Government Shutdown Over Obamacare

[heckofajobbrownie]

@westside-steve said:

Change just a few words in the ornstein article and he could be talking about the debt ceiling.

Not really. And not really an argument.

"Hey, if you change the words it could mean something else!"

Well, no shit.

[heckofajobbrownie]

"We should not be closing down the government under any circumstances. That doesn’t work, it’s wrong, and, you know, Obamacare passed. We have to try to defund it, we have to try to find ways to repeal it. But the fact is, we shouldn’t be using it as a threat to shut down the government. ...The American people get turned off with the threat of terror politics."

-- Rep. Peter King (R-NY), also a RINO

[heckofajobbrownie]

Now go see what Ted Cruz is out saying today. He's going to be their hero, I tells ya.

[Westside Steve]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Not really. And not really an argument.

"Hey, if you change the words it could mean something else!"

Well, no shit.

sure it is. You guys don't like spending cap which was apparently made into law by at least as valid channels as Obamacare. So you spend your life trying to under mine it.

the spending limit was imposed because we can't trust people to stay within a budget. Pure and simple.

WSS

[heckofajobbrownie]

Aye aye aye.

You're just not that good at this stuff.

[heckofajobbrownie]

“I think I want to challenge Obamacare on all fronts, but that’s a bridge too far for me,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) told TPM in the Capitol on Tuesday. “As much as I want to replace Obamacare I’m not going to deny Social Security payments, funding of the military and the FBI at a time of great national security concerns. I think that’s a bridge too far.”

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) didn’t take a definitive stance, telling TPM, “I hope we wouldn’t shut down the government, but I’d like to shut out Obamacare.”

Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) told TPM that “Obamacare is not working” and “needs to be fixed.” But when pressed on whether it’s worth risking a government shutdown over, he demurred: “I’m not going to get that far.”

[Westside Steve]

Ha.

OK the law was enacted merely out of spite. Folderal and fiddle dee dee.

WSS

[Westside Steve]

The one and only danger of shutting down the government is the guaranteed barrage of demagoguery.

And that stuff, sir, you are really really good at!

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Just let Obamacare collapse under its own weight

WSS

[heckofajobbrownie]

Worked pretty well in Massachusetts.

[Westside Steve]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Worked pretty well in Massachusetts.

Well there was a smarter guy in charge there at the time.

WSS

[heckofajobbrownie]

Good to know the law is cool with you as long as it's a Republican in charge.

Nothing partisan about that.

[Westside Steve]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Good to know the law is cool with you as long as it's a Republican in charge.

Nothing partisan about that.

C'mon comrade. With a few minor changes I'm okay with Obamacare.. One of the reasons I wished Hillary hadbeen the nominee is because of the public mandate which your boy ran against. But I don't expect him to have any idea of the shit he campaigns on anyway.

I do think you guys rushed it through so you're going to be stuck with some problems and good for you.

WSS

[heckofajobbrownie]

Yeah, yeah. You've already typed that post 12 times. And more "Your boy." And that he's so stupid he doesn't even understand what's coming out of his mouth.

You're an idiot.

[Westside Steve]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Yeah, yeah. You've already typed that post 12 times. And more "Your boy." And that he's so stupid he doesn't even understand what's coming out of his mouth.

You're an idiot.

Ha ha.

Like that news anchor reading the Chinese Pilots names.

Ho Li Fuk! Wi Tu Lo!

But it's pretty clear he didn't have much of a grip on the plan, right? I mean he did swear to God it wasn't a tax until, well, you know.

WSS

[FairHooker11]

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/08/69875-amazing-4-3-part-time-jobs-created-for-every-full-time-job-in-2013/

why dont the clueless republicans sue the administration on constitutional grounds for breaking its own law by postponing its start date in 2014?

and BTW congrats Barry for all the new jobs.....

[calfoxwc]

The upside for OBamao and the rest of their ilk,

is that it means a lot more near poverty and dependence on gov.

Dangerous trend we are seeing.

[MLD Woody]

I'm guessing this data is a little deceiving. All the other years have data for the entire year. 2013 just has up until now (or a month ago or whatever). I'm guessing the summer time is the biggest boom in part time jobs. Therefore the ratio at this point in the year would be expected to be higher when compared to a full year. More accurate data would be seen with a full year's worth of data.

[calfoxwc]

As i understand it...if a company has enough part time employees to add up to a certain number of hours,

they still are required to get them medical insurance.

So, they will start letting part timers go.

This "social engineering" isn't about bricks and steel.

It's about human beings. And human beings do not do well under being controlled to the point of being

part of an "engineered society".

[FairHooker11]

Obama core constituents are the ones bailing on this trainwreck - now even the IRS!!

[The Cysko Kid]

@westside-steve said:

I fear shutting down the government about as much as I feared sequester. And about as much as I fear being eaten by sparrows.

WSS

This is about the long and short of it. I could give a fuck. Shut it down.