Preseason Opener Thursday Night!
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copied from wiKi cuz no, i don't like to type:
CLEVELAND BROWNS:
Championships League championships (8)-
AAFC Championships (4)
1946, 1947, 1948, 1949 -
NFL Championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger) (4)
1950, 1954, 1955, 1964
- AAFC Western: 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949
- NFL Century: 1967, 1968, 1969
- AFC Central: 1971, 1980, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989
THANK YOU, AND GOOD NITE!
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AAFC Championships (4)
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copied from wiKi cuz no, i don't like to type:
CLEVELAND BROWNS:
Championships League championships (8)-
AAFC Championships (4)
1946, 1947, 1948, 1949 -
NFL Championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger) (4)
1950, 1954, 1955, 1964
- AAFC Western: 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949
- NFL Century: 1967, 1968, 1969
- AFC Central: 1971, 1980, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989
THANK YOU, AND GOOD NITE!
copied from wiKi cuz no, i don't like to type:
CLEVELAND BROWNS:
Championships League championships (8)- AAFC Championships (4)
- NFL Championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger) (4)
- AAFC Western: 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949
- NFL Century: 1967, 1968, 1969
- AFC Central: 1971, 1980, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989
THANK YOU, AND GOOD NITE!
Yea, my point.....you can call just winning your division a "championship'. There are only 4 teams in each division. You can have 8 champions per year? Nyet. One champion.
That being said....lets add a pile of those "Divsion Championships" to the Browns resume.
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AAFC Championships (4)
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Hate to break to you all, but Cleveland is only number 8 on this list :
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eddf45gdeg/the-most-miserable-sports-cities-2/#gallerycontent
I'm not sure how this works out, because there are some that have had SuperBowl appearances . . .
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Hate to break to you all, but Cleveland is only number 8 on this list :
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eddf45gdeg/the-most-miserable-sports-cities-2/#gallerycontent
I'm not sure how this works out, because there are some that have had SuperBowl appearances . . .
Hate to break to you all, but Cleveland is only number 8 on this list :
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eddf45gdeg/the-most-miserable-sports-cities-2/#gallerycontent
I'm not sure how this works out, because there are some that have had SuperBowl appearances . . .
Utterly disagree with Forbes- they can cram that list where the sun don't shine. Braves have won a couple World Series in the last 20 years, The Broncos a couple SBs. Sonics? How about the Browns on hiatus for a few years, and the #1 current player in the NBA (LeBum) giving Cleveland the finger on National TV? You'd probably have to be around 60 to remember the last Browns Championship, or (like my Mom) 80+ to remember Bob Feller & the Tribe winning the World Series.
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copied from wiKi cuz no, i don't like to type:
CLEVELAND BROWNS:
Championships League championships (8)- AAFC Championships (4)
- NFL Championships (pre-1970 AFL–NFL merger) (4)
- AAFC Western: 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949
- NFL Century: 1967, 1968, 1969
- AFC Central: 1971, 1980, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989
THANK YOU, AND GOOD NITE!
Yea, my point.....you can call just winning your division a "championship'. There are only 4 teams in each division. You can have 8 champions per year? Nyet. One champion.
That being said....lets add a pile of those "Divsion Championships" to the Browns resume.
Yea, my point.....you can call just winning your division a "championship'. There are only 4 teams in each division. You can have 8 champions per year? Nyet. One champion.
That being said....lets add a pile of those "Divsion Championships" to the Browns resume.
don't want to banter on this much longer (because it is off topic) BUT IMHO i think there are different degrees or levels of the term champion in the world of sports. super bowl champion. afc champion. afc central champ.
sort like the world series champion. american league champion. american league central champ etc. when it comes down to it though i agree. it's sorta childish in a way. letting the kids feel good about something they achieved only to get their asses handed to them the next week. or the next day.
but then again when the world gets together and has the ultimate competition would you call an athlete from the USA who wins a bronze medal at the olympics a loser? and you can't call the super bowl winner 'world champions' because the people up north play the same game, albeit a little different. and the world series champion is kind of an impromptu name considering half the world could kick our teams' asses.
in the eye of the beholder type of thing.
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Hate to break to you all, but Cleveland is only number 8 on this list :
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eddf45gdeg/the-most-miserable-sports-cities-2/#gallerycontent
I'm not sure how this works out, because there are some that have had SuperBowl appearances . . .
Utterly disagree with Forbes- they can cram that list where the sun don't shine. Braves have won a couple World Series in the last 20 years, The Broncos a couple SBs. Sonics? How about the Browns on hiatus for a few years, and the #1 current player in the NBA (LeBum) giving Cleveland the finger on National TV? You'd probably have to be around 60 to remember the last Browns Championship, or (like my Mom) 80+ to remember Bob Feller & the Tribe winning the World Series.
Braves have won a couple World Series in the last 20 years,
Well. it was just one. The one I couldn't root for them because I was rooting for the Indians. I couldn't even celebrate that.
Atlanta is 100 miles down the road. Over the last 35 years I have watched a lot of Braves games, on TV and in person. I will always be a Indian fan, but the Braves are a fairly close second. They are my National League team.
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Braves have won a couple World Series in the last 20 years,
Well. it was just one. The one I couldn't root for them because I was rooting for the Indians. I couldn't even celebrate that.
Atlanta is 100 miles down the road. Over the last 35 years I have watched a lot of Braves games, on TV and in person. I will always be a Indian fan, but the Braves are a fairly close second. They are my National League team.
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Hate to break to you all, but Cleveland is only number 8 on this list :
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eddf45gdeg/the-most-miserable-sports-cities-2/#gallerycontent
I'm not sure how this works out, because there are some that have had SuperBowl appearances . . .
Hate to break to you all, but Cleveland is only number 8 on this list :
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eddf45gdeg/the-most-miserable-sports-cities-2/#gallerycontent
I'm not sure how this works out, because there are some that have had SuperBowl appearances . . .
They put Cleveland that low because this town did have quite a bit of success in the 40s/50s.
If you just go by the total history of a town, OK sure. But if you want to go by the memory of anyone under the age of 65-70, I think Cleveland has had the worst of it.
They talk about Houston/Atlanta/Seattle being worse...but they have had titles much more recently. Though, I understand that the losing of teams, like the Thrashers leaving and the Sonics leaving. Sure that hurts. But Phoenix? They just won a title in 2001, and were in the Super Bowl as well. And putting Denver ahead of Cleveland is definitely a fucking joke.
I can see Buffalo and San Diego as being right up there...but certainly not Denver.
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Yea, my point.....you can call just winning your division a "championship'. There are only 4 teams in each division. You can have 8 champions per year? Nyet. One champion.
That being said....lets add a pile of those "Divsion Championships" to the Browns resume.
don't want to banter on this much longer (because it is off topic) BUT IMHO i think there are different degrees or levels of the term champion in the world of sports. super bowl champion. afc champion. afc central champ.
sort like the world series champion. american league champion. american league central champ etc. when it comes down to it though i agree. it's sorta childish in a way. letting the kids feel good about something they achieved only to get their asses handed to them the next week. or the next day.
but then again when the world gets together and has the ultimate competition would you call an athlete from the USA who wins a bronze medal at the olympics a loser? and you can't call the super bowl winner 'world champions' because the people up north play the same game, albeit a little different. and the world series champion is kind of an impromptu name considering half the world could kick our teams' asses.
in the eye of the beholder type of thing.
don't want to banter on this much longer (because it is off topic) BUT IMHO i think there are different degrees or levels of the term champion in the world of sports. super bowl champion. afc champion. afc central champ.
sort like the world series champion. american league champion. american league central champ etc. when it comes down to it though i agree. it's sorta childish in a way. letting the kids feel good about something they achieved only to get their asses handed to them the next week. or the next day.
but then again when the world gets together and has the ultimate competition would you call an athlete from the USA who wins a bronze medal at the olympics a loser? and you can't call the super bowl winner 'world champions' because the people up north play the same game, albeit a little different. and the world series champion is kind of an impromptu name considering half the world could kick our teams' asses.
in the eye of the beholder type of thing.
Bottom line: The "Champion" is the team that wins that last game....and carries off the final trophy.
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Braves have won a couple World Series in the last 20 years,
Well. it was just one. The one I couldn't root for them because I was rooting for the Indians. I couldn't even celebrate that.
Atlanta is 100 miles down the road. Over the last 35 years I have watched a lot of Braves games, on TV and in person. I will always be a Indian fan, but the Braves are a fairly close second. They are my National League team.
Well. it was just one. The one I couldn't root for them because I was rooting for the Indians. I couldn't even celebrate that.
Atlanta is 100 miles down the road. Over the last 35 years I have watched a lot of Braves games, on TV and in person. I will always be a Indian fan, but the Braves are a fairly close second. They are my National League team.
They have been the bridesmaid quite a few time. It just sucks that the one and only time they had to win was against us. Why couldn't they have lost to the Tribe, but beat the Yankees, or Blue Jays, or whoever else they had played.
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