be rid of his backup QB. He is becoming the new Bill Bellicheck...propping up his dead weight players in the rumor mills and dumping them off on unsuspecting GMs for draft picks. Meanwhile Bill is fishing for a dumbshit to give him some picks for his coked-up Vanilla Ice Wanna-be backup QB too and it'll be interesting to see if anyone is stupid enough to fall for that one.
Alex Smith blows and Harbargh has been trying to dump his ass ever since he got there. A lot of people seem to have fallen for his heartfelt story of being Wally Pipped. Kind of like how everybody's heartstrings yearned for Lady Quinn with a firm belief that he would lead the team to greatness because it was his destiny. A lot of people tend to fall for the heartfelt stories. But the real story here is that Harbaugh effed KC in the bunghole and he's probably happy to be rid of his backup QB. He is becoming the new Bill Bellicheck...propping up his dead weight players in the rumor mills and dumping them off on unsuspecting GMs for draft picks. Meanwhile Bill is fishing for a dumbshit to give him some picks for his coked-up Vanilla Ice Wanna-be backup QB too and it'll be interesting to see if anyone is stupid enough to fall for that one.
I agree that BB does just what you say. That is why we really want no part of a trade for Ryan freeking Mallet.
-
Yes, the Chiefs are idots. So are the Browns. That's why neither team has won a championship since the 60's.
The Chiefs haven't won a game by a QB they drafted since Todd Blackledge. Think about that.
If it wasn't for Marty Scottenheimer the last four decades would have been even much bleaker for these beleaguered franchises.
Zombo said:
Yes, the Chiefs are idots. So are the Browns. That's why neither team has won a championship since the 60's.
The Chiefs haven't won a game by a QB they drafted since Todd Blackledge. Think about that.
If it wasn't for Marty Scottenheimer the last four decades would have been even much bleaker for these beleaguered franchises.
If it wasnt for Martys ineptitude as a coach..we mightve been in a couple superbowls...but Martys vaunted prevent D,prevented that from happening...he made the same mistake everywhere hes been.
-
Zombo said:
Yes, the Chiefs are idots. So are the Browns. That's why neither team has won a championship since the 60's.
The Chiefs haven't won a game by a QB they drafted since Todd Blackledge. Think about that.
If it wasn't for Marty Scottenheimer the last four decades would have been even much bleaker for these beleaguered franchises.
If it wasnt for Martys ineptitude as a coach..we mightve been in a couple superbowls...but Martys vaunted prevent D,prevented that from happening...he made the same mistake everywhere hes been.
If it wasnt for Martys ineptitude as a coach..we mightve been in a couple superbowls...but Martys vaunted prevent D,prevented that from happening...he made the same mistake everywhere hes been.
Inept Marty Took over a 1-7 team in Cleveland and made the playoffs the next four years, including three division championships and two trips to the AFC Championship.
Then inept Marty took over 4-11-1 Kansas City and led them to 9 straight winning seasons, including 7 playoff seasons and an AFC Championship appearance.
After one .500 season in Washington, inept Marty took over in San diego where they were coming off 1-15 and 5-11 seasons, and led them to three winning season, two playoff appearances and a 14-2 mark in their last season.
Since Marty left Cleveland he had two losing season in 16 years.
The Browns have had four winning seasons in 21 years since he left.
Yep, he didn't win the big one ... but I sure would take that brand of ineptness right about now.
Zombo
-
If it wasnt for Martys ineptitude as a coach..we mightve been in a couple superbowls...but Martys vaunted prevent D,prevented that from happening...he made the same mistake everywhere hes been.
Inept Marty Took over a 1-7 team in Cleveland and made the playoffs the next four years, including three division championships and two trips to the AFC Championship.
Then inept Marty took over 4-11-1 Kansas City and led them to 9 straight winning seasons, including 7 playoff seasons and an AFC Championship appearance.
After one .500 season in Washington, inept Marty took over in San diego where they were coming off 1-15 and 5-11 seasons, and led them to three winning season, two playoff appearances and a 14-2 mark in their last season.
Since Marty left Cleveland he had two losing season in 16 years.
The Browns have had four winning seasons in 21 years since he left.
Yep, he didn't win the big one ... but I sure would take that brand of ineptness right about now.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Inept Marty Took over a 1-7 team in Cleveland and made the playoffs the next four years, including three division championships and two trips to the AFC Championship.
Then inept Marty took over 4-11-1 Kansas City and led them to 9 straight winning seasons, including 7 playoff seasons and an AFC Championship appearance.
After one .500 season in Washington, inept Marty took over in San diego where they were coming off 1-15 and 5-11 seasons, and led them to three winning season, two playoff appearances and a 14-2 mark in their last season.
Since Marty left Cleveland he had two losing season in 16 years.
The Browns have had four winning seasons in 21 years since he left.
Yep, he didn't win the big one ... but I sure would take that brand of ineptness right about now.
Zombo
I had enough of almost but not quite.
-
marty and joe R. were responsible for the only good memories i have with the browns.
i'll never say anything bad about either one.
i guess marv levy really sucked the big one.
-
marty and joe R. were responsible for the only good memories i have with the browns.
i'll never say anything bad about either one.
i guess marv levy really sucked the big one.
i guess marv levy really sucked the big one.
That seems to be the mentality in sports now. If you didn't win a championship you sucked and your career was worthless.
Marty, Bud Grant, Marv Levy ...
Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Reggie Miller ...
Ted Williams, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr. ...
Barry Sanders, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts ...
Buncha losers.
Zombo
-
And you know it is Marty's fault that Byner fumbled the ball too. We have gone through soo many really inept coaches over the years. I cannot even believe that any Browns fan would ever bash Marty. Ridiculous.
βThe Wait Is Over, The Browns Will Be In The Playoffs This Year!" -
i guess marv levy really sucked the big one.
That seems to be the mentality in sports now. If you didn't win a championship you sucked and your career was worthless.
Marty, Bud Grant, Marv Levy ...
Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Reggie Miller ...
Ted Williams, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr. ...
Barry Sanders, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts ...
Buncha losers.
Zombo
Zombo said:
That seems to be the mentality in sports now. If you didn't win a championship you sucked and your career was worthless.
Marty, Bud Grant, Marv Levy ...
Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Reggie Miller ...
Ted Williams, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr. ...
Barry Sanders, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts ...
Buncha losers.
Zombo
Exactly right! Two of the three best players I ever watched play their respective sports are on your list in Barry Sanders and Karl Malone. So much fun sitting down and watching Stockton and Malone work thier magic, or to see Sanders make a run out of nothing! In Utah's case they were really good and sure Jerry Sloan had his share of critics but if you asked the experts I bet they all say the same thing. A great coach, and great players!!!!!!
-
If it wasnt for Martys ineptitude as a coach..we mightve been in a couple superbowls...but Martys vaunted prevent D,prevented that from happening...he made the same mistake everywhere hes been.
Inept Marty Took over a 1-7 team in Cleveland and made the playoffs the next four years, including three division championships and two trips to the AFC Championship.
Then inept Marty took over 4-11-1 Kansas City and led them to 9 straight winning seasons, including 7 playoff seasons and an AFC Championship appearance.
After one .500 season in Washington, inept Marty took over in San diego where they were coming off 1-15 and 5-11 seasons, and led them to three winning season, two playoff appearances and a 14-2 mark in their last season.
Since Marty left Cleveland he had two losing season in 16 years.
The Browns have had four winning seasons in 21 years since he left.
Yep, he didn't win the big one ... but I sure would take that brand of ineptness right about now.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Inept Marty Took over a 1-7 team in Cleveland and made the playoffs the next four years, including three division championships and two trips to the AFC Championship.
Then inept Marty took over 4-11-1 Kansas City and led them to 9 straight winning seasons, including 7 playoff seasons and an AFC Championship appearance.
After one .500 season in Washington, inept Marty took over in San diego where they were coming off 1-15 and 5-11 seasons, and led them to three winning season, two playoff appearances and a 14-2 mark in their last season.
Since Marty left Cleveland he had two losing season in 16 years.
The Browns have had four winning seasons in 21 years since he left.
Yep, he didn't win the big one ... but I sure would take that brand of ineptness right about now.
Zombo
That's pretty good recall my friend. I like it! If we had a thumbsup icon, I'd use it.
-
And you know it is Marty's fault that Byner fumbled the ball too. We have gone through soo many really inept coaches over the years. I cannot even believe that any Browns fan would ever bash Marty. Ridiculous.
And you know it is Marty's fault that Byner fumbled the ball too. We have gone through soo many really inept coaches over the years. I cannot even believe that any Browns fan would ever bash Marty. Ridiculous.
Yes , Because Marty is a fool that tried to use the prevent defense....it prevented championships...of wich 90% of NFL coaches have no idea when to use it properly.
-
And you know it is Marty's fault that Byner fumbled the ball too. We have gone through soo many really inept coaches over the years. I cannot even believe that any Browns fan would ever bash Marty. Ridiculous.
Yes , Because Marty is a fool that tried to use the prevent defense....it prevented championships...of wich 90% of NFL coaches have no idea when to use it properly.
Yes , Because Marty is a fool that tried to use the prevent defense....it prevented championships...of wich 90% of NFL coaches have no idea when to use it properly.
Butch Davis lost a playoff game because he had a 17 point lead and went to the prevent in the middle of the third quarter....against the wishes of his DC.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better π
Register Login