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  • well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

    WSS

  • You could probably write about it and not get into trouble, but you can bet you would be on a 'watch list'. Of course that probably wouldn't matter. Look at the Older of the Boston Bomber's.

  • I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

  • I'm an ex-Browns Board con.

  • well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

    WSS

    lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

  • I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

    I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I just noticed none of you other guys have "warning points" under your names. That means I successfully drove Mr. T to e-suicide. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that.

    I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

    @vaportrail said:

    I have em too. I think they only show up for yourself.

    Ah I see.

  • @westside-steve said:

    well let's look at the First Amendment. Back in the Revolutionary days when what we now call Patriots were writing articles and pamphlets and flyers and whatever about how we need to overthrow the king they were getting locked up.so, since Revolution was a big thing to them, one of the basic rightsthey wanted to write into law was the right to call for armed revolution. Does anyone think they could get away with that today?

    WSS

    lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

    @vaportrail said:

    lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

    I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

    I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

    let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

    the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

    WSS

  • @vaportrail said:

    lol, well, if you take a look at dredge report during Obama or huffpo during W, then I think it's safe to say most whatever the hell you want about taking back the country. Ted Nugent's tirade when asked about being a draft dodger I'm pretty sure resulted in some sort of investigation by the secret service. What he said was very controversial, but he's not in jail for it.

    I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

    I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

    let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

    the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I'm not talking about a little bit controversial.

    I'm talking about actually rallying the citizens to take up arms against the United States government and the president.that, I believe, will get you thrown in the can.

    let's say one of us writes apost about going to whatever enemy country we pick and destroying their capital. No problem, who cares? Now let's say we do the same thing speaking of the White House.

    the founders weren't writing seditious articles about freedoms that were being taken away by the lawful government, they were talking about armed Revolution.

    WSS

    Right, the government will do what it can to quash potential revolutionaries before they become real threats. For those things to become real threats, they will need the support of the general population. For the general population to support that extreme of a cause will require a governmental fuckup of colossal magnitude. As screwy as our political system is, we're not anywhere near that tipping point.

    There isn't a real threat of revolution until the government is incapable or appears to be incapable of giving people basic necessities. Food, water, a roof. The housing bubble might have been ugly, but it was nowhere near serious enough to cause the general public to revolt. It's going to be sparked by a much more severe national or international crisis such as running out of fossil fuels or a nuclear attack on major cities, both of which could disrupt the infrastructure enough that the people will have to start relying on smaller entities to survive.

  • I imagine for throwing off the yoke of tyranny, there has to be dramtic tyranny. The pres would have to

    disband Congress and the SCOTUS, and declare himself dictator, and start genocide against the American people.

    That is so ridiculous,....

    but if it ever did happen? The American people had better have their guns intact.