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This Is Your Democrat Obamaocare Train Wreck

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  • T The Cysko Kid

    Yeah, except I already have insurance. Oops. It doesn't apply to me. Also, yeah, my job can't be outsourced to China because, ha ha, every single city mandates that every business needs my services in some way. So. Sucks to be you unskilled folks, I guess.

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    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Yeah, except I already have insurance. Oops. It doesn't apply to me. Also, yeah, my job can't be outsourced to China because, ha ha, every single city mandates that every business needs my services in some way. So. Sucks to be you unskilled folks, I guess.

    It will apply to you when your premiums go up. Who do you think will underwrite this single payer plan?

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      @the-cysko-kid said:

      Yeah, except I already have insurance. Oops. It doesn't apply to me. Also, yeah, my job can't be outsourced to China because, ha ha, every single city mandates that every business needs my services in some way. So. Sucks to be you unskilled folks, I guess.

      It will apply to you when your premiums go up. Who do you think will underwrite this single payer plan?

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      @legacy-fan said:

      It will apply to you when your premiums go up. Who do you think will underwrite this single payer plan?

      You mean without obamacare my premiums have been going down? Newsflash legacy, they raise the premiums at every single opportunity. You deal with insurance you should know that.

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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      • T The Cysko Kid

        Wait you mean we're NOT going to sing the 'I'm so sorry' song together? Man, you're soaked in Egypt.

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        @the-cysko-kid said:

        Wait you mean we're NOT going to sing the 'I'm so sorry' song together? Man, you're soaked in Egypt.

        Shut up stupid. You invented the Egyptian super soaker

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          @the-cysko-kid said:

          Wait you mean we're NOT going to sing the 'I'm so sorry' song together? Man, you're soaked in Egypt.

          Shut up stupid. You invented the Egyptian super soaker

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          @mld-woody said:

          Shut up stupid. You invented the Egyptian super soaker

          Nice

          Aaaaaand /thread

          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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            Do my own research? All I have to do is turn on my computer. I have line item GL, PR, and balance sheet access at my current hospital and have copies of the same from my previous hospitals.

            1) The premium you are charged by Wall Street - aka your insurance company - has absolutely zero correlation to the cost they pay hospitals and doctors for the care you receive. So, when they increase your premium.. that is because they look for excuses to increase the cash they are siphoning from you into their pockets, not because they are seeing an increase in their bills.

            2) The contracts negotiated between hospitals and insurance companies have not changed -- despite the lies you are assuming as truth.

            3) CMS [aka Medicare, aka the US government] is the basis for 100% of all insurance reimbursement.

            You are being lied to by the Republican party - because they are the party of the Wall Street insurance companies. The expenses of health care insurance companies are not changing. However, those companies are increasing your premium vastly more than inflation. ACA is a giveaway to insurance companies -- and nothing more. It's not socialized medicine -- not even close.

            The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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              a couple of comments if I may.

              even though there are various systems world wide this is most certainly a great deal like socialized medicine.

              since the Supreme Court found the buy in included in the mandate to be a tax and that tax is being used to subsidize a service for other citizens I don't know what else you might call it.

              and doesn't it seem odd that those who rail against wall Street are the same ones to boast about the president's policies when the Dow hits a new high?

              for the record the greatest part of my father's savings is in insurance backed annuities as well as a portion of mine, soon to be more.

              I'm certainly hoping that my return will be better then whatever the government is getting for Social Security. in other words I guess I'm saying I hope Wall Street continues to prosper. Don't you?

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                @legacy-fan said:

                It will apply to you when your premiums go up. Who do you think will underwrite this single payer plan?

                You mean without obamacare my premiums have been going down? Newsflash legacy, they raise the premiums at every single opportunity. You deal with insurance you should know that.

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                @the-cysko-kid said:

                You mean without obamacare my premiums have been going down? Newsflash legacy, they raise the premiums at every single opportunity. You deal with insurance you should know that.

                No newsflash here. Just saying 'wait & see' the increases you'll start to see with OC added.

                Remember when we didn't get "fuel surcharge" on everything we purchased?

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                  The problem is, the interference in the private sector med insurance area, that Obamaocare brings with it.

                  That alone will drive premiums up. And, that is by intent of the Obamaocare people.

                  Here:

                  1. macare: A Toxic Remedy | The American Conservative
                    www.theamericanconservative.com/.../obamacare...remedy/comment-pa...‎
                    3 days ago – But they reasoned that as the benefits started to kick in, Obamacarewould become more popular. .... How about undoing the “medical progress” of the last 100+ ... Those with private group insurance from employers probably won't see .... and more govt. interference in our lives while all the drones cheer.
                  2. The Obamacare Revolt: Physicians Fight Back Against the ...
                    reason.com/archives/.../the-obamacare-revolt-physician-fight-ba...‎
                    by Jim Epstein - in 73 Google+ circles
                    Mar 13, 2013 – Politicians and Private Lives ... This is happening just as the federal government is poised to interfere with the health care market in many new and ... Health "insurance" is more than just insurance; it's also "a payment plan for ... have also led to the "bureaucratization of medical care," Friedman wrote in a ...
                  3. [PDF] What's Wrong with Obamacare? Download PDF - Fort Wayne 9-12
                    www.fortwayne912.com/.../what_s_wrong_with_obamacare_FortWayne...‎
                    costs;" "improve care with computerized medical records." What is not to ...Obamacare dictates the care of everyone, including the privately insured. Doctors will no ... Either your body is protected from government interference or it's not. The ...
                  4. Medical Loss Ratio Requirement Could Raise Insurer Profits
                    www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=23107‎
                    Apr 26, 2013 – The Medical Loss Ratio formula calculates the amount leftover for ... of people will be eligible for ObamaCare subsidies to cover private insurance ... Byinterfering with the insurance industry, ObamaCare may raise health care ...
                  5. Smoking: A Pre-existing Condition Under Obamacare ...
                    wondergressive.com/.../smoking-a-pre-existing-condition-under-obamac...‎
                    Apr 12, 2013 – So charging smokers more for medical insurance isn't conducive to helping ... that we have a private system in which private consumers buy insurancefrom ... incredibly perverse incentives to interfere with the lives of adults.
                  6. Is the passing of ObamaCare bad for the American public? – Debate ...
                    www.debate.org › Opinions › Health‎
                    Obamacare will by law, allow these unqualified medical people to practice ... Medicare already pays 50% less than private insurance, doctors are starting to not ...... When the government interferes with the economy it takes away money from it ...
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                  • T The Cysko Kid

                    Yeah, except I already have insurance. Oops. It doesn't apply to me. Also, yeah, my job can't be outsourced to China because, ha ha, every single city mandates that every business needs my services in some way. So. Sucks to be you unskilled folks, I guess.

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                    W White Dog wrote on last edited by White Dog
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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    Yeah, except I already have insurance. Oops. It doesn't apply to me. Also, yeah, my job can't be outsourced to China because, ha ha, every single city mandates that every business needs my services in some way. So. Sucks to be you unskilled folks, I guess.

                    You have mad skills little man. Now finish the job we pay you to perform you lazy bastard.

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                    • W Westside Steve

                      a couple of comments if I may.

                      even though there are various systems world wide this is most certainly a great deal like socialized medicine.

                      since the Supreme Court found the buy in included in the mandate to be a tax and that tax is being used to subsidize a service for other citizens I don't know what else you might call it.

                      and doesn't it seem odd that those who rail against wall Street are the same ones to boast about the president's policies when the Dow hits a new high?

                      for the record the greatest part of my father's savings is in insurance backed annuities as well as a portion of mine, soon to be more.

                      I'm certainly hoping that my return will be better then whatever the government is getting for Social Security. in other words I guess I'm saying I hope Wall Street continues to prosper. Don't you?

                      WSS

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      a couple of comments if I may.

                      even though there are various systems world wide this is most certainly a great deal like socialized medicine.

                      since the Supreme Court found the buy in included in the mandate to be a tax and that tax is being used to subsidize a service for other citizens I don't know what else you might call it.

                      and doesn't it seem odd that those who rail against wall Street are the same ones to boast about the president's policies when the Dow hits a new high?

                      for the record the greatest part of my father's savings is in insurance backed annuities as well as a portion of mine, soon to be more.

                      I'm certainly hoping that my return will be better then whatever the government is getting for Social Security. in other words I guess I'm saying I hope Wall Street continues to prosper. Don't you?

                      WSS

                      When corporations are able to cut the costs on labor you will see new all time highs on Wall Street. With Obamacare in place we now have a good reason to cut out fulltime employee benefits. This will not only happen in the private sector you will also see this happen with city employees.

                      People are stupid.

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                        New Obamacare Tax Form Mandates Americans Report Personal Health ID Info to IRS

                        Here's why the IRS will require Americans to disclose their personal health ID information starting in 2014

                        When Obamacare’s individual mandate takes effect in 2014, all Americans who file income tax returns must complete an additional IRS tax form. The new form will require disclosure of a taxpayer’s personal identifying health information in order to determine compliance with the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate.

                        As confirmed by IRS testimony to the tax-writing House Committee on Ways and Means, “taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and/or making a payment”.

                        So why will the Obama IRS require your personal identifying health information?

                        Simply put, there is no way for the IRS to enforce Obamacare’s individual mandate without such an invasive reporting scheme. Every January, health insurance companies across America will send out tax documents to each insured individual. This tax document—a copy of which will be furnished to the IRS—must contain sufficient information for taxpayers to prove that they purchased qualifying health insurance under Obamacare.

                        Read more: http://atr.org/new-obamacare-tax-form-mandates-americans-a7285#ixzz2TF7dydo5

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