Business As Usual In Cleveland
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If you don't have the addict gene then it doesn't matter what you do.
The description of "very addictive" only describes the attachment level for people who get addicted. I've smoked, drank, but I'm not addicted.. not because I'm magical or the drug isn't addictive, but because it's just not going to happen to me. Or, PG, it seems, to you. It's people who actually need 12-step who are the issue.
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TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.
TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.
For once we agree. Weed and cocaine may be psychologically addictive, but they're not physically addictive- you quit those, you don't go through withdrawal. (Heavy) boozing, cigarettes (nicotine), or opiates ARE physically addictive- do those for any length of time, and you WILL have withdrawal symptoms.
One book from way back- Licit and Illicit Drugs- put the addiction potential of cigarettes right behind heroin.
& Unsympathetic- I wouldn't push your luck. Yes there is such a thing as an addictive personality, but just because you don't have it, doesn't mean you can't eventually get hooked on something. Family history has more than a little to do with it, don't remember the exact odds, but if one parent is an alcoholic, your odds of becoming one go up. If both parents are your odds go WAY up.
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TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.
For once we agree. Weed and cocaine may be psychologically addictive, but they're not physically addictive- you quit those, you don't go through withdrawal. (Heavy) boozing, cigarettes (nicotine), or opiates ARE physically addictive- do those for any length of time, and you WILL have withdrawal symptoms.
One book from way back- Licit and Illicit Drugs- put the addiction potential of cigarettes right behind heroin.
& Unsympathetic- I wouldn't push your luck. Yes there is such a thing as an addictive personality, but just because you don't have it, doesn't mean you can't eventually get hooked on something. Family history has more than a little to do with it, don't remember the exact odds, but if one parent is an alcoholic, your odds of becoming one go up. If both parents are your odds go WAY up.
"For once we agree. Weed and cocaine may be psychologically addictive, but they're not physically addictive- you quit those, you don't go through withdrawal. (Heavy) boozing, cigarettes (nicotine), or opiates ARE physically addictive- do those for any length of time, and you WILL have withdrawal symptoms."
Nothing like Mary Jane to bring the folks together!
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.
For once we agree. Weed and cocaine may be psychologically addictive, but they're not physically addictive- you quit those, you don't go through withdrawal. (Heavy) boozing, cigarettes (nicotine), or opiates ARE physically addictive- do those for any length of time, and you WILL have withdrawal symptoms.
One book from way back- Licit and Illicit Drugs- put the addiction potential of cigarettes right behind heroin.
& Unsympathetic- I wouldn't push your luck. Yes there is such a thing as an addictive personality, but just because you don't have it, doesn't mean you can't eventually get hooked on something. Family history has more than a little to do with it, don't remember the exact odds, but if one parent is an alcoholic, your odds of becoming one go up. If both parents are your odds go WAY up.
For once we agree. Weed and cocaine may be psychologically addictive, but they're not physically addictive- you quit those, you don't go through withdrawal. (Heavy) boozing, cigarettes (nicotine), or opiates ARE physically addictive- do those for any length of time, and you WILL have withdrawal symptoms.
One book from way back- Licit and Illicit Drugs- put the addiction potential of cigarettes right behind heroin.
& Unsympathetic- I wouldn't push your luck. Yes there is such a thing as an addictive personality, but just because you don't have it, doesn't mean you can't eventually get hooked on something. Family history has more than a little to do with it, don't remember the exact odds, but if one parent is an alcoholic, your odds of becoming one go up. If both parents are your odds go WAY up.
Not that I have any first hand experience but you can become pretty dope sick from coming off a cocaine bender. js
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TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.
For once we agree. Weed and cocaine may be psychologically addictive, but they're not physically addictive- you quit those, you don't go through withdrawal. (Heavy) boozing, cigarettes (nicotine), or opiates ARE physically addictive- do those for any length of time, and you WILL have withdrawal symptoms.
One book from way back- Licit and Illicit Drugs- put the addiction potential of cigarettes right behind heroin.
& Unsympathetic- I wouldn't push your luck. Yes there is such a thing as an addictive personality, but just because you don't have it, doesn't mean you can't eventually get hooked on something. Family history has more than a little to do with it, don't remember the exact odds, but if one parent is an alcoholic, your odds of becoming one go up. If both parents are your odds go WAY up.
if one parent is an alcoholic, your odds of becoming one go up. If both parents are your odds go WAY up.
very very true. and this is my point THOUGH. my father was a hard core alcoholic who once he found out he had lung cancer turned to other medication, opiates etc. but mostly MJ to ease the pain from chemo. you would think that the way i am now is because of some gene passed down from generation to generation BUT the fact of the matter is me and my twin brother were both adopted. so there IS NO genealogical passing of the tides cancer alcoholism etc.
it was the 20 years of upbringing from such people that made me turn to a nice cold cocktail after selling a 5M pitch to marlboro and any other clients we had at the time. instant gratification is what i gleened from the whole middle-class sandusky ohio upbringing. that and be a shitty dad. the same way kids are brought up to be racists or whatever societal ailment you can tag on them.
you have to make your own way in this world and to people like mathieu, who i wished we had picked, have a long road ahead of them trying to right the wrongs of what they've seen, lived and thought to be ok.
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"For once we agree. Weed and cocaine may be psychologically addictive, but they're not physically addictive- you quit those, you don't go through withdrawal. (Heavy) boozing, cigarettes (nicotine), or opiates ARE physically addictive- do those for any length of time, and you WILL have withdrawal symptoms."
Nothing like Mary Jane to bring the folks together!
Nothing like Mary Jane to bring the folks together!
throwin on some 'RICK JAMES......... bitches' as i type.
gonna be a nice easzy nite (if ya know what i mean).
edit: and for those not familiar...check out the old 'soul alive' clip:
still a testament to how white people can't dance and how bad old lip synch shows used to be.
i didn't know it was possible to have dreads, gerri curls and bangs all at the same time???????
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TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.
TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.
Go back and read what I said again, idiot.
EDIT: it seems I'm the idiot. I meant to say that its easier to quit smoking weed than it is cigarettes, and he still couldn't do that.
My fault.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Nothing like Mary Jane to bring the folks together!
throwin on some 'RICK JAMES......... bitches' as i type.
gonna be a nice easzy nite (if ya know what i mean).
edit: and for those not familiar...check out the old 'soul alive' clip:
still a testament to how white people can't dance and how bad old lip synch shows used to be.
i didn't know it was possible to have dreads, gerri curls and bangs all at the same time???????
throwin on some 'RICK JAMES......... bitches' as i type.
gonna be a nice easzy nite (if ya know what i mean).
edit: and for those not familiar...check out the old 'soul alive' clip:
still a testament to how white people can't dance and how bad old lip synch shows used to be.
i didn't know it was possible to have dreads, gerri curls and bangs all at the same time???????
Rick definitely had some skills. Charlie Murphy said Rick used to bitch slap Prince every chance he had.
Mik, I may have asked you before, but do you live near Storm Mountain, NY?
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TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.
Go back and read what I said again, idiot.
EDIT: it seems I'm the idiot. I meant to say that its easier to quit smoking weed than it is cigarettes, and he still couldn't do that.
My fault.
Go back and read what I said again, idiot.
EDIT: it seems I'm the idiot. I meant to say that its easier to quit smoking weed than it is cigarettes, and he still couldn't do that.
My fault.
No problem. Yeah, I read mine again too... if it came off as "assholish" I didn't mean it that way. -
throwin on some 'RICK JAMES......... bitches' as i type.
gonna be a nice easzy nite (if ya know what i mean).
edit: and for those not familiar...check out the old 'soul alive' clip:
still a testament to how white people can't dance and how bad old lip synch shows used to be.
i didn't know it was possible to have dreads, gerri curls and bangs all at the same time???????
Rick definitely had some skills. Charlie Murphy said Rick used to bitch slap Prince every chance he had.
Mik, I may have asked you before, but do you live near Storm Mountain, NY?
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Rick definitely had some skills. Charlie Murphy said Rick used to bitch slap Prince every chance he had.
Mik, I may have asked you before, but do you live near Storm Mountain, NY?
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live like 5 miles south from the tappan zee bridge on the westchester side of the hudson. why wanna grab a beer sometime? i've got friends that live in depsosit, ny and another next to the outlet store in the 84/17 exchange. anywhere close? sounds like the adirondacks to me, which is beautiful country but a long ride for me.
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Mik, the mountain is on the west bank south of Cornwall-on-Hudson.
Heck yea, I am all in for hanging out and drinking some beers and maybe a few shots..
What could possibley go wrong?
I live in central OH. I used to rep for company in Storm Mt that manufactured and marketed bacterial enzymes for waste water treatment plants.
Next time you head home to Sandusky lets hook up for some fishing and/or some partying. I can hang with the best of them. lol
Or, if I get to the city anytime soon we can hang.
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Mik, the mountain is on the west bank south of Cornwall-on-Hudson.
Heck yea, I am all in for hanging out and drinking some beers and maybe a few shots..
What could possibley go wrong?
I live in central OH. I used to rep for company in Storm Mt that manufactured and marketed bacterial enzymes for waste water treatment plants.
Next time you head home to Sandusky lets hook up for some fishing and/or some partying. I can hang with the best of them. lol
Or, if I get to the city anytime soon we can hang.
Mik, the mountain is on the west bank south of Cornwall-on-Hudson.
Heck yea, I am all in for hanging out and drinking some beers and maybe a few shots..
What could possibley go wrong?
I live in central OH. I used to rep for company in Storm Mt that manufactured and marketed bacterial enzymes for waste water treatment plants.
Next time you head home to Sandusky lets hook up for some fishing and/or some partying. I can hang with the best of them. lol
Or, if I get to the city anytime soon we can hang.
bet. pleez email me throught my profile. awesome!
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Y have the browns not signed titus young yet? That is a Lombardi type of guy right there!!!!
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Y have the browns not signed titus young yet? That is a Lombardi type of guy right there!!!!
Y have the browns not signed titus young yet? That is a Lombardi type of guy right there!!!!
I think because perhaps he is under contract to another team?
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OooooK gimp this was a joke. I don't really want the browns to sign this guy. But follow up question what team does he play for currently?I think because perhaps he is under contract to another team?
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I saw an article the other day saying that there's a chance that Cribbs might resign back here in Cleveland! I think my heart actually skipped a beat, we need the Cribby Cribbster to take it to the Hizzy every now and again! Yeah, yeah- Benjamin has the potential to take it up the field but he's only done it once, he's not proven and Cribbs was on the field at the time... distraction anyone? I guess I'd just feel better if Cribbs were still here, he'll still be a threat for a couple of years at least, he might be slowing down but still.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I saw an article the other day saying that there's a chance that Cribbs might resign back here in Cleveland! I think my heart actually skipped a beat, we need the Cribby Cribbster to take it to the Hizzy every now and again! Yeah, yeah- Benjamin has the potential to take it up the field but he's only done it once, he's not proven and Cribbs was on the field at the time... distraction anyone? I guess I'd just feel better if Cribbs were still here, he'll still be a threat for a couple of years at least, he might be slowing down but still.
I saw an article the other day saying that there's a chance that Cribbs might resign back here in Cleveland! I think my heart actually skipped a beat, we need the Cribby Cribbster to take it to the Hizzy every now and again! Yeah, yeah- Benjamin has the potential to take it up the field but he's only done it once, he's not proven and Cribbs was on the field at the time... distraction anyone? I guess I'd just feel better if Cribbs were still here, he'll still be a threat for a couple of years at least, he might be slowing down but still.
Not might...He has slowed down.
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I saw an article the other day saying that there's a chance that Cribbs might resign back here in Cleveland! I think my heart actually skipped a beat, we need the Cribby Cribbster to take it to the Hizzy every now and again! Yeah, yeah- Benjamin has the potential to take it up the field but he's only done it once, he's not proven and Cribbs was on the field at the time... distraction anyone? I guess I'd just feel better if Cribbs were still here, he'll still be a threat for a couple of years at least, he might be slowing down but still.
I saw an article the other day saying that there's a chance that Cribbs might resign back here in Cleveland! I think my heart actually skipped a beat, we need the Cribby Cribbster to take it to the Hizzy every now and again! Yeah, yeah- Benjamin has the potential to take it up the field but he's only done it once, he's not proven and Cribbs was on the field at the time... distraction anyone? I guess I'd just feel better if Cribbs were still here, he'll still be a threat for a couple of years at least, he might be slowing down but still.
Go away
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I saw an article the other day saying that there's a chance that Cribbs might resign back here in Cleveland! I think my heart actually skipped a beat, we need the Cribby Cribbster to take it to the Hizzy every now and again! Yeah, yeah- Benjamin has the potential to take it up the field but he's only done it once, he's not proven and Cribbs was on the field at the time... distraction anyone? I guess I'd just feel better if Cribbs were still here, he'll still be a threat for a couple of years at least, he might be slowing down but still.
I saw an article the other day saying that there's a chance that Cribbs might resign back here in Cleveland! I think my heart actually skipped a beat, we need the Cribby Cribbster to take it to the Hizzy every now and again! Yeah, yeah- Benjamin has the potential to take it up the field but he's only done it once, he's not proven and Cribbs was on the field at the time... distraction anyone? I guess I'd just feel better if Cribbs were still here, he'll still be a threat for a couple of years at least, he might be slowing down but still.
This regime wants to move on from Cribbs regardless of how good he may or may not be.
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