Minicamp Reports, 5-23
-
I heard on the radio that Richardson may have, again, come down with a nagging injury. WTF.
-
strained shin muscle.. wouldn't be too concerned with the season damn near 3 1/2 months away.
-
Keep him out of training camp so (for once) we can watch him perform at 100% during the first quarter of the Dolphins game.
)
-
- Mary Kay says Weeden looks sharper than last week, beautiful deep ball.
- As expected, Pinkston starting at LG and Greco at RG today. I'd wanna get Greco in the lineup, too. He was fantastic last year.
- Hoyer sounds confident, already playing well.
- Mary Kay says Weeden looks sharper than last week, beautiful deep ball.
- As expected, Pinkston starting at LG and Greco at RG today. I'd wanna get Greco in the lineup, too. He was fantastic last year.
- Hoyer sounds confident, already playing well.
Just wonderful to hear Pinkston is right at it. That is very important and good news for the Browns.
Also good news, but under the radar, is the fact OT Chris Faulk was on the field. You are going to hear a lot about Faulk in the coming years. He's going to be a good one.
Browns now may have their best depth since the 90s on the offensive line. We now have good depth at OL, DL, RB, QB, LB, but it's the opposite at TE and in the secondary. Can't figure that strategy out on the part of Lombardi et al.
-
Tony Grossi reported that Weeden looked better than he has ever seen him look.
Throwing a beautiful ball downfield, improved footwork,not patting the ball. He says
anyone watching practice has no doubt who the starter is at QB right now.
-
Tony Grossi reported that Weeden looked better than he has ever seen him look.
Throwing a beautiful ball downfield, improved footwork,not patting the ball. He says
anyone watching practice has no doubt who the starter is at QB right now.
Tony Grossi reported that Weeden looked better than he has ever seen him look.
Throwing a beautiful ball downfield, improved footwork,not patting the ball. He says
anyone watching practice has no doubt who the starter is at QB right now.
A year of experience....a really decent tutor in Norv/Chud....and perhaps a little competition from Campbell and Hoyer may help BW3.
One thing we know is that Hoyer is a "pet" of Lombardi's. To me, Hoyer is a below average at best NFL QB...and that is not to slight him. He seems the kind of guy to be a steady backup. But, to Lombardi, if he falls in love with a guy, it doesn't matter how good he is.
Clearly he fell in love with Mingo....but yes, certainly that choice can be questioned, but hopefully Lombardi hasn't screwed the pooch with it. But with Hoyer, it is stars in his eyes. Lombardi cannot see his deficiencies because of his crush on the guy.
Weeden is responding to that....and showing the guys that count what hopefully he is made of.....Chud/Norv/Farmer/Banner...maybe even Haslam.
-
Among NFL QBs, Weeden ranked 39th out of 40 QBs in snaps from the shotgun. Amazing for a guy who never took a snap from center in college, or almost never. How the Browns looked at Weeden and saw the right guy for a very old fashioned WCO, I'll never know. Shurmur is said to have preferred Kirk Cousins.
Chorv likes the shotgun, running it like 75% of the time. That alone should make Weeden way more comfortable. The bigger question is how he handles pressure and whether he has the dreaded "slow eyes," lack of anticipation, but being comfortable might accelerate his growth in those areas. Sure sounds logical.
He missed a lot of deep balls last year, a waste of truly fantastic arm talent. He's "The Natural" at throwing a ball of any kind, apparently. But he did say he missed throws he hadn't missed in his life so I'm reading between the lines that he felt out of sorts based on the offense and perhaps young WRs not being where he expected them to be.
-
One of Weeds better passes last season from under center.
50 yard toss with some juice and accuracy
I think he has the physical attributes for the job.......release, strength, size ok. Mobility still a big ?
Needs to improve in huddle presence and confidence. Jury still out on if he has the leadership potential. Hopefully, if there, the new regime can
tap into it
-
One of Weeds better passes last season from under center.
50 yard toss with some juice and accuracy
I think he has the physical attributes for the job.......release, strength, size ok. Mobility still a big ?
Needs to improve in huddle presence and confidence. Jury still out on if he has the leadership potential. Hopefully, if there, the new regime can
tap into it
One of Weeds better passes last season from under center.
50 yard toss with some juice and accuracy
I think he has the physical attributes for the job.......release, strength, size ok. Mobility still a big ?
Needs to improve in huddle presence and confidence. Jury still out on if he has the leadership potential. Hopefully, it there, the new regime can tap into it
Sweet. That is what we hope to see a lot of out of him....and Gordon and his other receivers in the future.
-
Tony Grossi reported that Weeden looked better than he has ever seen him look.
Throwing a beautiful ball downfield, improved footwork,not patting the ball. He says
anyone watching practice has no doubt who the starter is at QB right now.
Tony Grossi reported that Weeden looked better than he has ever seen him look.
Throwing a beautiful ball downfield, improved footwork,not patting the ball. He says
anyone watching practice has no doubt who the starter is at QB right now.
Ah, the wonders of no contact football in shorts! I remember the days when Charley Frye looked great this time of the year! But I do expect a better Weeden this year.
Really disappointing the Browns don't have a quality TE Weeden can take advantage like other QBs in the AFC North do. It's almost like tying one hand behind Weeden's back. The difference in quality between the Browns starting TE and the starter TEs on the other three AFC North teams is so striking it's beyond belief!
-
Tony Grossi reported that Weeden looked better than he has ever seen him look.
Throwing a beautiful ball downfield, improved footwork,not patting the ball. He says
anyone watching practice has no doubt who the starter is at QB right now.
Ah, the wonders of no contact football in shorts! I remember the days when Charley Frye looked great this time of the year! But I do expect a better Weeden this year.
Really disappointing the Browns don't have a quality TE Weeden can take advantage like other QBs in the AFC North do. It's almost like tying one hand behind Weeden's back. The difference in quality between the Browns starting TE and the starter TEs on the other three AFC North teams is so striking it's beyond belief!
Skeptical2013 said:
Ah, the wonders of no contact football in shorts! I remember the days when Charley Frye looked great this time of the year! But I do expect a better Weeden this year.
Really disappointing the Browns don't have a quality TE Weeden can take advantage like other QBs in the AFC North do. It's almost like tying one hand behind Weeden's back. The difference in quality between the Browns starting TE and the starter TEs on the other three AFC North teams is so striking it's beyond belief!
I would have preferred us to grab a TE too but I also think we have some guys than can play that position. Don't sleep on Barnidge either, he is going to make some plays this year I believe. And Cameron is going to be targetted a LOT. Just look at the Panthers last season and they had Steve Smith, but Olson was used over and over again. If Cameron can catch and run good routes look out.
-
It's like you've never heard of young players developing and improving.
I wish we had a coaching staff that knew something about how to use tight ends.
Zombo
Zombo said:
It's like you've never heard of young players developing and improving.
I wish we had a coaching staff that knew something about how to use tight ends.
Zombo
Uh, Jordan Cameron was in his second year last year and did zilch. And his backup, now playing because Cameron is hurt, was called "Stone Hands" in chicago and he is not a young, developing TE. Neither is the third string TE guy from the Carolina Panthers who averaged, what, one catch a season over a period of several years?
Browns are probably worse at TE than they are in the secondary!!!! I'll have to do a survey to see if the Browns have the worst TE corps in pro football. They probably do!
-
Skeptical2013 said:
Ah, the wonders of no contact football in shorts! I remember the days when Charley Frye looked great this time of the year! But I do expect a better Weeden this year.
Really disappointing the Browns don't have a quality TE Weeden can take advantage like other QBs in the AFC North do. It's almost like tying one hand behind Weeden's back. The difference in quality between the Browns starting TE and the starter TEs on the other three AFC North teams is so striking it's beyond belief!
I would have preferred us to grab a TE too but I also think we have some guys than can play that position. Don't sleep on Barnidge either, he is going to make some plays this year I believe. And Cameron is going to be targetted a LOT. Just look at the Panthers last season and they had Steve Smith, but Olson was used over and over again. If Cameron can catch and run good routes look out.
I would have preferred us to grab a TE too but I also think we have some guys than can play that position. Don't sleep on Barnidge either, he is going to make some plays this year I believe. And Cameron is going to be targetted a LOT. Just look at the Panthers last season and they had Steve Smith, but Olson was used over and over again. If Cameron can catch and run good routes look out.
I like the idea, mentioned on this board yesterday, that they'll Nelson in pass receiving TE role this season. That would be great!
-
Zombo said:
It's like you've never heard of young players developing and improving.
I wish we had a coaching staff that knew something about how to use tight ends.
Zombo
Uh, Jordan Cameron was in his second year last year and did zilch. And his backup, now playing because Cameron is hurt, was called "Stone Hands" in chicago and he is not a young, developing TE. Neither is the third string TE guy from the Carolina Panthers who averaged, what, one catch a season over a period of several years?
Browns are probably worse at TE than they are in the secondary!!!! I'll have to do a survey to see if the Browns have the worst TE corps in pro football. They probably do!
Skeptical2013 said:
Uh, Jordan Cameron was in his second year last year and did zilch. And his backup, now playing because Cameron is hurt, was called "Stone Hands" in chicago and he is not a young, developing TE. Neither is the third string TE guy from the Carolina Panthers who averaged, what, one catch a season over a period of several years?
Browns are probably worse at TE than they are in the secondary!!!! I'll have to do a survey to see if the Browns have the worst TE corps in pro football. They probably do!
You go do that ... go do a survey.
Take as much time as you need.
Then take another one after the season when he have some results from these tight ends in this offense.
Zombo
-
Tony Grossi reported that Weeden looked better than he has ever seen him look.
Throwing a beautiful ball downfield, improved footwork,not patting the ball. He says
anyone watching practice has no doubt who the starter is at QB right now.
Ah, the wonders of no contact football in shorts! I remember the days when Charley Frye looked great this time of the year! But I do expect a better Weeden this year.
Really disappointing the Browns don't have a quality TE Weeden can take advantage like other QBs in the AFC North do. It's almost like tying one hand behind Weeden's back. The difference in quality between the Browns starting TE and the starter TEs on the other three AFC North teams is so striking it's beyond belief!
Skeptical2013 said:
Ah, the wonders of no contact football in shorts! I remember the days when Charley Frye looked great this time of the year! But I do expect a better Weeden this year.
Really disappointing the Browns don't have a quality TE Weeden can take advantage like other QBs in the AFC North do. It's almost like tying one hand behind Weeden's back. The difference in quality between the Browns starting TE and the starter TEs on the other three AFC North teams is so striking it's beyond belief!
I would say that only as it applies to the Bengals....and if Heath Miller is Heath Miller and not Grandpa Miller. And the Ravens still have both of their TEs, Dickson and Pitta unsigned RFAs.
Even so, though in my AFCN Unit Rankings thread I had the Browns ranked last at TE...that was only if the Ravens signed their guys...the gap isn't that wide.
First off, Norv Turner knows how to coach TEs. He had Antonio Gates at SD and Frank Wycheck...or was it Jay Novacek...or both in Dallas. He can get the best out of a TE.
Secondly, I think Cameron can be a key guy. And reports out of camp are saying that Barnidge is looking a lot better than anyone expected. Yes, I know, it is just guys in shorts. Still, that's the report.
-
Zombo said:
It's like you've never heard of young players developing and improving.
I wish we had a coaching staff that knew something about how to use tight ends.
Zombo
Uh, Jordan Cameron was in his second year last year and did zilch. And his backup, now playing because Cameron is hurt, was called "Stone Hands" in chicago and he is not a young, developing TE. Neither is the third string TE guy from the Carolina Panthers who averaged, what, one catch a season over a period of several years?
Browns are probably worse at TE than they are in the secondary!!!! I'll have to do a survey to see if the Browns have the worst TE corps in pro football. They probably do!
Skeptical2013 said:
Uh, Jordan Cameron was in his second year last year and did zilch. And his backup, now playing because Cameron is hurt, was called "Stone Hands" in chicago and he is not a young, developing TE. Neither is the third string TE guy from the Carolina Panthers who averaged, what, one catch a season over a period of several years?
Browns are probably worse at TE than they are in the secondary!!!! I'll have to do a survey to see if the Browns have the worst TE corps in pro football. They probably do!
I laughd cause you litterally copied and pasted this out of another topic you previously posted it on.
To counter your point, Barnidge has actually been lighting it up so far when given the oppertunity. People said that he has only had one ball fall incomplete so far, even when going against the first team defense. He has been winning all his one on one matches against the defense.
The guy is a 4 year player but he has actually only played two full seasons, and one one healthy season. I believe in his 2nd season he suffered from some kind of back injury that required surgery and then his 3rd year he broke his leg so bad that he wasn't actually fully healed until after last season. As long as this guy stays healthy I think he is going to surprise people, espessially since the team decided to give him a 3 year deal.
-
Skeptical2013 said:
Uh, Jordan Cameron was in his second year last year and did zilch. And his backup, now playing because Cameron is hurt, was called "Stone Hands" in chicago and he is not a young, developing TE. Neither is the third string TE guy from the Carolina Panthers who averaged, what, one catch a season over a period of several years?
Browns are probably worse at TE than they are in the secondary!!!! I'll have to do a survey to see if the Browns have the worst TE corps in pro football. They probably do!
I laughd cause you litterally copied and pasted this out of another topic you previously posted it on.
To counter your point, Barnidge has actually been lighting it up so far when given the oppertunity. People said that he has only had one ball fall incomplete so far, even when going against the first team defense. He has been winning all his one on one matches against the defense.
The guy is a 4 year player but he has actually only played two full seasons, and one one healthy season. I believe in his 2nd season he suffered from some kind of back injury that required surgery and then his 3rd year he broke his leg so bad that he wasn't actually fully healed until after last season. As long as this guy stays healthy I think he is going to surprise people, espessially since the team decided to give him a 3 year deal.
I laughd cause you litterally copied and pasted this out of another topic you previously posted it on.
To counter your point, Barnidge has actually been lighting it up so far when given the oppertunity. People said that he has only had one ball fall incomplete so far, even when going against the first team defense. He has been winning all his one on one matches against the defense.
The guy is a 4 year player but he has actually only played two full seasons, and one one healthy season. I believe in his 2nd season he suffered from some kind of back injury that required surgery and then his 3rd year he broke his leg so bad that he wasn't actually fully healed until after last season. As long as this guy stays healthy I think he is going to surprise people, espessially since the team decided to give him a 3 year deal.
So, a guy who Chud coached in Carolina and did nothing on the receiving end there is going to burst forth and be an outstanding receiver. Wow. Hope you're right!
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login