The Amazing Tale of Colt McCoy
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i'm going to preface my comments here by saying this is a touchy subject to me. i know people jump all over other people in this mob rules mentality when a guy you stick up for suddenly sucks.
i hated the mccoy pick. but under the circumstances and given what tools he had to work with, i grew to like the kid, cuz i always root for the underdog when i don't give a fuck about a head to head competition. i've seen many of small dudes beat the piss out of these "i'll take you outside and your girlfriend is a whore" type situations and that suits me just fine.
remember who it was who had to climb up and reach for this pick. yep. mike holmgren. who half of you motherfuckers swore up and down was the second coming of christ and was going to be the next paul brown. well not only did he leave a shit stain on all of your chins but he fucked up this kid's NFL career (if he ever had one) by surrounding him with the like of our great offensive talent at the time e.g. robiskie, massaquoi, hardesty and hillis and his first year lame duck coach in mangini and to follow up with shurmur.
talk about a unlevel playing field.
people get attached to players and it's almost a 'go down with the ship mentality' when someone bad mouths 'their' guy. i took it that way last year when weeden continued to struggle with his reads and kept throwin pick sixes and was a leader of the 'well let's see what mccoy could do!' chants.
all i can say is his family produced some great TEXAS football players who still hold records today at that level of competition.
BUT
if you were to ask me today what i thought of colt mccoy after seeing him play in the NFL, i would tell you he doesn't have the physical skillset to make it in this league as a starter, let alone a backup.
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This chart only goes to 2010....but that seems good enough of a time to make an evaluation of some of these.Note that they have Sanchez in the non-bust column....oops.
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McCoy is a third string scout team qb at best. Even the great harbaugh couldn't redirect that wasted piece of garbage pivk
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mik.....Yes, I think you make a point about McCoy being saddled with a poor situtation....from the coaching to the RBs to the WRs.
That said, he wasn't good enough to overcome that.
And, that said, I think he is where his talent level will take him. A second or 3rd string backup QB
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mik.....Yes, I think you make a point about McCoy being saddled with a poor situtation....from the coaching to the RBs to the WRs.
That said, he wasn't good enough to overcome that.
And, that said, I think he is where his talent level will take him. A second or 3rd string backup QB
mik.....Yes, I think you make a point about McCoy being saddled with a poor situtation....from the coaching to the RBs to the WRs.
That said, he wasn't good enough to overcome that.
And, that said, I think he is where his talent level will take him. A second or 3rd string backup QB
yes.
BTW, i hate reading charts, especially ones done that poorly. i did that shit for 10 years.
i still have nightmares of my first sergeant yellin at me "where's my chart spec. pratt!!"
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mik.....Yes, I think you make a point about McCoy being saddled with a poor situtation....from the coaching to the RBs to the WRs.
That said, he wasn't good enough to overcome that.
And, that said, I think he is where his talent level will take him. A second or 3rd string backup QB
yes.
BTW, i hate reading charts, especially ones done that poorly. i did that shit for 10 years.
i still have nightmares of my first sergeant yellin at me "where's my chart spec. pratt!!"
yes.
BTW, i hate reading charts, especially ones done that poorly. i did that shit for 10 years.
i still have nightmares of my first sergeant yellin at me "where's my chart spec. pratt!!"
That one came out too small, so it was hard to read. Plus, it is like 3 years old. Maybe I can find something better.
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Here is a bit of an older article I found that discusses the reasons certain QBs go bust. It talks about the drafting of Matt Stafford, but the analysis is probably still quite valid.
The only thing I disagree here with it the analysis of Tim Couch not having "intangibles". I think he had the intangibles. But he certainly didn't have the OLine, primarily, and he did come from a gimmick offense in college:
A question is: how would these factors apply to the likes of say, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, and other Browns QBs.
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I should be the one to announce that the Niners did an about face and now say McCoy IS the backup. Maybe Harbaugh didn't like all the shit he was getting for trading for someone not as good as someone he could've signed as a UDFA.
"Intangibles" really do matter, but the two reasons QBs fail are below-the-bar arm strength (velocity) and an inability to mentally keep up with the complexity and speed of the game. Doesn't really mean you're "stupid," just that you have to process really fast and make your eyes/body keep up. It's not easy.
Weeden's still got plenty to prove. He has a serious A-list arm but the Colts put some heat on him (wow, did Joe Thomas have a rough day in every way or what?) and he did not handle it any better than last year.
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I watched part of the game last night and McCoy looked pretty good. He drove them right down the field for a TD. He was 11-15 for a little over 100 yards. However I read today that he threw a pick. Didn't see it so who knows if it was his fault or not. But from what I saw I thought he definitely looked good enough to make the team, although they have Wallace, and Daniels there too who they took in the 7th round. My guess is Wallace will be the odd man out.
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Read up a few where I posted the article. He is number two.
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He will be starting at some point. You all will miss him like your ex-girlfriends
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He will be starting at some point. You all will miss him like your ex-girlfriends
He will be starting at some point. You all will miss him like your ex-girlfriends
Good point. Because the only ones you really miss are the ones who could really suck
Zombo
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yeah, who cares about the overweight scags?
when it's prime ass pussy and they leave you all of a sudden you are stuck in a corner listening to some barry mannilow shit and crying your eyes out over a half glass of scotch and whatever drugs you can get your hands on.
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Zombo said:
Tell me you never actually owned anything from Barry Manilow.
Zombo
--pleaae tell me
no. but my friends still tease me about my playlists.
start off with the clash and end with some gordon lightfoot. with some big pun and tool in the mix.
n***** pleez!
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the niners are fucked if slapherdick goes down.
But anyway harbaugh didnt sell the colt mccoy trade real well if you ask me.
he went from playing like shit he's cut... too playing like shit, that my guy, in one week.
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Nothing wrong with some Lightfoot.
In fact, let's all take a musical break and remember what happend on the lake they called Gitchee Gunnee:
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