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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    http://quizlet.com/4566256/bill-of-rights-summary-flash-cards/

    Just for the, er, heck of it, how many of these do you think are still being enforced in the way they were originally intended?

    By the way this is by no means a rallying cry for anarchy, just a little reality.

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      The third seems s little pointless. I'm willing to bet there was forced quartering of soldiers on the civil war.

      The fifth and sixth seem like they could be combined into one rambling amendment from two.

      The eighth has been shit on but few people seem to care. Probably because its usually, but not always, happening to scumbags.

      Again, the civil war undoubtably took the teeth out of the tenth.

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        The third seems s little pointless. I'm willing to bet there was forced quartering of soldiers on the civil war.

        The fifth and sixth seem like they could be combined into one rambling amendment from two.

        The eighth has been shit on but few people seem to care. Probably because its usually, but not always, happening to scumbags.

        Again, the civil war undoubtably took the teeth out of the tenth.

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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        @the-cysko-kid said:

        The third seems s little pointless. I'm willing to bet there was forced quartering of soldiers on the civil war.

        The fifth and sixth seem like they could be combined into one rambling amendment from two.

        The eighth has been shit on but few people seem to care. Probably because its usually, but not always, happening to scumbags.

        Again, the civil war undoubtably took the teeth out of the tenth.

        true enough. I'd also bet eminent domain has taken the teeth out of number 3.

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          F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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          thanks for the "flash cards" !

          to me the Patriot Act seems to blur the lines in determining who the bad guy really is.

          but just serves to remind me to do some checking first before blindly believing what is said in the media.

          for example - remember http://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/obama-criminalize-free-speech/

          where we thought that protesting against Obama or whoever in public can get you arrested! not true

          I think what is good - is the sudden interest it seems, is in the liberties we have.

          the defense of which is very good when it becomes a public discussion, wherever it is.. here, facebook...

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            The 4th and 6th go by the wayside with a terrorist.

            The tenth has been walked on, ignored, and spit on by some dumbsheets

            regardless of party....

            but since Obamao....most all of his corrupt, marxist pig regime.

            All the Bill of Rights can be abused or attempted to be abused by those who think

            they have the power to do so.

            Our Bill of Rights is our guide to freedom - must be enforced eventually.

            But with the libs redefining terms to their own advantage (see Heck, historically), they

            just tweak the words, reinvent their own applications, and then they try to ban guns,

            label whatever gets them minority votes "hate speech"...

            our Founders KNEW it would always be a battle. They just fought the major battle themselves.

            Over the longer run, they knew the battle would still have to be fought. That's why they wrote what they wrote.

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              VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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              1 - Yes. Look no further than Westboro Baptist Church.

              2 - Yes. This amendment is basically a right of the people to revolt against the government.

              3 - Yes. This amendment is more or less the response to the Quartering Acts which made it required by law to house and feed standing British troops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartering_Acts

              4 - No. Patriot Act, NDAA, now CISPA

              5 - Yes.

              6 - No. Patriot Act

              7 - Yes. Plenty of cases get appealed to the SCOTUS

              8 - I'm leaning toward no. How can it be the law of the land if it doesn't apply to anyone deemed a terrorist?

              9 - Yes. Murder is not in the Constitution, that doesn't make it exempt.

              10 - Yes.

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                9 - Yes. Murder is not in the Constitution, that doesn't make it exempt.

                Vapor

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                Wait....murder isn't a "right"

                It's "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiiness".

                Murder defies the right to life.

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                  9 - Yes. Murder is not in the Constitution, that doesn't make it exempt.

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                  Wait....murder isn't a "right"

                  It's "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiiness".

                  Murder defies the right to life.

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                  VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  9 - Yes. Murder is not in the Constitution, that doesn't make it exempt.

                  Vapor

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                  Wait....murder isn't a "right"

                  It's "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiiness".

                  Murder defies the right to life.

                  "Life Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness" is not in the Constitution. And when I brought up murder I meant the right to not be murdered.

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    Didn't say it was. And I didn't know you meant the "right to NOT be murdered". Got it. The principle is rights, not the ability to

                    take rights away from someone else.

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                      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                      lol, cal, i'm certainly not going to argue that murder is a Constitutional right.

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                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                        http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html

                        I thought this was an interesting article.

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                          well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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                            You could probably write about it and not get into trouble, but you can bet you would be on a 'watch list'. Of course that probably wouldn't matter. Look at the Older of the Boston Bomber's.

                            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                              I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                I'm an ex-Browns Board con.

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                                  well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

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                                  VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

                                  WSS

                                  lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

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                                    I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

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                                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

                                    I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

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                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

                                      I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

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                                      @vaportrail said:

                                      I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

                                      Ah I see.

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

                                        WSS

                                        lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

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                                        @vaportrail said:

                                        lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

                                        I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

                                        I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

                                        let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

                                        the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

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                                          @vaportrail said:

                                          lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

                                          I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

                                          I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

                                          let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

                                          the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

                                          WSS

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                                          VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

                                          I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

                                          let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

                                          the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

                                          WSS

                                          Right, the government will do what it can to quash potential revolutionaries before they become real threats. For those things to become real threats, they will need the support of the general population. For the general population to support that extreme of a cause will require a governmental fuckup of colossal magnitude. As screwy as our political system is, we're not anywhere near that tipping point.

                                          There isn't a real threat of revolution until the government is incapable or appears to be incapable of giving people basic necessities. Food, water, a roof. The housing bubble might have been ugly, but it was nowhere near serious enough to cause the general public to revolt. It's going to be sparked by a much more severe national or international crisis such as running out of fossil fuels or a nuclear attack on major cities, both of which could disrupt the infrastructure enough that the people will have to start relying on smaller entities to survive.

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