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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    Didn't say it was. And I didn't know you meant the "right to NOT be murdered". Got it. The principle is rights, not the ability to

    take rights away from someone else.

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      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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      lol, cal, i'm certainly not going to argue that murder is a Constitutional right.

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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        http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html

        I thought this was an interesting article.

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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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          well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

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            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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            You could probably write about it and not get into trouble, but you can bet you would be on a 'watch list'. Of course that probably wouldn't matter. Look at the Older of the Boston Bomber's.

            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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              I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                I'm an ex-Browns Board con.

                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                • W Westside Steve

                  well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

                  WSS

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                  VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

                  WSS

                  lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

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                    I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

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                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

                    I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

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                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                      I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

                      I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

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                      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                      @vaportrail said:

                      I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

                      Ah I see.

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

                        WSS

                        lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

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                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                        @vaportrail said:

                        lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

                        I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

                        I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

                        let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

                        the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

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                        • W Westside Steve

                          @vaportrail said:

                          lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

                          I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

                          I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

                          let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

                          the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

                          WSS

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                          VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                          @westside-steve said:

                          I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

                          I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

                          let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

                          the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

                          WSS

                          Right, the government will do what it can to quash potential revolutionaries before they become real threats. For those things to become real threats, they will need the support of the general population. For the general population to support that extreme of a cause will require a governmental fuckup of colossal magnitude. As screwy as our political system is, we're not anywhere near that tipping point.

                          There isn't a real threat of revolution until the government is incapable or appears to be incapable of giving people basic necessities. Food, water, a roof. The housing bubble might have been ugly, but it was nowhere near serious enough to cause the general public to revolt. It's going to be sparked by a much more severe national or international crisis such as running out of fossil fuels or a nuclear attack on major cities, both of which could disrupt the infrastructure enough that the people will have to start relying on smaller entities to survive.

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            I imagine for throwing off the yoke of tyranny, there has to be dramtic tyranny. The pres would have to

                            disband Congress and the SCOTUS, and declare himself dictator, and start genocide against the American people.

                            That is so ridiculous,....

                            but if it ever did happen? The American people had better have their guns intact.

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