Take A "chance" On Warmack
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Nope. We have play maker roles to fill on defense, we need to spend an early pick on those first before we start looking at Guard. How many games could we win after adding Warmack as compared to a good pass rusher or DB?
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A guy that WILL HELP Trich and any qb score more points cant help the Brown's win?
The top 20 pass rushers in the NFL Draft are interchangeableand not even as close to the talent that chance is for his position. there are plenty of affordable ready to go pass rushers in free agency that are better than any one or two draft picks.
even Todd McShay who has the Browns taking chance says that he is the best guard that he is ever scoutedI don't hear him saying that about any pass rusher in this draft. getting Krueger and avril as well as a cornerback in free agency makes a guard pick plus 2 or 3 more pics to pick up more pass rushers or secondary is far from a wasted pic.
not that your opinion is wrong UNFORTUNALLY you're probably right
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so if we get two or three impact players on defense in free agency which we will get at least a few. sorry I believe you get the best player available not just 1 hole that might not be as big a hole at the time of the draft
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so if we get two or three impact players on defense in free agency which we will get at least a few. sorry I believe you get the best player available not just 1 hole that might not be as big a hole at the time of the draft
so if we get two or three impact players on defense in free agency which we will get at least a few. sorry I believe you get the best player available not just 1 hole that might not be as big a hole at the time of the draft
You take the best player available but you also take position into account. You don't draft a kicker or punter before the 3/4th round and you don't take a inside OL before 10. We would be wasting our draft position if we took Warmack over another spot. If we traded back I wouldn't be that upset, but to take him at 6 would be the stupidest move of the draft.
Having said this, it is a moot point. Banner has already said we wouldn't be looking at OL in the first.
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Cause his word is gospil when talking to fans or media.
Besides there isnt a player in the draft worth the 6 pick. Which is y we probly stuck with it.
Ideally moving back to 11-15 for more mid round picks would b best case senerio. But since the rest of the league knows u can get an end or a lb in the 2nd with just as much upside as a 1st rounder it is moot. We can only pray that someone wants a qb with our spot. Cause id bet the farm 75% of the first round defensive talent will be a swing and a miss.
Bottom line is if we that hell bent on getting better thru the draft we need more than six picks.
Its not like the offense is head and shoulders better than the defensive side.
Build the offense with youngins and buy the defense with proven talent.
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The point isn't that warmack is good. Seriously, stop defending this idea -- we've already got 2 first round and 1 second round invested in OL, that's enough this high.
Draft the player that gives you the biggest change in performance from our current roster. That position is the DE/OLB spot - either Jones or Ansah. Even if we sign both kruger and avril, we should still draft from jordan/jones/ansah.
We will get significantly better performance as a team by replacing Lauvao with Warmack's teammate Garrett Jones in the 3rd.
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If you're drafting BPA, it's gonna be Ansah, Jordan, or Warmack.
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Cause his word is gospil when talking to fans or media.
Besides there isnt a player in the draft worth the 6 pick. Which is y we probly stuck with it.
Ideally moving back to 11-15 for more mid round picks would b best case senerio. But since the rest of the league knows u can get an end or a lb in the 2nd with just as much upside as a 1st rounder it is moot. We can only pray that someone wants a qb with our spot. Cause id bet the farm 75% of the first round defensive talent will be a swing and a miss.
Bottom line is if we that hell bent on getting better thru the draft we need more than six picks.
Its not like the offense is head and shoulders better than the defensive side.
Build the offense with youngins and buy the defense with proven talent.
Cause his word is gospil when talking to fans or media.
Besides there isnt a player in the draft worth the 6 pick. Which is y we probly stuck with it.
Ideally moving back to 11-15 for more mid round picks would b best case senerio. But since the rest of the league knows u can get an end or a lb in the 2nd with just as much upside as a 1st rounder it is moot. We can only pray that someone wants a qb with our spot. Cause id bet the farm 75% of the first round defensive talent will be a swing and a miss.
Bottom line is if we that hell bent on getting better thru the draft we need more than six picks.
Its not like the offense is head and shoulders better than the defensive side.
Build the offense with youngins and buy the defense with proven talent.
You answered your own argument- about no one is going to want to trade up. Yup, Warmack is probably the best interior line guy to come along in a long time, but you don't draft interior line at #6.
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Cause his word is gospil when talking to fans or media.
Besides there isnt a player in the draft worth the 6 pick. Which is y we probly stuck with it.
Ideally moving back to 11-15 for more mid round picks would b best case senerio. But since the rest of the league knows u can get an end or a lb in the 2nd with just as much upside as a 1st rounder it is moot. We can only pray that someone wants a qb with our spot. Cause id bet the farm 75% of the first round defensive talent will be a swing and a miss.
Bottom line is if we that hell bent on getting better thru the draft we need more than six picks.
Its not like the offense is head and shoulders better than the defensive side.
Build the offense with youngins and buy the defense with proven talent.
You answered your own argument- about no one is going to want to trade up. Yup, Warmack is probably the best interior line guy to come along in a long time, but you don't draft interior line at #6.
You answered your own argument- about no one is going to want to trade up. Yup, Warmack is probably the best interior line guy to come along in a long time, but you don't draft interior line at #6.
Yep u too r right. Wouldnt take Him at 6. Just like i never said or implied. Just simply gave my opinion on a theoretical senerio. Not going to complain whatever they do.
Just wish the Brown's would finish building one side of the ball. Every new regimne seems to wanna stop building Which ever side the last was on.
Yes we need a pass rusher everyone knows that. But im sayin if we are two or three pieces away from putting a offensive jugggernaught together for six years or longer then damn it MY PERSONAL OPINION I WOULD GO FOR IT.
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You answered your own argument- about no one is going to want to trade up. Yup, Warmack is probably the best interior line guy to come along in a long time, but you don't draft interior line at #6.
Yep u too r right. Wouldnt take Him at 6. Just like i never said or implied. Just simply gave my opinion on a theoretical senerio. Not going to complain whatever they do.
Just wish the Brown's would finish building one side of the ball. Every new regimne seems to wanna stop building Which ever side the last was on.
Yes we need a pass rusher everyone knows that. But im sayin if we are two or three pieces away from putting a offensive jugggernaught together for six years or longer then damn it MY PERSONAL OPINION I WOULD GO FOR IT.
Yep u too r right. Wouldnt take Him at 6. Just like i never said or implied. Just simply gave my opinion on a theoretical senerio. Not going to complain whatever they do.
Just wish the Brown's would finish building one side of the ball. Every new regimne seems to wanna stop building Which ever side the last was on.
Yes we need a pass rusher everyone knows that. But im sayin if we are two or three pieces away from putting a offensive jugggernaught together for six years or longer then damn it MY PERSONAL OPINION I WOULD GO FOR IT.
There is a different from building on the offense if we brought back last years 4-3 as compared to this year when we are switching to a 3-4. On top of that we have how many FA and they plan on letting them all walk! Honestly if if you goal is making the offense better then why don't we just grab a WR or TE there isn't of a guard. Those guys would be able to drastically help the offense.
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No.
Take advantage of the rookie salary cap.
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As tempting as Warmack would be at 6, I wan't some speed on D. Dion Jordan or Ansah would be Ideal. Especially if we can somehow pry Ellerbee from the Ravens(don't know if he resigned yet, and would rather have him over Kruger.
i personally couldnt pull the trigger for Him at 6. Honestly the Top ten pick sucks this year. No one is worth it. Thats why there is no real projection this year and the absolute highest rated player is a guard.As tempting as Warmack would be at 6, I wan't some speed on D. Dion Jordan or Ansah would be Ideal. Especially if we can somehow pry Ellerbee from the Ravens(don't know if he resigned yet, and would rather have him over Kruger.
Besides chance there is no clear cut must have guy. Its whom ever u like i guess.
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i personally couldnt pull the trigger for Him at 6. Honestly the Top ten pick sucks this year. No one is worth it. Thats why there is no real projection this year and the absolute highest rated player is a guard.As tempting as Warmack would be at 6, I wan't some speed on D. Dion Jordan or Ansah would be Ideal. Especially if we can somehow pry Ellerbee from the Ravens(don't know if he resigned yet, and would rather have him over Kruger.
Besides chance there is no clear cut must have guy. Its whom ever u like i guess.
i personally couldnt pull the trigger for Him at 6. Honestly the Top ten pick sucks this year. No one is worth it. Thats why there is no real projection this year and the absolute highest rated player is a guard.
Besides chance there is no clear cut must have guy. Its whom ever u like i guess.
Chance isn't a must have either.
Guards have the last amount of value of all starting positions, that's why they have the lowest average contract.
There's rarely a must have guard. Especially for teams that have multiple positions of need like the Browns. Our biggest area of need is pash rusher, and there are 4 good ones in this draft. Why wouldn't take one is beyond me.
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i personally couldnt pull the trigger for Him at 6. Honestly the Top ten pick sucks this year. No one is worth it. Thats why there is no real projection this year and the absolute highest rated player is a guard.
Besides chance there is no clear cut must have guy. Its whom ever u like i guess.
Chance isn't a must have either.
Guards have the last amount of value of all starting positions, that's why they have the lowest average contract.
There's rarely a must have guard. Especially for teams that have multiple positions of need like the Browns. Our biggest area of need is pash rusher, and there are 4 good ones in this draft. Why wouldn't take one is beyond me.
Chance isn't a must have either.
Guards have the last amount of value of all starting positions, that's why they have the lowest average contract.
There's rarely a must have guard. Especially for teams that have multiple positions of need like the Browns. Our biggest area of need is pash rusher, and there are 4 good ones in this draft. Why wouldn't take one is beyond me.
The only way I would like to see it is if the Browns trade down for 2 1st rounders and take Warmack and one of those pass rushers. But that is only a wild possibility. So it looks like a no.
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Yeah, unless we traded down to the teens I wouldn't draft him. I thought we should have taken DeCastro last year with our 22nd pick, and even then people would have said the 1st round is too high for a guard.
Our guard play is our biggest weakness on offense though, we need better run blocking and we have to address the inside, but not with the 6th pick
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2013 Cleveland Browns NFL Draft Prospect Profile: OG Chance WarmackPATRICK KALISTA 3 weeks ago
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Browns fans have sat through numerous drafts and have thought to themselves, “What were they thinking?” This year, there are many possibilities VP of Player Personnel Mike Lombardi and CEO Joe Banner will have to consider for the team’s ninth top 10 overall pick since the 1999 draft. With so many needs at multiple positions, not everyone is going to be happy come April 25, but I will try to make each possible pick make more sense in its own right.
The Browns made it a point to run the ball effectively last season and even though new offensive coordinator Norv Turner will bring what could be a more passing-oriented offense, the need to run the ball will be there in order to open up the passing attack.
After averaging just 3.6 yards per carry with main back Trent Richardson last season, Cleveland needs to bulk up the offensive line. Offensive guard Chance Warmack would be a big-time addition to the weaker right side and would give the young tackle Mitchell Schwartz some help.
Most say taking an offensive guard in the first round is risky, but when you have a guy that’s ranked in most analysts’ top 5 in player rankings entering the draft, you take that risk.
Warmack put his muscle and speed on display during the BCS National Championship Game against the No. 1 ranked rushing defense and shined. The Crimson Tide had two rushers surpass the 100-yard mark and averaged 5.9 yards per carry, and the top-rated prospect had plenty to do with it.
However, if one game doesn’t provide the evidence of talent, than an entire season should. Warmack helped pave the way for two 1,000-yard plus rushers who averaged 6.3 and 6.5 yards per carry, respectively.
Individually, he led his team with 37 pancake blocks, managed a 99 percent grading in assignments met (721/728) and allowed just 3.5 sacks in 287 pass attempts. At 6-3, 320 pounds Warmack runs a 5.37 40-yard dash and is as strong as they come at his position. Along with his superior physicality he is also very disciplined mentally, as Warmack was penalized just twice throughout the entire season while the Browns’ starting line was flagged 31 times.
Not being able to close out games has been a recurring theme in Cleveland and a solid running game would improve that greatly. If the Browns want to begin to have success next season, being able to run the ball consistently will give them a greater chance to do so.
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2013 Cleveland Browns NFL Draft Prospect Profile: OG Chance WarmackPATRICK KALISTA 3 weeks ago
« PREVIOUS
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Browns fans have sat through numerous drafts and have thought to themselves, “What were they thinking?” This year, there are many possibilities VP of Player Personnel Mike Lombardi and CEO Joe Banner will have to consider for the team’s ninth top 10 overall pick since the 1999 draft. With so many needs at multiple positions, not everyone is going to be happy come April 25, but I will try to make each possible pick make more sense in its own right.
The Browns made it a point to run the ball effectively last season and even though new offensive coordinator Norv Turner will bring what could be a more passing-oriented offense, the need to run the ball will be there in order to open up the passing attack.
After averaging just 3.6 yards per carry with main back Trent Richardson last season, Cleveland needs to bulk up the offensive line. Offensive guard Chance Warmack would be a big-time addition to the weaker right side and would give the young tackle Mitchell Schwartz some help.
Most say taking an offensive guard in the first round is risky, but when you have a guy that’s ranked in most analysts’ top 5 in player rankings entering the draft, you take that risk.
Warmack put his muscle and speed on display during the BCS National Championship Game against the No. 1 ranked rushing defense and shined. The Crimson Tide had two rushers surpass the 100-yard mark and averaged 5.9 yards per carry, and the top-rated prospect had plenty to do with it.
However, if one game doesn’t provide the evidence of talent, than an entire season should. Warmack helped pave the way for two 1,000-yard plus rushers who averaged 6.3 and 6.5 yards per carry, respectively.
Individually, he led his team with 37 pancake blocks, managed a 99 percent grading in assignments met (721/728) and allowed just 3.5 sacks in 287 pass attempts. At 6-3, 320 pounds Warmack runs a 5.37 40-yard dash and is as strong as they come at his position. Along with his superior physicality he is also very disciplined mentally, as Warmack was penalized just twice throughout the entire season while the Browns’ starting line was flagged 31 times.
Not being able to close out games has been a recurring theme in Cleveland and a solid running game would improve that greatly. If the Browns want to begin to have success next season, being able to run the ball consistently will give them a greater chance to do so.
2013 Cleveland Browns NFL Draft Prospect Profile: OG Chance WarmackPATRICK KALISTA 3 weeks ago
« PREVIOUS
NEXT »
Browns fans have sat through numerous drafts and have thought to themselves, “What were they thinking?” This year, there are many possibilities VP of Player Personnel Mike Lombardi and CEO Joe Banner will have to consider for the team’s ninth top 10 overall pick since the 1999 draft. With so many needs at multiple positions, not everyone is going to be happy come April 25, but I will try to make each possible pick make more sense in its own right.
The Browns made it a point to run the ball effectively last season and even though new offensive coordinator Norv Turner will bring what could be a more passing-oriented offense, the need to run the ball will be there in order to open up the passing attack.
After averaging just 3.6 yards per carry with main back Trent Richardson last season, Cleveland needs to bulk up the offensive line. Offensive guard Chance Warmack would be a big-time addition to the weaker right side and would give the young tackle Mitchell Schwartz some help.
Most say taking an offensive guard in the first round is risky, but when you have a guy that’s ranked in most analysts’ top 5 in player rankings entering the draft, you take that risk.
Warmack put his muscle and speed on display during the BCS National Championship Game against the No. 1 ranked rushing defense and shined. The Crimson Tide had two rushers surpass the 100-yard mark and averaged 5.9 yards per carry, and the top-rated prospect had plenty to do with it.
However, if one game doesn’t provide the evidence of talent, than an entire season should. Warmack helped pave the way for two 1,000-yard plus rushers who averaged 6.3 and 6.5 yards per carry, respectively.
Individually, he led his team with 37 pancake blocks, managed a 99 percent grading in assignments met (721/728) and allowed just 3.5 sacks in 287 pass attempts. At 6-3, 320 pounds Warmack runs a 5.37 40-yard dash and is as strong as they come at his position. Along with his superior physicality he is also very disciplined mentally, as Warmack was penalized just twice throughout the entire season while the Browns’ starting line was flagged 31 times.
Not being able to close out games has been a recurring theme in Cleveland and a solid running game would improve that greatly. If the Browns want to begin to have success next season, being able to run the ball consistently will give them a greater chance to do so.
So you quote an Ohio State student's article from before the combine?
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2013 Cleveland Browns NFL Draft Prospect Profile: OG Chance WarmackPATRICK KALISTA 3 weeks ago
« PREVIOUS
NEXT »
Browns fans have sat through numerous drafts and have thought to themselves, “What were they thinking?” This year, there are many possibilities VP of Player Personnel Mike Lombardi and CEO Joe Banner will have to consider for the team’s ninth top 10 overall pick since the 1999 draft. With so many needs at multiple positions, not everyone is going to be happy come April 25, but I will try to make each possible pick make more sense in its own right.
The Browns made it a point to run the ball effectively last season and even though new offensive coordinator Norv Turner will bring what could be a more passing-oriented offense, the need to run the ball will be there in order to open up the passing attack.
After averaging just 3.6 yards per carry with main back Trent Richardson last season, Cleveland needs to bulk up the offensive line. Offensive guard Chance Warmack would be a big-time addition to the weaker right side and would give the young tackle Mitchell Schwartz some help.
Most say taking an offensive guard in the first round is risky, but when you have a guy that’s ranked in most analysts’ top 5 in player rankings entering the draft, you take that risk.
Warmack put his muscle and speed on display during the BCS National Championship Game against the No. 1 ranked rushing defense and shined. The Crimson Tide had two rushers surpass the 100-yard mark and averaged 5.9 yards per carry, and the top-rated prospect had plenty to do with it.
However, if one game doesn’t provide the evidence of talent, than an entire season should. Warmack helped pave the way for two 1,000-yard plus rushers who averaged 6.3 and 6.5 yards per carry, respectively.
Individually, he led his team with 37 pancake blocks, managed a 99 percent grading in assignments met (721/728) and allowed just 3.5 sacks in 287 pass attempts. At 6-3, 320 pounds Warmack runs a 5.37 40-yard dash and is as strong as they come at his position. Along with his superior physicality he is also very disciplined mentally, as Warmack was penalized just twice throughout the entire season while the Browns’ starting line was flagged 31 times.
Not being able to close out games has been a recurring theme in Cleveland and a solid running game would improve that greatly. If the Browns want to begin to have success next season, being able to run the ball consistently will give them a greater chance to do so.
So you quote an Ohio State student's article from before the combine?
So you quote an Ohio State student's article from before the combine?
And? A good quote
is a good quote. No did then someone talkin about 4 tweeners that dont crack 2012 top 15
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