Draft Thoughts 2013
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Making a couple of assumptions here - 1) we sign Brent Grimes; 2) he becomes starting corner with Haden. What then? Do we look at OLB again at number 6? Another assumption, but by signing Campbell we're not going to be taking Geno Smith at 6. So then we're looking at a bunch of OLB and OT guys (since we're not taking Milliner) - the more I think about it, the more I see us trading back a bit for someone like Warmack, or maybe a real huge trade like we did with the Falcons a couple of years ago for Julio Jones.
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Browns to host South Carolina safety D.J. Swearinger
by Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer
3/28/2013 5:45 PM
The Browns will host South Carolina safety D.J. Swearinger as one of their 30 pre-draft visits, a source said.
Swearinger (5-10, 208) recorded 80 tackles, two interceptions and seven breakups in 2012.
He's played every position in the defensive backfield, including cornerback, strong safety and free safety. The Browns are looking for a safety to start opposite T.J. Ward.
After watching no more film then this, i want this guy..lol
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If we draft a QB this year, I hope it's Tulane's Ryan Griffin.. in the late rounds.
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Dear lord do we need a #2 db. If Millner does not fall to us, I would say trade back 4-6 spots and get Rhodes.
One other thing. How come when we have a shitty to semi shitty season we always miss out on Elite talent, Ala Patrick Petterson, A.J. Gren, fucking Andrew Luck.
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I think there are some Elite talent players that will be on the map once the season starts
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Warmack with trade for 6
Da'Rick Rogers with trade into 2nd
Tyler Bray at 3rd Round
Honey Badger or Logan Ryan in the 4th
Hawthorne in 5th
goodbye Joe Thomas it was great knowing you.
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Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
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Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
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Jarvis Jones is the best OLB in the draft, but Jordan will probably get drafted ahead of him.
The CB class sucks this year when compared to last year's class, or the year before, or.. pretty much every other year. The fourth CB in last year's class, Janoris Jenkins at STL, is better than Milliner. Slay is at best 7th in this class.. and is a passable 3rd CB but not a starter.. so because we already have 2 third CB's, either we take Milliner or just play only one CB this year. Note that the safety class this year is one of the best in recent memory - so if we can get Georgia's Rambo with our third-round pick we'd be doing well.. he's by far the best ballhawk and can hit if needed, he was set off the LOS this past year. He didn't lead the nation in INT only because he was suspended for the first 4 games.
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Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
Zombo said:
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
Ya, did a little more research and Winters looks to be projected as more of a 2nd to 3rd round pick, as well as Landry Jones. So, I'd bump Klein into our 1st 5th round pick, and the rest is all BPA as it really doesn't matter after that point anyway. And, Capasso isn't even on the radar according to most websites, but he is the only WR the Browns have talked to other than Tavon Austin. But, at least it looks like we're looking at guys that make sense to fill needs despite lacking a 2nd round pick.
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Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
Zombo said:
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
Here is a comprehensive list of visits per Walter Football:
Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia (PRI)
Anthony Capasso, WR, Ashland (PRO)
Jonathan Cooper, OL, North Carolina (PRI)
Jonathan Cyprien, DB, Florida International (PRI)
Josh Hill, TE, Idaho State (EW)
Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma (COM)
Datone Jones, DL, UCLA (PRI)
Dion Jordan, DL, Oregon (PRI)
Don Jones, DB, Arkansas State (PRI)
Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia (COM)
Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma (PRO)
Dion Jordan, DL, Oregon (PRI)
Nick Kasa, TE, Colorado (SR)
A.J. Klein, LB, Iowa State (EW)
E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State (PRI)
Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU (PRI)
Dee Milliner, DB, Alabama (PRI)
Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse (PRI)
Will Pericak, DL, Colorado (EW)
Sheldon Richardson, DL, Missouri (PRI)
Logan Ryan, DB, Rutgers (PRI)
Matt Scott, QB, Arizona (PRI)
Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia (PRI)
Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma (PRI)
D.J. Swearinger, DB, South Carolina (PRI)
Carson Tinker, LS, Alabama (SR)
Cornelius Washington, DL, Georgia (SR)
Larry Warford, OL, Kentucky (PRI)
Earl Watford, OL, James Madison (EW)
Brian Winters, G, Kent State (COM)
SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day meeting.
PRI - Private Workout.
% - indicates more than one meeting.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2013 Senior Bowl or the 2013 East-West Shrine Game
I fully expect our first rounder to be on there as teams almost always visit their first round choice. For example, last year the Browns met with Richardson, Weeden, JMJ, and Schwartz.
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Mel Kiper had a conference call where he stated that "Bacarri Rambo, Duke Williams, Don Jones, Earl Wolff and Rontez Miles among expected mid round targets of Browns. Kiper expected a run on Safetys in the 2nd round, as this years class isn't as deep as expected.
On the other hand, the depth for corners is much greater per Kipe, with B.W. Webb, Darius Slay, Johnny Adams, and Tyrann Mathieu as targets for round 3 or 4.
and here's some Logan Ryan from Rutgers highlights
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Warmack with trade for 6
Da'Rick Rogers with trade into 2nd
Tyler Bray at 3rd Round
Honey Badger or Logan Ryan in the 4th
Hawthorne in 5th
goodbye Joe Thomas it was great knowing you.
Honey Badger or Logan Ryan in the 4th
mathieu won't be there in the 4th.
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What are people's thoughts on this? Say we're able to trade down to dolphins and get 2nd rd pick.
Rd 1. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St
Rd 2. Justin Pugh OG Cuse
Rd 3. Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU (convert to FS)
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What are people's thoughts on this? Say we're able to trade down to dolphins and get 2nd rd pick.
Rd 1. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St
Rd 2. Justin Pugh OG Cuse
Rd 3. Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU (convert to FS)
What are people's thoughts on this? Say we're able to trade down to dolphins and get 2nd rd pick.
Rd 1. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St
Rd 2. Justin Pugh OG Cuse
Rd 3. Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU (convert to FS)
Mathieu is far too small to play FS.
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What are people's thoughts on this? Say we're able to trade down to dolphins and get 2nd rd pick.
Rd 1. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St
Rd 2. Justin Pugh OG Cuse
Rd 3. Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU (convert to FS)
Mathieu is far too small to play FS.
Mathieu is far too small to play FS.
yeah a 5'9' 150lb safety???
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Mathieu is far too small to play FS.
yeah a 5'9' 150lb safety???
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It would work wonders in Madden
Tj ward 5'10 210
Mathieu 5'9 185
Ward is our hard hitter. Just need mathieu to get after the ball. could put on 10 pounds he'll be fine.
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It would work wonders in Madden
Tj ward 5'10 210
Mathieu 5'9 185
Ward is our hard hitter. Just need mathieu to get after the ball. could put on 10 pounds he'll be fine.
Tj ward 5'10 210
Mathieu 5'9 185
Ward is our hard hitter. Just need mathieu to get after the ball. could put on 10 pounds he'll be fine.
Being smaller and quicker than many of the bigger guys would enable him to hide from the QB better. Plus, the advantage in momentum would be extremely noticable, he would be able to make cuts on a dime compared the big guys, he would just fly right by them once he gets the ball in his hands.
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if we somehow (miraculously) get an offer to trade down it depends on who's there at the spot we trade down to. ansah jordan jones millner mingo likely will all be gone so if the FO is smart they would pick warmack. the drop off between the talent of top ten to top 20 ish is marginal but it's really about position of need.
we picked a lot of LBs in FA but didn't address the defensive backfield. we will have to do so in the draft.
it would also be nice to solidify the right side of the line while mack and thomas can still play.
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