Richard Blum
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1. Do you think it is popular despite everything good about Duck Dynasty, then"?
2. Yes. But the kids I was referring to, were joining because they were patriotic. I said they
were very, very, very patriotic. That's three "verys" Woody. You will know when you are no longer
a liberal weinie when you FREAKIN STOP going the straw man route to try to make a point. Your #2 is based
on what doesn't exist.
3. I don't think so. Eventually, the tide will turn on that, were it to go national. Technically, it might if
4 or 5 Supreme Court justices somehow die (see Holder and Obamao maybe), and Obamao replaced
them before he left office.....
4. Some liberals grow and adjust. They become Americans first, and often become a lot, or at least somewhat conservative.
IOW's, there is no op to grow, if emotionally verbally acting out on cue is the rule. Which it is.
Liberals are locked into emotionally seeing issues. So, growing in understanding via knowledge and personal experiences
doesn't happen. That is why there are MANY really stupid prominent liberal quotes in that thread.
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Well... idk why I even tried
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I dont know if any one else is SICK and TIRED of these freakin social issues!!
for crying out loud... we (conservatives) have had ENOUGH of this BS, like gay marriage!
there are still people who are looking for jobs, dont have any money in the stock market,
looking at SS benefits being given freely to special interest, illegal immigrants , favor to the few.
And we have a corrupt legislative body operating in Washington DC for thier personal benefit?
And meanwhile... we have to pander to the poor gays? comeon......
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You agent pandering to them...
This plays back into the conservatives on this board. "It doesn't affect me, so we shouldn't waste time on it."
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Fair, ask yourself this. Should we have to pander to pro lifers?
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this is really about taking our eye off the ball.
Woody- its true, it doesnt affect me personally, and I wont pretend to think that any opposition to the gay agenda is helpful.
but by its design in the public discussion, it held alot of people "captive" unwittingly while these other really important issues still exist!
and it was all about the regimes campaign strategy...
point taken about prolife - although the unborn will never get as much attention and scope that the gays now enjoy....
and I am tempted to say, "well if Bush used prolife in his campaign..." it wouldnt matter anyway!
Im frustrated about "shipwrecked" lives of the recent recession - like yesterdays news....
forgotten by most but still affecting many.
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Seriously, Hooker nailed it. It's not that I hate gays.. I have a couple gay friends who I love like brothers. But can we get our freaking priorities straight? I am a student and aspire to become an engineer. The job market for computer engineers is pretty solid, yet my #1 concern is the economy. Note: it does not affect me as much yet I still give a damn. So there goes your horrible argument about "it doesn't affect me so we shouldn't worry about it."
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Since when were we as a country only allowed to work on one problem at a time? Especially when one could be solved by simple legislation and some people being more open to things different to them.
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What has Obama done that has helped homosexuals? I can't think of a damn thing. Instead that phoney said "I believe this" and gays jumped up and most voted for him. Meanwhile he and most of congress is crippling our economy and shackling us with regulation; all the meanwhile turning this country into a police state. It won't matter who is married to who if no one can make a decent living for themselves or if God forbid we ever become an enslaved society (and don't you fucking tell me "that won't happen")
As I said, it's all about priorities. Ours are completely backwards
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Enslaved society?
And I never mentioned Obama
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I dont know if any one else is SICK and TIRED of these freakin social issues!!
for crying out loud... we (conservatives) have had ENOUGH of this BS, like gay marriage!
there are still people who are looking for jobs, dont have any money in the stock market,
looking at SS benefits being given freely to special interest, illegal immigrants , favor to the few.
And we have a corrupt legislative body operating in Washington DC for thier personal benefit?
And meanwhile... we have to pander to the poor gays? comeon......
+1I dont know if any one else is SICK and TIRED of these freakin social issues!!
for crying out loud... we (conservatives) have had ENOUGH of this BS, like gay marriage!
there are still people who are looking for jobs, dont have any money in the stock market,
looking at SS benefits being given freely to special interest, illegal immigrants , favor to the few.
And we have a corrupt legislative body operating in Washington DC for thier personal benefit?
And meanwhile... we have to pander to the poor gays? comeon......
Hell yeah, can I get an amen!
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Seriously, Hooker nailed it. It's not that I hate gays.. I have a couple gay friends who I love like brothers. But can we get our freaking priorities straight? I am a student and aspire to become an engineer. The job market for computer engineers is pretty solid, yet my #1 concern is the economy. Note: it does not affect me as much yet I still give a damn. So there goes your horrible argument about "it doesn't affect me so we shouldn't worry about it."
Seriously, Hooker nailed it. It's not that I hate gays.. I have a couple gay friends who I love like brothers. But can we get our freaking priorities straight? I am a student and aspire to become an engineer. The job market for computer engineers is pretty solid, yet my #1 concern is the economy. Note: it does not affect me as much yet I still give a damn. So there goes your horrible argument about "it doesn't affect me so we shouldn't worry about it."
The state of our economy obviously affects you. You are a citizen of thus country.
Gays being allowed to get married, removing some mention of religion in schools, or allowing women to choose to have an abortion probably don't affect you nearly as directly.
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Seriously, Hooker nailed it. It's not that I hate gays.. I have a couple gay friends who I love like brothers. But can we get our freaking priorities straight? I am a student and aspire to become an engineer. The job market for computer engineers is pretty solid, yet my #1 concern is the economy. Note: it does not affect me as much yet I still give a damn. So there goes your horrible argument about "it doesn't affect me so we shouldn't worry about it."
The state of our economy obviously affects you. You are a citizen of thus country.
Gays being allowed to get married, removing some mention of religion in schools, or allowing women to choose to have an abortion probably don't affect you nearly as directly.
The state of our economy obviously affects you. You are a citizen of thus country.
Gays being allowed to get married, removing some mention of religion in schools, or allowing women to choose to have an abortion probably don't affect you nearly as directly.
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Woody changes all topics to the gay agenda. Hmmmmm........
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Woody if everything goes to plan for me I should be able to get a job that pays me well right out of college so the economy does not affect me as much, yet still I see a larger issue that requires in my opinion 100% of our attention. I just want to see most these social issues put on the back burner for a while so we can focus on maintaining a free and prosperous nation. Once that has been accomplished then I have no issue with congress debating social issues. Ya dig?
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Woody changes all topics to the gay agenda. Hmmmmm........
Woody changes all topics to the gay agenda. Hmmmmm........
And all you can do is point out typos and insinuate that I'm gay
Hmmmmmm.....
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Woody if everything goes to plan for me I should be able to get a job that pays me well right out of college so the economy does not affect me as much, yet still I see a larger issue that requires in my opinion 100% of our attention. I just want to see most these social issues put on the back burner for a while so we can focus on maintaining a free and prosperous nation. Once that has been accomplished then I have no issue with congress debating social issues. Ya dig?
Woody if everything goes to plan for me I should be able to get a job that pays me well right out of college so the economy does not affect me as much, yet still I see a larger issue that requires in my opinion 100% of our attention. I just want to see most these social issues put on the back burner for a while so we can focus on maintaining a free and prosperous nation. Once that has been accomplished then I have no issue with congress debating social issues. Ya dig?
Bro, I'm gonna be getting an engineering degree from Michigan, I'm not worried about a job either. The economy as a whole affects you more directly than these social issues.
Solving the social issues is theoretically much easier as well.
Plus, again, why are we as a couple try only allowed to work on one thing at a time?
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Seriously, Hooker nailed it. It's not that I hate gays.. I have a couple gay friends who I love like brothers. But can we get our freaking priorities straight? I am a student and aspire to become an engineer. The job market for computer engineers is pretty solid, yet my #1 concern is the economy. Note: it does not affect me as much yet I still give a damn. So there goes your horrible argument about "it doesn't affect me so we shouldn't worry about it."
The state of our economy obviously affects you. You are a citizen of thus country.
Gays being allowed to get married, removing some mention of religion in schools, or allowing women to choose to have an abortion probably don't affect you nearly as directly.
The state of our economy obviously affects you. You are a citizen of thus country.
Gays being allowed to get married, removing some mention of religion in schools, or allowing women to choose to have an abortion probably don't affect you nearly as directly.
Actually woody, and I'm not just messing with you, there are a lot of laws that don't affect me personally.
The libertarian in me would like to see lots of them just disregarded and kicked to the curb.
We can take up different issues and different threads especially because this one has really lost its way but that's one of the best reasons to not oppose gay marriage.
Because it doesn't make any difference to me if they get married or not.
There are no ill effects on my life if they choose to do so.
Maybe some people Would say it should be banned because it offends them.
Of course I don't think that we have a right, or at least that we should have a right, to not be offended.
And the reason people keep bringing up Obama is because the empty suit opposed gay marriage when it was politically advantageous for him. That's all.
But again this was a thread about political cronyism.
WSS
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Woody if everything goes to plan for me I should be able to get a job that pays me well right out of college so the economy does not affect me as much, yet still I see a larger issue that requires in my opinion 100% of our attention. I just want to see most these social issues put on the back burner for a while so we can focus on maintaining a free and prosperous nation. Once that has been accomplished then I have no issue with congress debating social issues. Ya dig?
Bro, I'm gonna be getting an engineering degree from Michigan, I'm not worried about a job either. The economy as a whole affects you more directly than these social issues.
Solving the social issues is theoretically much easier as well.
Plus, again, why are we as a couple try only allowed to work on one thing at a time?
Bro, I'm gonna be getting an engineering degree from Michigan, I'm not worried about a job either. The economy as a whole affects you more directly than these social issues.
Solving the social issues is theoretically much easier as well.
Plus, again, why are we as a couple try only allowed to work on one thing at a time?
Of course it affects people like you and I more than social issues, but hopefully we won't be feeling the squeeze like so many people are. I see no progress being made on the economy and until I do I believe social issues don't need to be taking up congress' time.
Look at it this way:
You have two problems that need to be solved. One has to do with life or death of a large percentage of the population and the other has to do with giving a small percentage a title just so they can feel more official. Which requires your immediate and undivided attention? Life or death, economy, ensuring people have steady jobs so they can afford food and other things essential to life. It is not that you cannot work on both at once, you can, but I would personally rather see congress secure the nations future before they work on giving gays a title.
I would like to leave it at that because I feel this is just you and I butting heads on the issue. Let's agree to disagree?
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