Seriously? Another Running Back?
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Skeptical2013 said:
I didn't realize the Browns had any playmakers! Oh, I exaggerate -- maybe Gordon a bit, and Richardson the few moments when he is healthy and a little Benjamin in running back punts.
Browns offense would have benefited tremendously from an explosive player like Austin who is going to create sleepless nights for many an NFL defensive coordinator. Let's face it, the Browns really don't have any players on offense that really worry a defensive coordinator (maybe TRich a bit, but he's always hurt) and that shows in the low point output for the team year after year. Browns need to change the paradigm with their offense and Austin would have made that happen. Not now, for the most part, although having Turner and Chud involved does help becuae Shurmr was pathetic.
Who's Austin? And why is he more of a playmaker than Richardson, Gordon, Little and Benjamin?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Who's Austin? And why is he more of a playmaker than Richardson, Gordon, Little and Benjamin?
Zombo
Actually, (Steve) Austin is the Six Million Dollar Man. He was played by Lee Majors in that TV show. Maybe that's why T. Austin is so good.
Another Austin is Kurt, who is the lead character in a series of novels that Clive Clusser, one of my favs, writes.
Then there is Austin, Texas. It's a shame that Tavon Austin wasn't named Austin Austin and be from Austin, Texas.
Makes me wonder: with his big new contract, will T. Austin drive an Austin Healey?
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Zombo said:
Who's Austin? And why is he more of a playmaker than Richardson, Gordon, Little and Benjamin?
Zombo
Actually, (Steve) Austin is the Six Million Dollar Man. He was played by Lee Majors in that TV show. Maybe that's why T. Austin is so good.
Another Austin is Kurt, who is the lead character in a series of novels that Clive Clusser, one of my favs, writes.
Then there is Austin, Texas. It's a shame that Tavon Austin wasn't named Austin Austin and be from Austin, Texas.
Makes me wonder: with his big new contract, will T. Austin drive an Austin Healey?
Skeptical2013 said:
Actually, (Steve) Austin is the Six Million Dollar Man. He was played by Lee Majors in that TV show. Maybe that's why T. Austin is so good.
Another Austin is Kurt, who is the lead character in a series of novels that Clive Clusser, one of my favs, writes.
Then there is Austin, Texas. It's a shame that Tavon Austin wasn't named Austin Austin and be from Austin, Texas.
Makes me wonder: with his big new contract, will T. Austin drive an Austin Healey?
Sorry, I don't follow you much outside of your replies to my posts, or threads I am active in, you're kind of an idiot.
Are you saying we should have taken Tavon Austin at #6?
Wouldn't we still go 0-16 anyway because we have no depth at safety?
Zombo
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There are questions about his strength. Bob Golic brought it up recently. Mingo will hit the weight room, alright.
But compared to Wimbley, he has far more strength. I was just referring to a few folks that thought of Mingo and Wimbley being
a lot the same player. They aren't.
"“Mingo looks almost too lean to handle the physicality of NFL linemen, but has surprising strength to go along with the elite length and straight-line speed to rack up double-digit sack numbers (he had eight in 2011) and track down ball carriers (15 tackles for loss) as a 3-4 rush linebacker at the next level. He is a proverbial boom or bust prospect. Mingo’s production dropped as a junior, and he failed to show much overall growth in his game over the course of his career. However, KeKe flashed the talent and projectable skills to be a dominant NFL pass rusher, and a position switch will likely serve him well, as the LSU Tiger was too often asked to play in a tight alignment on the strong side in college a poor use of his strengths. Mingo’s length, athleticism, and pass rush talent figure to make him a top 20 selection in the draft.” – NFL.com"
Very good post, thanks for contributing it. My concern with Mingo is that when I watched LSU games last year -- and down here in SEC country I saw at least snippets from most of them -- is that he got pushed out of the way a lot. This will be a real challenge for Ray Horton and the staff. Mingo seems to have a good head on his shoulders -- very mature in contrast to Geno Smith -- and he knows his weaknesses better than anyone else. But one big advantage Horton has is that Mingo will be a great pupil and fast learner. That's just who he is. And that means a lot given all Horton will ask him to do.
It also says something about Mingo that his LSU teammate, Chris Faulk, who was in big demand around the league, decided to sign with Cleveland because he thinks so highly of his buddy Mingo. Don't underestimate the value of having Faulk come here -- he's going to be a big time contributor on the Browns OL.
Skeptical2013 said:
Very good post, thanks for contributing it. My concern with Mingo is that when I watched LSU games last year -- and down here in SEC country I saw at least snippets from most of them -- is that he got pushed out of the way a lot. This will be a real challenge for Ray Horton and the staff. Mingo seems to have a good head on his shoulders -- very mature in contrast to Geno Smith -- and he knows his weaknesses better than anyone else. But one big advantage Horton has is that Mingo will be a great pupil and fast learner. That's just who he is. And that means a lot given all Horton will ask him to do.
It also says something about Mingo that his LSU teammate, Chris Faulk, who was in big demand around the league, decided to sign with Cleveland because he thinks so highly of his buddy Mingo. Don't underestimate the value of having Faulk come here -- he's going to be a big time contributor on the Browns OL.
WOW, a worthwhile contribution. Maybe you won't need that time out after all.
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And I am the guy telling you that sure maybe Tavon Austin will be a terrific player....or he may be Charles Rogers. And I am the guy that is telling you that the Browns had far higher priorities than small, 3rd string WR/KR...because they already had a fairly similar guy on their roster in Benjamin. And I am the guy telling you that if the Browns hadn't gone for Mingo, they certainly would not have gone for Austin.....Dee Milliner would have been a far more likely choice.
And I am the guy telling you that the Browns Defensive backfield has probably one of the top 5-10 CBs in the league in Joe Haden, and one of the top 5-15 SS in the league in TJ Ward....and it has a promising young #2 CB in Leon McFadden, and a promising young FS in Tashaun Gipson.
And I am the guy telling you that even if McFadden and Gipson are "lower tier" DBs....say rated 16-30, this defensive backfield is still the best in the division....and would still be in the top 10 or 12 in the league.
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
Skeptical2013 said:
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
So, what you want this team to have is a secondary that is 8 deep in Pro Bowlers. Wake up. That isn't going to happen. Sure McFadden...just like every rookie drafted from #1 overall to Mr. Irrelevent, is a question mark. That is why they are called rookies.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
What is Bizarre is that you think that. The Browns have the best Strong safety in the AFCN...and another guy that they must think is better than some 4th or 5th rounder that you think should have been drafted. A guy that has a year under his belt of actually playing in the NFofL. A guy they can evaluate who has played against the Steelers and Bengals, not against Louisana-Atchafalaya or whomever the SEC pads their records against.
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And they got an undersized DE who's never played OLB in his life.
Great move. Tim Couch***************************************
Pretty much was a great move. Demarcus Ware always played on the dl. Mingo has ALL the qualities to
become a terrific success like Ware did. Ware made the transition - and Mingo will be "set free" to utilize
his excellent physical abilities to the max at 3-4 OLB, like Ware did. Mingo was used mostly in a tight formation,
strong side - not a best case position or setup to dramatically boost his numbers.
The comparison to Wimbley, btw, doesn't work. Mingo has the strength, outstanding agility and speed,
that Wimbley never had.
I think he is going to be terrific. Can't wait to see him take the field.
And they got an undersized DE who's never played OLB in his life.
Great move. Tim Couch
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Pretty much was a great move. Demarcus Ware always played on the dl. Mingo has ALL the qualities to
become a terrific success like Ware did. Ware made the transition - and Mingo will be "set free" to utilize
his excellent physical abilities to the max at 3-4 OLB, like Ware did. Mingo was used mostly in a tight formation,
strong side - not a best case position or setup to dramatically boost his numbers.
The comparison to Wimbley, btw, doesn't work. Mingo has the strength, outstanding agility and speed,
that Wimbley never had.
I think he is going to be terrific. Can't wait to see him take the field.
It only doesn't work because it doesn't fit with your stance.
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Skeptical2013 said:
Very good post, thanks for contributing it. My concern with Mingo is that when I watched LSU games last year -- and down here in SEC country I saw at least snippets from most of them -- is that he got pushed out of the way a lot. This will be a real challenge for Ray Horton and the staff. Mingo seems to have a good head on his shoulders -- very mature in contrast to Geno Smith -- and he knows his weaknesses better than anyone else. But one big advantage Horton has is that Mingo will be a great pupil and fast learner. That's just who he is. And that means a lot given all Horton will ask him to do.
It also says something about Mingo that his LSU teammate, Chris Faulk, who was in big demand around the league, decided to sign with Cleveland because he thinks so highly of his buddy Mingo. Don't underestimate the value of having Faulk come here -- he's going to be a big time contributor on the Browns OL.
WOW, a worthwhile contribution. Maybe you won't need that time out after all.
WOW, a worthwhile contribution. Maybe you won't need that time out after all.
So it's only worthwhile because you agree with it?
That's the problem with this board
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WOW, a worthwhile contribution. Maybe you won't need that time out after all.
So it's only worthwhile because you agree with it?
That's the problem with this board
So it's only worthwhile because you agree with it?
That's the problem with this board
More like humanity
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Skeptical2013 said:
Actually, (Steve) Austin is the Six Million Dollar Man. He was played by Lee Majors in that TV show. Maybe that's why T. Austin is so good.
Another Austin is Kurt, who is the lead character in a series of novels that Clive Clusser, one of my favs, writes.
Then there is Austin, Texas. It's a shame that Tavon Austin wasn't named Austin Austin and be from Austin, Texas.
Makes me wonder: with his big new contract, will T. Austin drive an Austin Healey?
Sorry, I don't follow you much outside of your replies to my posts, or threads I am active in, you're kind of an idiot.
Are you saying we should have taken Tavon Austin at #6?
Wouldn't we still go 0-16 anyway because we have no depth at safety?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Sorry, I don't follow you much outside of your replies to my posts, or threads I am active in, you're kind of an idiot.
Are you saying we should have taken Tavon Austin at #6?
Wouldn't we still go 0-16 anyway because we have no depth at safety?
Zombo
Why don't you grow up and stop acting like a jerk. Same goes for your blood brother Gipper.
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Skeptical2013 said:
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
So, what you want this team to have is a secondary that is 8 deep in Pro Bowlers. Wake up. That isn't going to happen. Sure McFadden...just like every rookie drafted from #1 overall to Mr. Irrelevent, is a question mark. That is why they are called rookies.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
What is Bizarre is that you think that. The Browns have the best Strong safety in the AFCN...and another guy that they must think is better than some 4th or 5th rounder that you think should have been drafted. A guy that has a year under his belt of actually playing in the NFofL. A guy they can evaluate who has played against the Steelers and Bengals, not against Louisana-Atchafalaya or whomever the SEC pads their records against.
Skeptical2013 said:
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
So, what you want this team to have is a secondary that is 8 deep in Pro Bowlers. Wake up. That isn't going to happen. Sure McFadden...just like every rookie drafted from #1 overall to Mr. Irrelevent, is a question mark. That is why they are called rookies.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
What is Bizarre is that you think that. The Browns have the best Strong safety in the AFCN...and another guy that they must think is better than some 4th or 5th rounder that you think should have been drafted. A guy that has a year under his belt of actually playing in the NFofL. A guy they can evaluate who has played against the Steelers and Bengals, not against Louisana-Atchafalaya or whomever the SEC pads their records against.
Some people are high on TJ Ward. In my view he's a little overrated, plus he gets hurt a lot. But the difference in talent level between Patterson of Arizona and Ward is like night and day.
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Skeptical2013 said:
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
So, what you want this team to have is a secondary that is 8 deep in Pro Bowlers. Wake up. That isn't going to happen. Sure McFadden...just like every rookie drafted from #1 overall to Mr. Irrelevent, is a question mark. That is why they are called rookies.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
What is Bizarre is that you think that. The Browns have the best Strong safety in the AFCN...and another guy that they must think is better than some 4th or 5th rounder that you think should have been drafted. A guy that has a year under his belt of actually playing in the NFofL. A guy they can evaluate who has played against the Steelers and Bengals, not against Louisana-Atchafalaya or whomever the SEC pads their records against.
Some people are high on TJ Ward. In my view he's a little overrated, plus he gets hurt a lot. But the difference in talent level between Patterson of Arizona and Ward is like night and day.
Skeptical2013 said:
Skeptical2013 said:
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
So, what you want this team to have is a secondary that is 8 deep in Pro Bowlers. Wake up. That isn't going to happen. Sure McFadden...just like every rookie drafted from #1 overall to Mr. Irrelevent, is a question mark. That is why they are called rookies.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
What is Bizarre is that you think that. The Browns have the best Strong safety in the AFCN...and another guy that they must think is better than some 4th or 5th rounder that you think should have been drafted. A guy that has a year under his belt of actually playing in the NFofL. A guy they can evaluate who has played against the Steelers and Bengals, not against Louisana-Atchafalaya or whomever the SEC pads their records against.
Some people are high on TJ Ward. In my view he's a little overrated, plus he gets hurt a lot. But the difference in talent level between Patterson of Arizona and Ward is like night and day.
Considering that they play different positions, that should be expected.
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Skeptical2013 said:
Skeptical2013 said:
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
So, what you want this team to have is a secondary that is 8 deep in Pro Bowlers. Wake up. That isn't going to happen. Sure McFadden...just like every rookie drafted from #1 overall to Mr. Irrelevent, is a question mark. That is why they are called rookies.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
What is Bizarre is that you think that. The Browns have the best Strong safety in the AFCN...and another guy that they must think is better than some 4th or 5th rounder that you think should have been drafted. A guy that has a year under his belt of actually playing in the NFofL. A guy they can evaluate who has played against the Steelers and Bengals, not against Louisana-Atchafalaya or whomever the SEC pads their records against.
Some people are high on TJ Ward. In my view he's a little overrated, plus he gets hurt a lot. But the difference in talent level between Patterson of Arizona and Ward is like night and day.
Considering that they play different positions, that should be expected.
Considering that they play different positions, that should be expected.
Re Ward and Patterson, I'm just talking about overall atheltic ability and playmaking ability.
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Skeptical2013 said:
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
So, what you want this team to have is a secondary that is 8 deep in Pro Bowlers. Wake up. That isn't going to happen. Sure McFadden...just like every rookie drafted from #1 overall to Mr. Irrelevent, is a question mark. That is why they are called rookies.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
What is Bizarre is that you think that. The Browns have the best Strong safety in the AFCN...and another guy that they must think is better than some 4th or 5th rounder that you think should have been drafted. A guy that has a year under his belt of actually playing in the NFofL. A guy they can evaluate who has played against the Steelers and Bengals, not against Louisana-Atchafalaya or whomever the SEC pads their records against.
Some people are high on TJ Ward. In my view he's a little overrated, plus he gets hurt a lot. But the difference in talent level between Patterson of Arizona and Ward is like night and day.
Skeptical2013 said:
Skeptical2013 said:
And I am the guy telling you that if Ward, Haden, Gipson and McFadden get hurt, there is nothing behind them of quality, and that includes in nickel and dime packages, too. Owens is a stiff, like Dimitri Patterson. Besides which you overestimate the impact of McFadden this coming season, who in his rookie year, is going to struggle, especially against bigger receivers . Over time McFadden may turn out to be a fine CB, but rookie CBs usually struggle, unlesss their name is Patrick Patterson.
So, what you want this team to have is a secondary that is 8 deep in Pro Bowlers. Wake up. That isn't going to happen. Sure McFadden...just like every rookie drafted from #1 overall to Mr. Irrelevent, is a question mark. That is why they are called rookies.
I think it's interesting that Arizona, Horton's last team, went out and got a tremendously athletic safety in Patterson who played a key role in making Horton's defense good last year. But the Browns don't seem to emphasize the position in this defense. Bizarre.
What is Bizarre is that you think that. The Browns have the best Strong safety in the AFCN...and another guy that they must think is better than some 4th or 5th rounder that you think should have been drafted. A guy that has a year under his belt of actually playing in the NFofL. A guy they can evaluate who has played against the Steelers and Bengals, not against Louisana-Atchafalaya or whomever the SEC pads their records against.
Some people are high on TJ Ward. In my view he's a little overrated, plus he gets hurt a lot. But the difference in talent level between Patterson of Arizona and Ward is like night and day.
As I have noted, my biggest concern is lack of any kind of quality in the backups at the DB and safety positions. We remember how bad Dimitri Patterson was last year. We'll see a repeat of that with Owens, who is not highly thought of around the league. T. Wade and B. Skrine? They both stink with a capital S.
Some people on this board believe a mediocre secondary is OK given a better pass rush. I hope they are thinking about that as Owens, Wade and Skrine get torched week after week.
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Considering that they play different positions, that should be expected.
Re Ward and Patterson, I'm just talking about overall atheltic ability and playmaking ability.
Skeptical2013 said:
Re Ward and Patterson, I'm just talking about overall atheltic ability and playmaking ability.
Considering one was the 7th overall pick and another was a 2nd round pick, that should be expected.
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Skeptical2013 said:
Re Ward and Patterson, I'm just talking about overall atheltic ability and playmaking ability.
Considering one was the 7th overall pick and another was a 2nd round pick, that should be expected.
Considering one was the 7th overall pick and another was a 2nd round pick, that should be expected.
Patterson also was a big time impact player in college and made first team all america. I'd point out that Philip Thomas, the safety from Fresno State the Browns could have gotten in the 4th round, also was a first team all america last year. Who was the other first team all america at safety? It was Elam, the great safety from Florida, who was the first draft pick of the .... Ravens.
Turning to a different area, I'd also point out that Mingo didn't even make first team all SEC and was missing from the APs first, second and third team all america team for defense, but his teammates Kevin Minter (LB), Sam Montgomery (DE) and Eric Reid (S) did make the team.
If Mingo didn't make a really big impact as a college player, can he make a big impact as a pro? That's a big question.
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And they got an undersized DE who's never played OLB in his life.
Great move. Tim Couch
***************************************
Pretty much was a great move. Demarcus Ware always played on the dl. Mingo has ALL the qualities to
become a terrific success like Ware did. Ware made the transition - and Mingo will be "set free" to utilize
his excellent physical abilities to the max at 3-4 OLB, like Ware did. Mingo was used mostly in a tight formation,
strong side - not a best case position or setup to dramatically boost his numbers.
The comparison to Wimbley, btw, doesn't work. Mingo has the strength, outstanding agility and speed,
that Wimbley never had.
I think he is going to be terrific. Can't wait to see him take the field.
It only doesn't work because it doesn't fit with your stance.
It only doesn't work because it doesn't fit with your stance.
No, as I don't know if I agree with it. At least it is not one of your idiotic rants on the secondary.
Here is the bottom line: YOU and I, and everyone else, are just going to have to wait and see how this all turns out with the secondary.
We are going to have to wait and see how these guys play. They may be the absolute buss that you think they are. They may both turn out to be Pro Bowlers. More than likely, it will be somewhere in between.
And there won't be a damn thing you can say...or do about it.
Unless you want to buy the team.
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Some people are high on TJ Ward. In my view he's a little overrated, plus he gets hurt a lot. But the difference in talent level between Patterson of Arizona and Ward is like night and day.
More like night and dusk.
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It only doesn't work because it doesn't fit with your stance.
No, as I don't know if I agree with it. At least it is not one of your idiotic rants on the secondary.
Here is the bottom line: YOU and I, and everyone else, are just going to have to wait and see how this all turns out with the secondary.
We are going to have to wait and see how these guys play. They may be the absolute buss that you think they are. They may both turn out to be Pro Bowlers. More than likely, it will be somewhere in between.
And there won't be a damn thing you can say...or do about it.
Unless you want to buy the team.
No, as I don't know if I agree with it. At least it is not one of your idiotic rants on the secondary.
Here is the bottom line: YOU and I, and everyone else, are just going to have to wait and see how this all turns out with the secondary.
We are going to have to wait and see how these guys play. They may be the absolute buss that you think they are. They may both turn out to be Pro Bowlers. More than likely, it will be somewhere in between.
And there won't be a damn thing you can say...or do about it.
Unless you want to buy the team.
Just thinking of the idea that Owens and Bademosi might turn out to be Pro Bowlers has me roilling on the floor in laughter! Thanks for comedic relief!
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And you've still got no proof that they [McFadden and Gipson] stink other than your blathering mindless assertion.
You're wrong.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
No, as I don't know if I agree with it. At least it is not one of your idiotic rants on the secondary.
Here is the bottom line: YOU and I, and everyone else, are just going to have to wait and see how this all turns out with the secondary.
We are going to have to wait and see how these guys play. They may be the absolute buss that you think they are. They may both turn out to be Pro Bowlers. More than likely, it will be somewhere in between.
And there won't be a damn thing you can say...or do about it.
Unless you want to buy the team.
Just thinking of the idea that Owens and Bademosi might turn out to be Pro Bowlers has me roilling on the floor in laughter! Thanks for comedic relief!
Skeptical2013 said:
Just thinking of the idea that Owens and Bademosi might turn out to be Pro Bowlers has me roilling on the floor in laughter! Thanks for comedic relief!
I am referring to McFadden and Gipson.
You are so obsessed by this, I think it is unhealthy.
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And you've still got no proof that they [McFadden and Gipson] stink other than your blathering mindless assertion.
You're wrong.
And you've still got no proof that they [McFadden and Gipson] stink other than your blathering mindless assertion.
You're wrong.
And what makes you right, if you don't mind mr asking?
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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