Draft Thoughts 2013
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6) Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
- Milliner is the only pick here unless the Browns trade down. The reason is that they can get a pass rushing OLB in the top of the third. Milliner would step in, and while he would struggle to transition from his college scheme, he would still be an immediate upgrade with excellent potential. A willing player in the run and a guy who has a knack for deflections. Milliner truly does project as a player similar to Haden.
68) Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Miss
- The Browns pick up a big and athletic linebacker here. He tested exceptionally well in explosion tests (1.58 10-Yard, 41.5" Vertical, 11'7" Broad) and has production to back it up (16.5 sacks, 39.5 TFL in the past two seasons). He could rotate with Sheard and Kruger to form an excellent combination.
104) Josh Evans, FS, Florida
- I believe Evans will go higher than expected. He was overshadowed by his highly touted teammate Matt Elam. The Browns grab him to become a true FS, which this draft does not have a lot of. He would immediately challenge for the starting spot opposite of Ward. His athleticism would be a nice addition to the FS spot and his potential to cover deep would allow Ward to read and react.
139) Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
- The Browns have a visit planned for Stills, and I can see him being drafted for slot duties. He showed off his speed at the combine and had decent production. Gordon, Little, Stills, and Benjamin would provide Weeden with a lot of speed (both quickness and deep field) on the field.
157) J.C. Tretter, G, Cornell
- An athletic guard who would be great for development. He would need to add strength, but in a year or two, he could step between Thomas and Mack to form an excellent left side. A pure project pick.
173) Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State
- Browns fans have been spoiled with consistency by having Dawson for the past decade. Hopkins is the top kicker in the draft and conceivable could be around for the next ten years.
227) Marqueis Gray, QB/H-Back/TE, Minnesota
- Now this could go a variety of different ways. Gray never had a good supporting cast around him at Minnesota, nor was he ever truly healthy. He could be a developmental QB, who could potentially be a backup. He at least has some tools as a QB, or they could move him to H-Back/TE (better idea) and have him become a project. The Browns could immediately show Gray tape of how Michael Robinson welcomed the transformation from QB to FB. Stash him on the practice squad for a year and see what happens.
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Looking through that list of players who have visited its interesting that neither Rhodes nor Warmack are on it. If they were looking to trade back you would think both those players would in the frame for a mid round pick.
Maybe they have decided to pick 6 or just haven't had any offers they like so will take whats there from Jordan, Ansah or Miliner.
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I would like to know how come Damontre Moore fell out of most 1st round rankings? He was a top 5 pick after the Bowl season.
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I would like to know how come Damontre Moore fell out of most 1st round rankings? He was a top 5 pick after the Bowl season.
I would like to know how come Damontre Moore fell out of most 1st round rankings? He was a top 5 pick after the Bowl season.
I was wondering the same thing. He has flat out dropped out of sight. Does anyone know what happened?
Mike
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He tested horribly at the combine and then barely made any improvement at his Pro Day. The combine problem is forgivable, but to forego/or barely make an improvement in tests during your pro day is a red flag. Even if he went out and ran a 4.88 at his pro day compared to his 4.95 combine time, that would have been great, but he just chose not to run. He claimed a pull hamstring. He did improve his 12 reps (awful) to 19 reps(mediocre). He is dropping, but I don't believe he should drop out of the top 40 picks.
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He tested horribly at the combine and then barely made any improvement at his Pro Day. The combine problem is forgivable, but to forego/or barely make an improvement in tests during your pro day is a red flag. Even if he went out and ran a 4.88 at his pro day compared to his 4.95 combine time, that would have been great, but he just chose not to run. He claimed a pull hamstring. He did improve his 12 reps (awful) to 19 reps(mediocre). He is dropping, but I don't believe he should drop out of the top 40 picks.
He tested horribly at the combine and then barely made any improvement at his Pro Day. The combine problem is forgivable, but to forego/or barely make an improvement in tests during your pro day is a red flag. Even if he went out and ran a 4.88 at his pro day compared to his 4.95 combine time, that would have been great, but he just chose not to run. He claimed a pull hamstring. He did improve his 12 reps (awful) to 19 reps(mediocre). He is dropping, but I don't believe he should drop out of the top 40 picks.
Looks good on tape
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We should take the rugby player from England in the 7th - lawrence okoye. We need a 6th DL anyway.
Our 3rd QB should be Marve from Purdue because he has all the throws and the ability to read defenses - he was just unlucky with injuries in college.
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Mock w/ Trade:
Trade #6 & #104 to San Diego for #11 and #45
#11 - Jarvis Jones - OLB - Georiga
#45 - Kyle Long - OG/T - Oregon
#68 - Logan Ryan - CB - Rutgers
#139 - Nick Kasa - TE - Colorado
#171 - Josh Evans - S - Florida
#180 - A.J. Klein - ILB - Iowa St
#234 - Washaun Ealey - RB - Jacksonville St
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I have seen a few different mock drafts on walterfootball.com and I have seen a trade that would make sense for us. Its the Chargers trading from 11 to 6, reason being is that they need a stud LT, and one will not fall to them at 11. With this trade we will still have some great options at CB and LB, and get a pretty reasonable 2nd round pick selection spot. However I still believe that if Dee is still there at 6 then we will take him, and get our FS in the 3rd.
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I'm wondering - if Milliner is there at 6, what are the chances of him still being there at 11 if we trade down? Is one of Bills, Cards, Jets and Titans going to take him? Big gamble, but if he's gone we could still pick up rhodes at 11, or if we don't value him that highly banks in the second round.
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I'm wondering - if Milliner is there at 6, what are the chances of him still being there at 11 if we trade down? Is one of Bills, Cards, Jets and Titans going to take him? Big gamble, but if he's gone we could still pick up rhodes at 11, or if we don't value him that highly banks in the second round.
I'm wondering - if Milliner is there at 6, what are the chances of him still being there at 11
I don't think Milliner will get past the Jets at 9.. they're trading some dude named Revis. If the Jets take Lotulelei, the Titans at 10 have stated on record they're 100% taking Milliner if he drops. I would not trade back -- the difference in skill between Milliner and Rhodes is not small.
I hope this article will eliminate any consideration of Mathieu being drafted by the Browns.. the guy is a basket case.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Miami has the extra picks this year in the second and third rounds to outbid the Chargers to trade up with the Browns.
Very cool.
I still like Darius Slay in the second, I doubt he'll make it to the third....
Only Savage would have drafted Mathieu for the Browns.
Will....never......happen.
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I'm wondering - if Milliner is there at 6, what are the chances of him still being there at 11
I don't think Milliner will get past the Jets at 9.. they're trading some dude named Revis. If the Jets take Lotulelei, the Titans at 10 have stated on record they're 100% taking Milliner if he drops. I would not trade back -- the difference in skill between Milliner and Rhodes is not small.
I hope this article will eliminate any consideration of Mathieu being drafted by the Browns.. the guy is a basket case.
I don't think Milliner will get past the Jets at 9.. they're trading some dude named Revis. If the Jets take Lotulelei, the Titans at 10 have stated on record they're 100% taking Milliner if he drops. I would not trade back -- the difference in skill between Milliner and Rhodes is not small.
I hope this article will eliminate any consideration of Mathieu being drafted by the Browns.. the guy is a basket case.
Fair enough, I was thinking that the Jets would be in the market. Hadn't heard about the titans though.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1665147/xavier-rhodes
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737099/dee-milliner
These are the differences in combine and proday work outs. As you can see there are not a lot of differences. However I do like the extra height on Rhodes, plus 4 more inch vert. Rhodes from a trade down will be one heck of a pick up. Plus a SS either Eric Ried or D.J Swearinger in the 2nd.
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last year thinking "please don't draft Weeden or another QB, let's give Colt some decent weapons and some time in an offense he now knows, with a full season behind him." Now I'll go to sleep thinking "please don't draft Smith or another QB, let's give Weeden some decent weapons and some time in an offense that suits him, with a full season behind him."
My thoughts exactly
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I have a hunch there may be a number of surprises before this draft is over. How many BPAs will be taken when talent level is so similar fairly deep once you get past the top 10 or so? This may turn into a "need based" draft throughout & some BPAs may drop somewhat. I guess we'll see this week.
Mike
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I have a hunch there may be a number of surprises before this draft is over. How many BPAs will be taken when talent level is so similar fairly deep once you get past the top 10 or so? This may turn into a "need based" draft throughout & some BPAs may drop somewhat. I guess we'll see this week.
Mike
I have a hunch there may be a number of surprises before this draft is over. How many BPAs will be taken when talent level is so similar fairly deep once you get past the top 10 or so? This may turn into a "need based" draft throughout & some BPAs may drop somewhat. I guess we'll see this week.
Mike
Isn't it that way every year?
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To a degree, but this year there doesn't seem to be any clear cut #1 at ANY position. The talent is that closely grouped. This year, even drafting for need is "iffy" because so much of the talent is equal. It's actually a great draft in which to trade down as you won't lose a lot by doing so, but who will trade down?
Mike
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