Al Queda Threats, Sequester, And Obammy Golfs
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A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.
A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.
They're pretty different things...
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Sees no reason to post his own legit opinions because....
nope. bullhockey.
It's another thing libs do most all the time - they pick what sources are allowed, and they
pick the definitions of words, then they get all emotional and woodpeckerish about
being disagreed with. Anything that doesn't fit the pouty, "anti" narrative is bashed, ignored, etc.
I know I consider Mexico a hell hole. And the vast amount of geography that the drug cartels
control is one of the most important elements that I use to form that opinion. And I consider hell holes
third world countries. And I don't give a rat's rear end about the redefining of the term liberal wise.
And, btw, the editorial I linked to, simply referenced the author's opinions, which mirrored mine, and
saved me typing. Libs do that too - they demand scientific studies if you disagree with them, but if
they disagree with you, why, they don't go with their own criteria. They go with quotes from journalists
they have on their side of the fence, they go with personal insults, and they get mad when other folks
ask about those scientific studies. Weird.
Sees no reason to post his own legit opinions because....
nope. bullhockey.
It's another thing libs do most all the time - they pick what sources are allowed, and they
pick the definitions of words, then they get all emotional and woodpeckerish about
being disagreed with. Anything that doesn't fit the pouty, "anti" narrative is bashed, ignored, etc.
I know I consider Mexico a hell hole. And the vast amount of geography that the drug cartels
control is one of the most important elements that I use to form that opinion. And I consider hell holes
third world countries. And I don't give a rat's rear end about the redefining of the term liberal wise.
And, btw, the editorial I linked to, simply referenced the author's opinions, which mirrored mine, and
saved me typing. Libs do that too - they demand scientific studies if you disagree with them, but if
they disagree with you, why, they don't go with their own criteria. They go with quotes from journalists
they have on their side of the fence, they go with personal insults, and they get mad when other folks
ask about those scientific studies. Weird.
What are you talking about? Who are these phantom liberals you hate so much that are doing this? I made reference to what you are doing. You come back with "liberals this" and "liberals that". You really do have a problem. Have I done what you described? If so please show me. I'm guessing this will just lead to another example of you not understanding what makes a source good though.
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Statistics are statistics. Either you can argue them or you can't. Not only when it suits your purpose.
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Social science and science science aren't the same.
And to say "agree with all statistics or none" is stupid. It is easy to warp some stats into what you want. If you can take a stat and quickly turn it on its head then that's a bad sign. If you can't, and someone else can back it up and show its validity, then that's different.
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Well why don't you go to FBI.gov and see if you cam turn that stat on its head. Veteran spin man heck couldn't. That's why he took the stance he did. If he could have spun it he would have
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Your stance was what, that black people commit more crime because of their black culture?
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A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.
A good example of that is heck swearing up and down statistics on global warming are infallible and true 100% of the time. But when confronted with statistics that black people commit more violent crimes, abortions and child abuse then suddenly statistics are invalid. They don't tell the whole story, they are misleading etc etc etc...which is it? Statistics are valid or not? I guess it depends on how much you like the issue.
statistics are AWESOME when they prove your point of view, not so much when they disprove your point of view
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Except stats that say black people commit the largest percentage of crime don't prove they have an inferior culture. Just like a stat that says the majority of serial killers chew gum doesn't prove chewing gum makes you a murderer. Its causation vs correlation. It is not the same kind of stat that gets posted with global warming. Actual temperatures vs scientific models, different chemical readouts, water level changes, etc etc. All of which are uses by a global network of climatologists as the critique each discovery and revise their model and views.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Maybe someone should take a stab at a definition of culture.
Maybe then we can decide if there's anything wrong with any subgroups culture.
WSS
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Except stats that say black people commit the largest percentage of crime don't prove they have an inferior culture. Just like a stat that says the majority of serial killers chew gum doesn't prove chewing gum makes you a murderer. Its causation vs correlation. It is not the same kind of stat that gets posted with global warming. Actual temperatures vs scientific models, different chemical readouts, water level changes, etc etc. All of which are uses by a global network of climatologists as the critique each discovery and revise their model and views.
Except stats that say black people commit the largest percentage of crime don't prove they have an inferior culture. Just like a stat that says the majority of serial killers chew gum doesn't prove chewing gum makes you a murderer. Its causation vs correlation. It is not the same kind of stat that gets posted with global warming. Actual temperatures vs scientific models, different chemical readouts, water level changes, etc etc. All of which are uses by a global network of climatologists as the critique each discovery and revise their model and views.
Maybe if you lived and worked with blacks in the Ghetto you would understand their culture white boy.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
The biggest thing I have against Cysko's culture rant was that he tied it all the way back to blacks in Africa. So even though it is totally not based on genetics, these two groups that literally have nothing in common but their skin car both have inferior cultures. That I guess over the few hundred years since slaves were forced here the one constant has been their inferior culture.... I'm not buying it.
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Except stats that say black people commit the largest percentage of crime don't prove they have an inferior culture. Just like a stat that says the majority of serial killers chew gum doesn't prove chewing gum makes you a murderer. Its causation vs correlation. It is not the same kind of stat that gets posted with global warming. Actual temperatures vs scientific models, different chemical readouts, water level changes, etc etc. All of which are uses by a global network of climatologists as the critique each discovery and revise their model and views.
Maybe if you lived and worked with blacks in the Ghetto you would understand their culture white boy.
Maybe if you lived and worked with blacks in the Ghetto you would understand their culture white boy.
All blacks live in the ghetto? Or are you saying there is a blacks in the ghetto culture and a blacks not in the ghetto culture.
If you say that latter, this could be the first step to you realizing this isn't just a race thing.
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And you still haven't defined culture.
It seems as though you are saying that bad and sub par behavior in the 21st century can be blamed on something that happened in the 1800's and before.
If that is your position I'm not buying it.
WSS
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When did I say that?
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I said it seems as though.
2 posts back.
So you don't think slavery plays a major role in 2 days black culture in America? Or it does?
your argument cant just be anger at someone who pointed it out can it?
still waiting on your definition of culture. Does it begin in Africa does it begin when the slaves arrived to this continent?
Also I don't think anyone here is making the claim that the problems in black society are due to genetic inferiority. I think places with large concentrations of Negroes have been historically below average. I'm not claiming to know why that is. And I certainly wouldn't blame it on genetics.
WSS
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Well, I think they've historically been at a disadvantage in America. You don't have to go back to slavery though. Civil rights movements were pretty recent. This along with living in a lot of worse off areas creates a recipe for crime, poor education, etc. Do whites with a family history of being in the lower class that live in the ghetto fair better in these stats than blacks?
I think its absurd to just say "black culture" and say that's that. Then to add Africans as an example... how does that have anything to do with the urban stats that have been brought up? Literally the only thing in common is genetics, not the culture.
We don't face any real oppression in any way as white males. We were all probably brought up in better situations. Its not just our "culture" that's the difference.
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Still waiting on a definition we can agree on. But it does seem Africa has been disadvantaged as far back as written history goes, correct? You can't blame slavery for that can you?
WSS
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I never did...
Africa's environment sucks. Humans originated there but spread out. It isn't very kind at promoting civilization I would say. When a large portion is desert and everything wants to kill you, not good.
I'm saying that counting any of this to "black culture" is Retarded, or wherever the hell Cysko was trying to go with that in the other thread
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I understand that you guys disagree with Woody, but can you try not projecting as much as you are? Some of these accusations are nowhere near the mark, and it's hard to have a conversation when everyone's just saying "Woody is a faggot."
I'll take a whack at Steve's question. Slavery was a contributor to the current situation in Africa where everything seems to be about a century behind the rest of the world. Slavery, however, was just one of the many facets of colonialism which is the ultimate reason things got so fucked up there. The places that resisted colonialism (and earlier, the Dark Ages and Crusades) were hubs of rich culture and scientific advancement under Islamic rule.
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