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  • Ha. You are correct in that.

    Sometimes I neglect to edit this shit as quickly as I should. But just keep in mind who you are actually crabbing about.

    and, as I always try to do, I try to avoid things like every or all or only.

    I just think that when the majority wants free shit and the minority pays the taxes that weights and election.

    WSS

  • And for the record I include myself in that as well. I've disagreed with Bob about the unions but let me tell you that if Musicians Union made sure I got a lifetime pension and couldn't really be fired or replaced and the taxpayers we're picking up the tab I'd probably be pro union too.

    WSS

  • There's a musicians union?

  • Yes there is. It used to have some power even though that's pretty much gone now. The big boys saw some better shit but most of us local musicians just paid dues even though at one point we got stiffed and the Union made the club owner cough up the money. Pretty funny he refused to pay us because I did a disco sucks routine and his place was a disco as well as a rock club. We got together before a panel of octogenarian Italian American musicians who asked him what did the boys say that was offensive? He said disco sucks. The old paisan said pay the boys. But many many years ago I believe in the 70's there was a Musicians Union strike which affected the real guys out in Hollywood in New York. I remember The Smothers Brothers show theme song was sung acapella for a time.

    the Union exists still today but I don't think any live music venues give a shit so...

    WSS

  • Sees no reason to post his own legit opinions because....

    nope. bullhockey.

    It's another thing libs do most all the time - they pick what sources are allowed, and they

    pick the definitions of words, then they get all emotional and woodpeckerish about

    being disagreed with. Anything that doesn't fit the pouty, "anti" narrative is bashed, ignored, etc.

    I know I consider Mexico a hell hole. And the vast amount of geography that the drug cartels

    control is one of the most important elements that I use to form that opinion. And I consider hell holes

    third world countries. And I don't give a rat's rear end about the redefining of the term liberal wise.

    And, btw, the editorial I linked to, simply referenced the author's opinions, which mirrored mine, and

    saved me typing. Libs do that too - they demand scientific studies if you disagree with them, but if

    they disagree with you, why, they don't go with their own criteria. They go with quotes from journalists

    they have on their side of the fence, they go with personal insults, and they get mad when other folks

    ask about those scientific studies. Weird.

  • A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.

  • A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.

    They're pretty different things...

  • Sees no reason to post his own legit opinions because....

    nope. bullhockey.

    It's another thing libs do most all the time - they pick what sources are allowed, and they

    pick the definitions of words, then they get all emotional and woodpeckerish about

    being disagreed with. Anything that doesn't fit the pouty, "anti" narrative is bashed, ignored, etc.

    I know I consider Mexico a hell hole. And the vast amount of geography that the drug cartels

    control is one of the most important elements that I use to form that opinion. And I consider hell holes

    third world countries. And I don't give a rat's rear end about the redefining of the term liberal wise.

    And, btw, the editorial I linked to, simply referenced the author's opinions, which mirrored mine, and

    saved me typing. Libs do that too - they demand scientific studies if you disagree with them, but if

    they disagree with you, why, they don't go with their own criteria. They go with quotes from journalists

    they have on their side of the fence, they go with personal insults, and they get mad when other folks

    ask about those scientific studies. Weird.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Sees no reason to post his own legit opinions because....

    nope. bullhockey.

    It's another thing libs do most all the time - they pick what sources are allowed, and they

    pick the definitions of words, then they get all emotional and woodpeckerish about

    being disagreed with. Anything that doesn't fit the pouty, "anti" narrative is bashed, ignored, etc.

    I know I consider Mexico a hell hole. And the vast amount of geography that the drug cartels

    control is one of the most important elements that I use to form that opinion. And I consider hell holes

    third world countries. And I don't give a rat's rear end about the redefining of the term liberal wise.

    And, btw, the editorial I linked to, simply referenced the author's opinions, which mirrored mine, and

    saved me typing. Libs do that too - they demand scientific studies if you disagree with them, but if

    they disagree with you, why, they don't go with their own criteria. They go with quotes from journalists

    they have on their side of the fence, they go with personal insults, and they get mad when other folks

    ask about those scientific studies. Weird.

    What are you talking about? Who are these phantom liberals you hate so much that are doing this? I made reference to what you are doing. You come back with "liberals this" and "liberals that". You really do have a problem. Have I done what you described? If so please show me. I'm guessing this will just lead to another example of you not understanding what makes a source good though.

  • Statistics are statistics. Either you can argue them or you can't. Not only when it suits your purpose.

  • Social science and science science aren't the same.

    And to say "agree with all statistics or none" is stupid. It is easy to warp some stats into what you want. If you can take a stat and quickly turn it on its head then that's a bad sign. If you can't, and someone else can back it up and show its validity, then that's different.

  • Well why don't you go to FBI.gov and see if you cam turn that stat on its head. Veteran spin man heck couldn't. That's why he took the stance he did. If he could have spun it he would have

  • Your stance was what, that black people commit more crime because of their black culture?

  • A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.

    statistics are AWESOME when they prove your point of view, not so much when they disprove your point of view

  • Except stats that say black people commit the largest percentage of crime don't prove they have an inferior culture. Just like a stat that says the majority of serial killers chew gum doesn't prove chewing gum makes you a murderer. Its causation vs correlation. It is not the same kind of stat that gets posted with global warming. Actual temperatures vs scientific models, different chemical readouts, water level changes, etc etc. All of which are uses by a global network of climatologists as the critique each discovery and revise their model and views.

  • Maybe someone should take a stab at a definition of culture.

    Maybe then we can decide if there's anything wrong with any subgroups culture.

    WSS

  • Except stats that say black people commit the largest percentage of crime don't prove they have an inferior culture. Just like a stat that says the majority of serial killers chew gum doesn't prove chewing gum makes you a murderer. Its causation vs correlation. It is not the same kind of stat that gets posted with global warming. Actual temperatures vs scientific models, different chemical readouts, water level changes, etc etc. All of which are uses by a global network of climatologists as the critique each discovery and revise their model and views.

    @mld-woody said:

    Except stats that say black people commit the largest percentage of crime don't prove they have an inferior culture. Just like a stat that says the majority of serial killers chew gum doesn't prove chewing gum makes you a murderer. Its causation vs correlation. It is not the same kind of stat that gets posted with global warming. Actual temperatures vs scientific models, different chemical readouts, water level changes, etc etc. All of which are uses by a global network of climatologists as the critique each discovery and revise their model and views.

    Maybe if you lived and worked with blacks in the Ghetto you would understand their culture white boy.

  • The biggest thing I have against Cysko's culture rant was that he tied it all the way back to blacks in Africa. So even though it is totally not based on genetics, these two groups that literally have nothing in common but their skin car both have inferior cultures. That I guess over the few hundred years since slaves were forced here the one constant has been their inferior culture.... I'm not buying it.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Except stats that say black people commit the largest percentage of crime don't prove they have an inferior culture. Just like a stat that says the majority of serial killers chew gum doesn't prove chewing gum makes you a murderer. Its causation vs correlation. It is not the same kind of stat that gets posted with global warming. Actual temperatures vs scientific models, different chemical readouts, water level changes, etc etc. All of which are uses by a global network of climatologists as the critique each discovery and revise their model and views.

    Maybe if you lived and worked with blacks in the Ghetto you would understand their culture white boy.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Maybe if you lived and worked with blacks in the Ghetto you would understand their culture white boy.

    All blacks live in the ghetto? Or are you saying there is a blacks in the ghetto culture and a blacks not in the ghetto culture.

    If you say that latter, this could be the first step to you realizing this isn't just a race thing.

  • And you still haven't defined culture.

    It seems as though you are saying that bad and sub par behavior in the 21st century can be blamed on something that happened in the 1800's and before.

    If that is your position I'm not buying it.

    WSS

  • When did I say that?