Irs Scandal Gets Closer To The Wh...
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Here's the key section:
"What did Issa prove? His two new witnesses were Elizabeth Hofacre, a 14-year employee of the IRS based in the infamous Cincinnati office, and Carter Hull, a D.C. IRS staffer. The big revelation was that Hull took his concerns about the IRS's BOLO lists to—hold your breath—the chief counsel of the IRS, a White House appointee. And he did so in 2011!
One problem: Anyone reading the available IG research on the IRS investigation already knew about this. Two full months ago, the IG report mentioned that IRS "Rulings and Agreements office personnel held a meeting with Chief Counsel so that everyone would have the latest information," back in August 2011. So Issa didn't have anything new. He was repacking a revelation that didn't get a ton of attention in May because it seemed like a weak connection to the White House."
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Yes, he told Fox that he had a big bombshell revelation and we all needed to tune in ...and then he told us something we already knew, something that's not even scandalous. They asked the lawyers to look at it. (Dear God, no!!)
But hey, remember. This is theater. And theater doesn't have to be true. It's just got to convince people like Cal that it's true. And that's not very hard to do.
But maybe it's time you stopped trusting the guy who used to engage in theft and insurance fraud to be on the up and up.
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Sorry, Heckbunker, but you are a dishonest moron. You diss Drudge, and you quote articles from moveon.orgy, solon, and
now Slate?
Really? You lost cred years ago, when you insisted that Bill Clinton never had sex with that woman, that is was
just all a witch hunt by the Republicans.
Dredge up the past is all you have? That isn't much, meathead. The current news is bad for your honey bear president.
He's a failure, a lying blowhard, and a community Horganizer. Say, the Obamaocare you loved so much? Now, even Dems in Congress
and major unons all over the country are po'd at the failure.
And, Zimmerman was definately going to be found NOT GUILTY, you hopingformanslaughter politically dense wingnut.
I will say this about you that is positive, you spell correctly, and you add a lot to this forum when you are gone on vacation. That's
legitimately called "addition by subtraction"......you Dumbass sumbeech. There's a hell of a lot more legitimacy about
Benghazi, Fast and Furious, IRS and Zimmerman trial interference and subsidy of anti-Zimmerman rallies scandals than
there is with your nanny fraud man made goober warning bs. Have a nice really hot day.
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I must have missed hecks demand for a full and thorough investigation.
to be fair I've been out of town...
WSS
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No, you were here for it. It was weeks ago. You want to see?
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Here's me suggesting that we need to investigate this three times in one thread. Here, here, and here. And me correctly predicting the outcome here.
And that's not the only place. I can remember doing it in an earlier thread, suggesting that if these charges were true people shouldn't only be fired, they should go to jail. Should I dig up that for you too?
As a bonus, you can even see where Cal says he knows it was "Senior White House advisors."
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If I recall correctly, I suggested a special prosecutor since something stinks here (and I don't trust the DOJ in particular) but you seemed to be dead set against that.
and you did predict that it would be nothing beyond a couple rogue flunkeys and a paperwork snafu.
WSS
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Yes, he did. He most always runs from what he said in the past. He either quibbles and dribbles about what
the "real" meaning of words are, or he goes on vacation, and comes back triumphantly, hoping nobody
remembers him being stupidly wrong in the past.
Meanwhile, all Congress has to do, I found out, is to subpoena those survivors of Benghazi who were told to
sign NDA's on Benghazi in a huge coverup, and they MUST testify before Congress regardless.
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If I recall correctly, I suggested a special prosecutor since something stinks here (and I don't trust the DOJ in particular) but you seemed to be dead set against that.
and you did predict that it would be nothing beyond a couple rogue flunkeys and a paperwork snafu.
WSS
If I recall correctly, I suggested a special prosecutor since something stinks here (and I don't trust the DOJ in particular) but you seemed to be dead set against that.
and you did predict that it would be nothing beyond a couple rogue flunkeys and a paperwork snafu.
WSS
You really don't have to poorly surmise my arguments when you can look them up, or when I look them up for you.
I said at the time that this needed to be investigated and that if the allegations were true people should not only be fired, but go to jail. As we learned more, I said that this doesn't look like the initial allegations were going to turn out to be true, and they haven't. I also said the Republicans would overplay their hand on something that was likely far less scandalous than they imagine, and that's also been the case.
Only in this bizarro world do you guys imagine you've been proven right and I've been proven wrong.
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Again, look at this one from early June, Steve. Now contrast that with the predictions of the right, or the wingers on this board. Who ended up being right?
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Wow. That's as classy a backtracking cya than heckbunker has ever managed before.
He's been....practicing with an expert....
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Once again, I've entered the up-is-down world of The Browns Board, where being measured and correct is "backtracking" and saying this came directly from Holder and Obama to punish their political enemies is seen as truth telling.
As my Irish grandmother used to say, "Lord, help those men."
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Honestly, go look at Fox News right now.
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Nobody said it came from Holder and Obamao.
Ever. Those two are doing everything they can to stop us from knowing what really happened,
apparently, with the NDA's, bluster by Clinton and Clapper et all.
Yeah, I went to Fox News. There's nothing there to discredit the desire to get
answers about Benghazi. Every scandal is the same with you, heckbunker - "DON'T LOOK BEHIND THAT CURTAIN,
OF COURSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE"
So, let's look behind the curtain. Fair enough, to get you to criticize the coverup now?
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Nobody said it came from Holder and Obamao.
Ever. Those two are doing everything they can to stop us from knowing what really happened,
apparently, with the NDA's, bluster by Clinton and Clapper et all.
Yeah, I went to Fox News. There's nothing there to discredit the desire to get
answers about Benghazi. Every scandal is the same with you, heckbunker - "DON'T LOOK BEHIND THAT CURTAIN,
OF COURSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE"
So, let's look behind the curtain. Fair enough, to get you to criticize the coverup now?
Nobody said it came from Holder and Obamao.
Ever.
Cal, in June: "With Holder having lied to Congress about it...and all the many, many times the head of the IRS metwith Obamao at the WH?Face it. Holder AND Obamao should resign, and take Biden with them.For a start. They and their cronies have stunk up our gov profoundly. And I do mean "PROFOUNDLY".Don't give the rest of us who care about our country the usual "well, Bush wasn't perfect".This isn't a matter of perfect or political disagreement. This is corruption at the worst in American history.Obamao and co. act like they have a mandate to become authoritarians, and they will do anything to keep thatpower." -
Think how far you guys have moved the goalposts from the original claims of this scandal. At first it was that you believed that someone in the political arm of the White House had directed the targeting of conservative groups by the IRS to help win an election. Some, including you Steve, suggested Obama was involved, but would simply claim he didn't know. (Because hey, you accused the Obama political arm of obviously manipulating the Benghazi talking points, and you sure were right about that!) Or that Holder was involved. Or that they were both involved. But you knew someone was directing this thing out of the White House.
Fast forward a couple months...
Now the right is trying to claim that, okay, maybe conservative groups weren't the only ones targeted, and that progressive groups were targeted as well. But conservative groups were targeted more. And sure, maybe it wasn't necessarily political, and that this was carried out by IRS agent who are self-described Republicans. BUT! We know that the head of the legal affairs section of the IRS is a political appointee, and that the legal affairs office was brought in for clarification on how to deal with all of these new groups, so ....is that close enough to the White House for ya?
It's really getting pathetic.
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Yes it us.
Pathetic.
Spin on.
WSS
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Ah, the Browns Board. Where reality is spin, and mindless spit-flying insanity passes for truth.
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