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  • Teams usually only dress five unless one guy is secretly a ST player.

    The Browns clear five are Gordon, Little, Bess, Benjamin, and Nelson... assuming health. A sixth roster spot goes to... Josh Cooper? But some (including Grossi) have made the point that there are so many other guys who like the slot (Bess, Nelson, Gordon), do you keep a PURE slot like Cooper? Or do you make that sixth guy (who only dresses in emergency) someone with a higher upside? I know there's intrigue about Gurley perhaps evolving into a TE/WR hybrid, for instance.

    My gut says Cooper ends up making it because of his relationship with Weeds... and he's a good player. So does one of those other guys stick temporarily, for those two games? It's not absolutely necessary. You just bump #6 to #5 and let him dress (like Cooper, for instance).

    First two games are GREAT opportunities for Benjamin, who really intrigues Chorv... and Jordan Cameron.

  • Litte improved dramatically the second half of last season. Hopefully he keeps it up this year.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • I dont know that this regime is the kind that would let a guy hang around just for having a relationship with another player.

    2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8
  • P pl4tinum

    I dont know that this regime is the kind that would let a guy hang around just for having a relationship with another player.

    @pl4tinum said:

    I dont know that this regime is the kind that would let a guy hang around just for having a relationship with another player.

    Depends on the "relationship"... 😉

    I still maintain that the "unexpected" competition from Gordon for #1 WR is what prompted Little's improvement last year.

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  • S Shep

    There's a WR out there somewhere who might be on the team for two regular season games, then gone.

    @shep said:

    There's a WR out there somewhere who might be on the team for two regular season games, then gone.

    Not sure if you are replying to me or not....I think Roosevelt stuck entire seasons.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Gurley is an intriguing big body. A hybrid WR/TE role would likely suit him well.

  • There's no excuses for Weeden. He has a terrific, kick ass oline, a nice upgraded wr core,

    te's (Cameron may very well become a star, I think), Richardson and the rest of the rb's...(I want to see Lewis play...),

    an aggressive system, with aggressive coaches.

    I hope he doesn't feel the pressure...but it's going to be there. Everything is in place now, for him to shine in a dramatic way.

    And the front seven on defense? That's scary stuff for any opposing offense they play. I imagine the NFL qb's who face

    this Browns front seven on a third and long, aren't going to have much time to make a play.

    The question of how many wr's will they keep and which ones, confounds me. But it's a great, new problem for the Browns to have.

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Gordon,Little, Nelson,Benji, and Bess are the keepers. A toss up on one of the others because 6 is the number IMO.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • Don't forget Jordan Norwood. His experience and consistency put him as probably the #6 receiver. All of those young guys have to prove something to push him out of his likely roster spot.

    Many teams keep 6 WRs on the 53-man roster. The decision of who dresses and who doesn't typically depends on injuries. 45 dress on Sunday, plus your emergency QB. That leaves 7 every week who are inactive. If a guy can prove to be a force on ST from the WR position, they will dress over a guy like Nelson who probably sits 5th on the depth chart.

    And we CAN put a guy on the 53-man roster for 2 games and then move him to the practice squad. But remember, players have to clear 24-hour waivers in order to be put on your PS, so it's not automatic (like baseball's minor league) that you get to keep your guy.

    #Justsayin'

  • We get a roster spot for Gordon the first two weeks, so, assuming everyone is healthy, I think six of these guys make the roster: Little, Bess, Benjamin, Nelson for sure and two guys out of Norwood, Cooper, Roosevelt, Davis, Gurley.

    My Guess is Norwood and Roosevelt grab those two roster spots, Cooper is cut, and between Davis and Gurley, one goes on IR and the other on the practice squad.

    When Gordon comes back they would cut Roosevelt.

    Again, assuming the top six stay completely healthy ... that won't happen.

    Zombo

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @shep said:

    There's a WR out there somewhere who might be on the team for two regular season games, then gone.

    Not sure if you are replying to me or not....I think Roosevelt stuck entire seasons.

    @ballpeen said:

    Not sure if you are replying to me or not....I think Roosevelt stuck entire seasons.

    I posted his numbers on another thread. He played with the Bill in '10 and '11, but nowhere last year. Not sure why.

  • C calfoxwc

    There's no excuses for Weeden. He has a terrific, kick ass oline, a nice upgraded wr core,

    te's (Cameron may very well become a star, I think), Richardson and the rest of the rb's...(I want to see Lewis play...),

    an aggressive system, with aggressive coaches.

    I hope he doesn't feel the pressure...but it's going to be there. Everything is in place now, for him to shine in a dramatic way.

    And the front seven on defense? That's scary stuff for any opposing offense they play. I imagine the NFL qb's who face

    this Browns front seven on a third and long, aren't going to have much time to make a play.

    The question of how many wr's will they keep and which ones, confounds me. But it's a great, new problem for the Browns to have.

    @calfoxwc said:

    There's no excuses for Weeden. He has a terrific, kick ass oline, a nice upgraded wr core,

    te's (Cameron may very well become a star, I think), Richardson and the rest of the rb's...(I want to see Lewis play...),

    an aggressive system, with aggressive coaches.

    I hope he doesn't feel the pressure...but it's going to be there. Everything is in place now, for him to shine in a dramatic way.

    And the front seven on defense? That's scary stuff for any opposing offense they play. I imagine the NFL qb's who face

    this Browns front seven on a third and long, aren't going to have much time to make a play.

    The question of how many wr's will they keep and which ones, confounds me. But it's a great, new problem for the Browns to have.

    Ghoolie would say you are FOS with all your optimism, that this team will be worse than last year. That the QB sucks, the WRs suck, the defense sucks, the coaches suck, the offensive line is fat and overpaid. So? What do you say to that?

  • LOL. Ghoolie and I are very cool. He and Rich have always had the "oline is a dime a dozen" nonsense going on....

    But this oline has already made a huge difference for Weeden last year, with Swartz manning RT.

    So, I hope he comes back so we can give him crap about how great the oline plays....

    Hey, Ghoolie buddy, you picked a fine time to avoid talking about the offensive line, Lucille ! GGG

  • Now, I'll respond here, after Ghoolie replied in the "Dickheads on Parade" thread....after

    posting about Kosar sounding drunk.........

    yeah.

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    AH, I ee, so what you are saying, is all these teams that finished in teh shitter, should be our model for drafting? Ahhhh yes, let us model ourselves after KC> Boy, that really showed me something.
    YOu know, if you have a solid team, the by all means spend a high pick on a lard ass OL. But the Browns? he fucktards can't even catch footballs in touch football training camp.
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    nopie, nopie, nopie ....
    See, a lot the better teams already invested in their oline. For instance, your Steelers have a 1st round center,
    2nd rounder at RT, 2nd rounder at LT, and a 1st rounder at one guard position. The other guard was a big undrafted fa.
    And still, Pittifulburg's oline is being questioned. Good teams invest in blocking on that offensive line, like they do
    investing on their defensive line. It's a team game, and the oline is the engine that makes the offense
    be able to run.
    And that's a fact, jack.
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