Steelers Release Harrison
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"fellow yinzers"?
You don't understand. You are looking at things as the Browns do it. The Steelers don't fill from the stars of other teams.
You can say "who is going to replace Wallace", but none of us knew about Wallace until they lost Homes, and we were all saying "Who do they have to replace Homles?. No one knew about Harrison until they lost Porter.
Thats how the Pats and Steelers do it.
In 3 years there are going to be new names that they will lose that we don't know about now. And we will say "They're done now"
I understand we don't like facts here. But look at the Linebackers and Recievers they lose, and within a year there is always someone new that takes over.
That's the fact!
The Soldier said:
"fellow yinzers"?
You can say "who is going to replace Wallace", but none of us knew about Wallace until they lost Homes, and we were all saying "Who do they have to replace Homles?. No one knew about Harrison until they lost Porter.
No, you got it wrong...we know who they are going to replace Wallace and Harrision with (Sanders and Worilds respectively), and they aren't as good. Wallace (drops and all) is still far superior to Sanders and Harrison (broken back and practically sackless) is better than Worilds. There's no "stars" in waiting, because they've drafted so poorly since Tomlin came on board.
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I know people do not want to hear this but there is a good chance that we at least look into resigning him. Horton and Haslam are both very familiar with him, we just reached a deal with Kruger and are now looking more at depth, and more importantly Harrison has shown interest. We don't have anyone but fans who don't want to see Harrison in Cleveland. You bring in a quality vet for a 1-2 year contract that isn't heavy financially, let him teach young guns such as Sheard and who ever we draft, and contribute at a good level while he stays healthy.
I wouldn't be mad with bringing him in.
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Steelers are letting Mendenhall leave.. and are going to replace him with Beanie Wells? Um, that's not an upgrade.. and I don't want Wells even as a backup to TR.
Timmons is the only LB there who would start for other teams.. Worilds wouldn't, Larry Foote wouldn't. They're good players, but nothing special.
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The Soldier said:
"fellow yinzers"?
You can say "who is going to replace Wallace", but none of us knew about Wallace until they lost Homes, and we were all saying "Who do they have to replace Homles?. No one knew about Harrison until they lost Porter.
No, you got it wrong...we know who they are going to replace Wallace and Harrision with (Sanders and Worilds respectively), and they aren't as good. Wallace (drops and all) is still far superior to Sanders and Harrison (broken back and practically sackless) is better than Worilds. There's no "stars" in waiting, because they've drafted so poorly since Tomlin came on board.
Endymion said:
No, you got it wrong...we know who they are going to replace Wallace and Harrision with (Sanders and Worilds respectively), and they aren't as good. Wallace (drops and all) is still far superior to Sanders and Harrison (broken back and practically sackless) is better than Worilds. There's no "stars" in waiting, because they've drafted so poorly since Tomlin came on board.
They've drafted poorly since Tomlin? Let's get real. Sure there have been guys that flaked out and never materialized but they've drafted pretty well under Tomlin with the latest class undetermined. Mendenhall (despite his label in Pittsburgh had several very productive seasons), Lewis, Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Pouncey, Timmons, Woodley, DeCastro (yet to be proven but has all the tools), Cortez Allen and the verdict is still out on Worilds. He can rush the passer, he's just not good against the run. I also think Sanders is the best route runner on the team and now he'll have his opportunity to show it. I'd like to see the Steelers take a shot at Swope in the 2nd or 3rd round. They also resigned Plaxico who I think they'll actually use this season.
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Steelers are letting Mendenhall leave.. and are going to replace him with Beanie Wells? Um, that's not an upgrade.. and I don't want Wells even as a backup to TR.
Timmons is the only LB there who would start for other teams.. Worilds wouldn't, Larry Foote wouldn't. They're good players, but nothing special.
Steelers are letting Mendenhall leave.. and are going to replace him with Beanie Wells? Um, that's not an upgrade.. and I don't want Wells even as a backup to TR.
Timmons is the only LB there who would start for other teams.. Worilds wouldn't, Larry Foote wouldn't. They're good players, but nothing special.
Woodley? Battling hammy injuries but he's certainly start for plenty of teams, especially when he's on his game. They've also expressed supposed interest in Steven Jackson but it's all speculation at this point. I don't expect them to bring in either HB.
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Personally I think its funny to see two steeler fans scratch it out over how bad there team is on the browns board.
Oh the irony, but homotron, endimoey is 100% right and its reinforces everything that has been said on here.
Father time has caught up, a couple poor drafts, shitty cap management and poof your done.
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Personally I think its funny to see two steeler fans scratch it out over how bad there team is on the browns board.
Oh the irony, but homotron, endimoey is 100% right and its reinforces everything that has been said on here.
Father time has caught up, a couple poor drafts, shitty cap management and poof your done.
Personally I think its funny to see two steeler fans scratch it out over how bad there team is on the browns board.
Oh the irony, but homotron, endimoey is 100% right and its reinforces everything that has been said on here.
Father time has caught up, a couple poor drafts, shitty cap management and poof your done.
I didn't know he was a Steeler fan for one. Secondly what are we betting that they aren't done? Also were are all these heinous drafts? The Mendenhall drafted ended up being pretty rough. Otherwise were are these poor drafts? Isn't this what the Steelers always do? Restock with role players in FA and hit the draft. They're talking to Dan Connor, possibly Beanie Wells/Steven Jackson. Keeping some of their own and I won't be shocked to see Harrison back in the fold if he doesn't like what he says on the market. I'd like to get Lewis back but Cortez Allen is more athletically gifted and he's ready to go now. We also pick relatively high at pick 17, not high like you guys always seem to pick but high for the Steelers. Let's wait and see before you jump on the "old and tired" train. Seeing as this board is playing in the cousin eddie casino from vegas vacation as far as predictions worth a damn are concerned.
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From what i'm to understand Joe Banner has a reputation for not wanting aging vets on the team, so I really don't see him bringing Harrison in. Unless its on the waaayyy cheap. But then that takes snaps away from an up and coming younger talent...
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Endymion said:
No, you got it wrong...we know who they are going to replace Wallace and Harrision with (Sanders and Worilds respectively), and they aren't as good. Wallace (drops and all) is still far superior to Sanders and Harrison (broken back and practically sackless) is better than Worilds. There's no "stars" in waiting, because they've drafted so poorly since Tomlin came on board.
They've drafted poorly since Tomlin? Let's get real. Sure there have been guys that flaked out and never materialized but they've drafted pretty well under Tomlin with the latest class undetermined. Mendenhall (despite his label in Pittsburgh had several very productive seasons), Lewis, Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Pouncey, Timmons, Woodley, DeCastro (yet to be proven but has all the tools), Cortez Allen and the verdict is still out on Worilds. He can rush the passer, he's just not good against the run. I also think Sanders is the best route runner on the team and now he'll have his opportunity to show it. I'd like to see the Steelers take a shot at Swope in the 2nd or 3rd round. They also resigned Plaxico who I think they'll actually use this season.
They've drafted poorly since Tomlin?
Mendenhall (despite his label in Pittsburgh had several very productive seasons), Lewis, Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Pouncey, Timmons, Woodley, DeCastro (yet to be proven but has all the tools), Cortez Allen and the verdict is still out on Worilds.
Okay, so since 2008 the Steelers have hit 2-3 homeruns (Pouncey, Wallace and A. Brown). The have drafted a number of starters and have improved their overall selections considerably from 2008 (Abysmal Class) to 2011. I'm not really looking at 2012's class yet. You don't make a convincing argument with the names you have listed.
1. Keenan Lewis is mostly likely heading to the Browns...and he's better than Cortez Allen.
2. Mendenhall (the only somewhat decent pick of 2008) is no longer on the team.
3. Mike Wallace is a Miami Dolphin and not helping Pittsburgh out.
4. Antonio Brown seems to be a good pickup, but the Steelers tied up too much money in him after only one good season.
5. Pouncey was a homerun, if only he can stay healthy. Unfortunately they made some less than stellar pickups in Gilbert and Rainey based on Pouncey. Gilbert injured a number of lineman, including DeCastro because, well because he stinks and can't hold his ground.
6. Timmons was a poor consolation prize after Tomlin tipped his hand on Revis. Timmons has shown flashes and nothing more. He got way to big a contract based on flashes and has failed to outperform Larry Foote.
7. Woodley was a world beater for 2 years, got a big contract and a big gut and has hardly played a down since. Wasted cap space.
8. DeCastro has too little a body of work to be singing praises too.
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They've drafted poorly since Tomlin?
Mendenhall (despite his label in Pittsburgh had several very productive seasons), Lewis, Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Pouncey, Timmons, Woodley, DeCastro (yet to be proven but has all the tools), Cortez Allen and the verdict is still out on Worilds.
Okay, so since 2008 the Steelers have hit 2-3 homeruns (Pouncey, Wallace and A. Brown). The have drafted a number of starters and have improved their overall selections considerably from 2008 (Abysmal Class) to 2011. I'm not really looking at 2012's class yet. You don't make a convincing argument with the names you have listed.
1. Keenan Lewis is mostly likely heading to the Browns...and he's better than Cortez Allen.
2. Mendenhall (the only somewhat decent pick of 2008) is no longer on the team.
3. Mike Wallace is a Miami Dolphin and not helping Pittsburgh out.
4. Antonio Brown seems to be a good pickup, but the Steelers tied up too much money in him after only one good season.
5. Pouncey was a homerun, if only he can stay healthy. Unfortunately they made some less than stellar pickups in Gilbert and Rainey based on Pouncey. Gilbert injured a number of lineman, including DeCastro because, well because he stinks and can't hold his ground.
6. Timmons was a poor consolation prize after Tomlin tipped his hand on Revis. Timmons has shown flashes and nothing more. He got way to big a contract based on flashes and has failed to outperform Larry Foote.
7. Woodley was a world beater for 2 years, got a big contract and a big gut and has hardly played a down since. Wasted cap space.
8. DeCastro has too little a body of work to be singing praises too.
Endymion said:
Okay, so since 2008 the Steelers have hit 2-3 homeruns (Pouncey, Wallace and A. Brown). The have drafted a number of starters and have improved their overall selections considerably from 2008 (Abysmal Class) to 2011. I'm not really looking at 2012's class yet. You don't make a convincing argument with the names you have listed.
1. Keenan Lewis is mostly likely heading to the Browns...and he's better than Cortez Allen.
2. Mendenhall (the only somewhat decent pick of 2008) is no longer on the team.
3. Mike Wallace is a Miami Dolphin and not helping Pittsburgh out.
4. Antonio Brown seems to be a good pickup, but the Steelers tied up too much money in him after only one good season.
5. Pouncey was a homerun, if only he can stay healthy. Unfortunately they made some less than stellar pickups in Gilbert and Rainey. Gilbert injured a number of lineman, including DeCastro because, well because he stinks and can't hold his ground.
6. Timmons was a poor consolation prize after Tomlin tipped his hand on Revis. Timmons has shown flashes and nothing more. He got way to big a contract based on flashes and has failed to outperform Larry Foote.
7. Woodley was a world beater for 2 years, got a big contract and a big gut and has hardly played a down since. Wasted cap space.
8. DeCastro has too little a body of work to be singing praises too.
Can't argue with that.
Zombo
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Personally I think its funny to see two steeler fans scratch it out over how bad there team is on the browns board.
Oh the irony, but homotron, endimoey is 100% right and its reinforces everything that has been said on here.
Father time has caught up, a couple poor drafts, shitty cap management and poof your done.
I didn't know he was a Steeler fan for one. Secondly what are we betting that they aren't done? Also were are all these heinous drafts? The Mendenhall drafted ended up being pretty rough. Otherwise were are these poor drafts? Isn't this what the Steelers always do? Restock with role players in FA and hit the draft. They're talking to Dan Connor, possibly Beanie Wells/Steven Jackson. Keeping some of their own and I won't be shocked to see Harrison back in the fold if he doesn't like what he says on the market. I'd like to get Lewis back but Cortez Allen is more athletically gifted and he's ready to go now. We also pick relatively high at pick 17, not high like you guys always seem to pick but high for the Steelers. Let's wait and see before you jump on the "old and tired" train. Seeing as this board is playing in the cousin eddie casino from vegas vacation as far as predictions worth a damn are concerned.
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They've drafted poorly since Tomlin?
Mendenhall (despite his label in Pittsburgh had several very productive seasons), Lewis, Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Pouncey, Timmons, Woodley, DeCastro (yet to be proven but has all the tools), Cortez Allen and the verdict is still out on Worilds.
Okay, so since 2008 the Steelers have hit 2-3 homeruns (Pouncey, Wallace and A. Brown). The have drafted a number of starters and have improved their overall selections considerably from 2008 (Abysmal Class) to 2011. I'm not really looking at 2012's class yet. You don't make a convincing argument with the names you have listed.
1. Keenan Lewis is mostly likely heading to the Browns...and he's better than Cortez Allen.
2. Mendenhall (the only somewhat decent pick of 2008) is no longer on the team.
3. Mike Wallace is a Miami Dolphin and not helping Pittsburgh out.
4. Antonio Brown seems to be a good pickup, but the Steelers tied up too much money in him after only one good season.
5. Pouncey was a homerun, if only he can stay healthy. Unfortunately they made some less than stellar pickups in Gilbert and Rainey based on Pouncey. Gilbert injured a number of lineman, including DeCastro because, well because he stinks and can't hold his ground.
6. Timmons was a poor consolation prize after Tomlin tipped his hand on Revis. Timmons has shown flashes and nothing more. He got way to big a contract based on flashes and has failed to outperform Larry Foote.
7. Woodley was a world beater for 2 years, got a big contract and a big gut and has hardly played a down since. Wasted cap space.
8. DeCastro has too little a body of work to be singing praises too.
Endymion said:
Okay, so since 2008 the Steelers have hit 2-3 homeruns (Pouncey, Wallace and A. Brown). The have drafted a number of starters and have improved their overall selections considerably from 2008 (Abysmal Class) to 2011. I'm not really looking at 2012's class yet. You don't make a convincing argument with the names you have listed.
1. Keenan Lewis is mostly likely heading to the Browns...and he's better than Cortez Allen.
2. Mendenhall (the only somewhat decent pick of 2008) is no longer on the team.
3. Mike Wallace is a Miami Dolphin and not helping Pittsburgh out.
4. Antonio Brown seems to be a good pickup, but the Steelers tied up too much money in him after only one good season.
5. Pouncey was a homerun, if only he can stay healthy. Unfortunately they made some less than stellar pickups in Gilbert and Rainey. Gilbert injured a number of lineman, including DeCastro because, well because he stinks and can't hold his ground.
6. Timmons was a poor consolation prize after Tomlin tipped his hand on Revis. Timmons has shown flashes and nothing more. He got way to big a contract based on flashes and has failed to outperform Larry Foote.
7. Woodley was a world beater for 2 years, got a big contract and a big gut and has hardly played a down since. Wasted cap space.
8. DeCastro has too little a body of work to be singing praises too.
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"fellow yinzers"?
You don't understand. You are looking at things as the Browns do it. The Steelers don't fill from the stars of other teams.
You can say "who is going to replace Wallace", but none of us knew about Wallace until they lost Homes, and we were all saying "Who do they have to replace Homles?. No one knew about Harrison until they lost Porter.
Thats how the Pats and Steelers do it.
In 3 years there are going to be new names that they will lose that we don't know about now. And we will say "They're done now"
I understand we don't like facts here. But look at the Linebackers and Recievers they lose, and within a year there is always someone new that takes over.
That's the fact!
The Soldier said:
"fellow yinzers"?
Yes, yinzers. Do you have a problem being called that? I could come up with much worse. Besides it was one of yinzers that told me that that is what you called yourselves.
You don't understand. You are looking at things as the Browns do it. The Steelers don't fill from the stars of other teams.
No, I fully understand that the Steelers don't usually go heavy into the FA market. But, perhaps what you don't understand is that even if the Steelers don't go heavily into the FA market, that does not mean they don't lose players to the FA market.
You can say "who is going to replace Wallace", but none of us knew about Wallace until they lost Homes, and we were all saying "Who do they have to replace Homles?. No one knew about Harrison until they lost Porter.
Thats how the Pats and Steelers do it.
In 3 years there are going to be new names that they will lose that we don't know about now. And we will say "They're done now"
I understand we don't like facts here. But look at the Linebackers and Recievers they lose, and within a year there is always someone new that takes over.
That's the fact!
Again, I understand the facts. The facts are, yes, the Steelers have been very fortuitous in replacing big names on their teams with new players they have drafted.
I understand that they have had a very successful operation that has kept them at a top echelon.
I understand that they have had one of the best coaches in history running their defense.
I also know that it will not necessarily always be that way.
You think that because the steelers have always come back from down periods that it will happen again. You think that 8-8 is a down season for you, because in the past they have always been able to rebound.
You go on faith that the new LBs and WRs will become as good as the old LBs and WRs. Understandable
But that doesn't mean it MUST happen, or that it will happen. It MAY happen. Then again the time may be that it does not.
As for the Patriots. We shall see. Their primary success has been achieved through the auspices of one man....and when that man is no longer around we shall see whether or not they will maintain their success.
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Looks like the steelers are so desperate that they are signing former Cleveland Brown cast off Bruce Gradkowski.
And they cut G wilie colon.
When Big gay goes down, which he normally does we are going to have to really game plan for this guy.
Evil laugh...
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yeah,I mean...you cant replace HOF talent like Polly who is retired or will retire. James Harrison will/has probably roided himself out of the league...I dont feel one bit sorry for the stools..May they land happily into a pile of shit!
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yeah,I mean...you cant replace HOF talent like Polly who is retired or will retire. James Harrison will/has probably roided himself out of the league...I dont feel one bit sorry for the stools..May they land happily into a pile of shit!
yeah,I mean...you cant replace HOF talent like Polly who is retired or will retire. James Harrison will/has probably roided himself out of the league...I dont feel one bit sorry for the stools..May they land happily into a pile of shit!
OH, NO, that is not what Soulja Boy says. He says that no matter who the Steelers lose they will always come up with someone just as good to replace them with. That they will just scrounge the bottom of some barrel and come up smelling like roses.
For the past many years that has been the case.
But this time it seems that they will have to go dumpster diving many, many times. And sorry, you go dumpster diving enough you will frequently just come up with garbage.
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It's about damn time the tide turns, hopefully this is the year.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
It's about damn time the tide turns, hopefully this is the year.
It's about damn time the tide turns, hopefully this is the year.
Well, with the Ravens defense now retired, or playing somewhere else it's about time for the division to turn upside down. Browns and Bengals battle it out for the top spot.
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It's about damn time the tide turns, hopefully this is the year.
It's about damn time the tide turns, hopefully this is the year.
As in tide turning, it will probably involve the Steelers and Browns duking it out for the highest draft spot from the AFC North. The Bengals and Ratbirds will probably duke it out for the Division crown, and at this time both are favored to make the play-offs. Weeden hasn't shown anything and your coaching staff don't seem to enamored with him. In order to be contenders the Browns need a signal caller to emerge and possibly another wide reciever. Your defense (as is) will probably keep you in most games.
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They've drafted poorly since Tomlin?
Mendenhall (despite his label in Pittsburgh had several very productive seasons), Lewis, Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Pouncey, Timmons, Woodley, DeCastro (yet to be proven but has all the tools), Cortez Allen and the verdict is still out on Worilds.
Okay, so since 2008 the Steelers have hit 2-3 homeruns (Pouncey, Wallace and A. Brown). The have drafted a number of starters and have improved their overall selections considerably from 2008 (Abysmal Class) to 2011. I'm not really looking at 2012's class yet. You don't make a convincing argument with the names you have listed.
1. Keenan Lewis is mostly likely heading to the Browns...and he's better than Cortez Allen.
2. Mendenhall (the only somewhat decent pick of 2008) is no longer on the team.
3. Mike Wallace is a Miami Dolphin and not helping Pittsburgh out.
4. Antonio Brown seems to be a good pickup, but the Steelers tied up too much money in him after only one good season.
5. Pouncey was a homerun, if only he can stay healthy. Unfortunately they made some less than stellar pickups in Gilbert and Rainey based on Pouncey. Gilbert injured a number of lineman, including DeCastro because, well because he stinks and can't hold his ground.
6. Timmons was a poor consolation prize after Tomlin tipped his hand on Revis. Timmons has shown flashes and nothing more. He got way to big a contract based on flashes and has failed to outperform Larry Foote.
7. Woodley was a world beater for 2 years, got a big contract and a big gut and has hardly played a down since. Wasted cap space.
8. DeCastro has too little a body of work to be singing praises too.
Endymion said:
Okay, so since 2008 the Steelers have hit 2-3 homeruns (Pouncey, Wallace and A. Brown). The have drafted a number of starters and have improved their overall selections considerably from 2008 (Abysmal Class) to 2011. I'm not really looking at 2012's class yet. You don't make a convincing argument with the names you have listed.
1. Keenan Lewis is mostly likely heading to the Browns...and he's better than Cortez Allen.
Keenan Lewis had one very solid season. He had a lot of deflected passes but not alot of turnovers. He's a sure tackler but every cb in the steeler system has to be able to tackle, at least if they're going to start. The REASON Keenan Lewis is testing the market right now is because the FO believes Allen is the better corner back. He will prove that this coming season, especially if Lewis leaves. He's faster, he's big like Ike Taylor and he has great hands. Lewis is meeting with the Saints, i haven't seen ANY serious reporting on him landing with the Browns.2. Mendenhall (the only somewhat decent pick of 2008) is no longer on the team.
I agree this draft class was pretty rough. Limas Sweed didn't pan out, nor did Bruce Davis. I'm still a fan of Mendenhall but he ran himself out of town and apparently there wasn't a whole lot of interest elsewhere as he signed a one year (feel it out) type contract with the Cardinals3. Mike Wallace is a Miami Dolphin and not helping Pittsburgh out.
How exactly is this a knock on their drafting? He just got paid 12M per because of his ability. The Steelers couldn't offer him that contract so it's now a knock on their drafting? Makes absolutely zero sense4. Antonio Brown seems to be a good pickup, but the Steelers tied up too much money in him after only one good season.
New offensive coordinator and oft injured Ben hurt his numbers but there is no denying his ability and he's worth that contract.5. Pouncey was a homerun, if only he can stay healthy. Unfortunately they made some less than stellar pickups in Gilbert and Rainey based on Pouncey. Gilbert injured a number of lineman, including DeCastro because, well because he stinks and can't hold his ground.
Rainey was going to be something before he decided to rough up his gf. The Steelers don't usually draft character question marks but I think they were playing it off his connection with Pouncey to get him over the hump. Gilbert on the other hand will be playing LT where he's apparently better suited. Outside of rolling up on guys (a problem) he's been solid.6. Timmons was a poor consolation prize after Tomlin tipped his hand on Revis. Timmons has shown flashes and nothing more. He got way to big a contract based on flashes and has failed to outperform Larry Foote.
What the hell are you watching exactly? He's one of the most athletically gifted inside linebackers in the NFL and hardly a "consolation prize" and he's twice the linebacker that foote is. He's coming off a very strong season, his "down" season was attributed to filling in for injuries at outside linebacker for both Woodley and Harrison. Timmmons is a damn beast, as explosive as Polamalu in his prime and he hits like a dump truck. Nevermind his ability to close on guys. You're on another planet with this one, sorry.7. Woodley was a world beater for 2 years, got a big contract and a big gut and has hardly played a down since. Wasted cap space.
He's been battling hamstring issues but I agree he hasn't been as productive but he was called out on it as a direct result. I expect to see him in much better shape, carrying less weight and a return to his dominant ways. I also think we'll see Worilds starting at LOLB and Woodley getting bumped to ROLB.8. DeCastro has too little a body of work to be singing praises too.
Way to early to tell, i agree.My responses are designated with the
. I still fail to see how losing guys in free agency reflects poorly on their ability to draft. If anything it's a testament to the guys that are getting heavy interest in the open market. Therefore your post by in large is garbeezy and short sighted but that's fine. I watch a lot of football and I'm seeing something completely different than your above assessment and I'm not alone. Timmons was what 21 when he joined the NFL. He's just entering his "PRIME" and had a tremendous season last year.
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