Skip to content

Week 1 Game Impressions: Fins @ Browns

The Browns Board
173 37 7.8k
  • @hx214 said:

    Better than he did last year. Better than he did in the third preseason game, better than throwing 9 different QB's into the game during the season. jesus not long ago we started Ken Dorsey and Brad Grandkoski(whatever the hell his name is) all in the same season, so take your pick on what "better" you want.

    Whether you like it or not, the Browns are stuck with him. What are you going to do now put Campbell in? Dude couldn't even lock down the job in Oakland and they started Pryor today. But sure throw him in and when he sucks it up call up tebow, McCoy and anybody else.

    And ya standards are low when you suck in the first place. Ill tell you right now I felt like the Weeden pick was the worst knee jerk reaction pick this team could have ever made, and I hated it then and still hate it now, but I'd rather see Weeden then some parade of backups and has beens.

    Just run the damn ball....

    Into an 8 man front...

    @nickers said:

    nickers, on 08 Sept 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

    Into an 8 man front...

    Yep. When you come out of half time with the lead after a first half when your QB and WRs cough the ball up, and when your #1 reciever is Greg Little for the day, and Cousins is protecting my right side, I'd run into an 11 man front with T. Rich. To the left side.

    It takes more than 13 carries to get a run game going. 3.6 yards a carry is a hell of a lot better than a bunch of 3 and outs

  • @nickers said:

    nickers, on 08 Sept 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

    Into an 8 man front...

    Yep. When you come out of half time with the lead after a first half when your QB and WRs cough the ball up, and when your #1 reciever is Greg Little for the day, and Cousins is protecting my right side, I'd run into an 11 man front with T. Rich. To the left side.

    It takes more than 13 carries to get a run game going. 3.6 yards a carry is a hell of a lot better than a bunch of 3 and outs

    @hx214 said:

    Yep. When you come out of half time with the lead after a first half when your QB and WRs cough the ball up, and when your #1 reciever is Greg Little for the day, and Cousins is protecting my right side, I'd run into an 11 man front with T. Rich. To the left side.

    It takes more than 13 carries to get a run game going. 3.6 yards a carry is a hell of a lot better than a bunch of 3 and outs

    Rich had some success early on. Then everything started up the middle. I don't remember anything outside at all. No sweeps.. no screens. I haven't lost hope in Richardson yet. I think he has a lot of talent and potential, he just needs to remember North and South, positive yards. No more dancing. Our line played like crap. If you don't have a O-Line, your screwed.

  • Rich had some success early on. Then everything started up the middle. I don't remember anything outside at all. No sweeps.. no screens. Brownskidd

    *****************************

    Exactly. I kept calling for a pitchout to TR - mostly to the right, because it seems the Miami defense was setting in

    to whomp on TR running to the left between Thomas and Mack. Interesting,

    btw, in the talk about Peyton and Brady earlier...

    They both had Welker, who gets open on most every ? play. Very, very elusive. Look at ?Cincy - they have

    A. J. Green who does it all, including getting open. Pittsboob Squeelers - Ben R. isn't so much

    with less oline, and no Hines Ward, eh?

    And Baltiwhore? They lost too. Oops, that big catch everything, gets open wr left.

    Brady struggled in that last game. Peyton has Welker now.

    I will say this - seems like other teams hit wr's on the move, and the wr's take off without losing a step.

    Weeds - he gets the ball to them, and all too often, they fall down trying to adjust their body postion to bring it in.

    Weeden had a very inaccurate day. Too much pressure, and it gets to his ability to throw on time, throw with placement

    for the wr to just nab it and take off.

  • For the record, I was exactly right about Wallace.

    I'm pulling a Ghoolie and tooting my own horn.

  • Ghoolie is Gomer's man bitch.

  • For the record, I was exactly right about Wallace.

    I'm pulling a Ghoolie and tooting my own horn.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    For the record, I was exactly right about Wallace.

    I'm pulling a Ghoolie and tooting my own horn.

    Mike Wallace stinks...He only caught 1 pass yesterday,and has been making a stink over it all morning and his team won...I want no part of that diva schmuck!

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    For the record, I was exactly right about Wallace.

    I'm pulling a Ghoolie and tooting my own horn.

    Mike Wallace stinks...He only caught 1 pass yesterday,and has been making a stink over it all morning and his team won...I want no part of that diva schmuck!

    @nickers said:

    Mike Wallace stinks...He only caught 1 pass yesterday,and has been making a stink over it all morning and his team won...I want no part of that diva schmuck!

    I said last week he'd only have one catch for very little yards.

    As a #1 receiver, Wallace has had very little production against the Browns. Last year he had 1 catch for 9 yards. For the whole season.

  • @nickers said:

    Mike Wallace stinks...He only caught 1 pass yesterday,and has been making a stink over it all morning and his team won...I want no part of that diva schmuck!

    I said last week he'd only have one catch for very little yards.

    As a #1 receiver, Wallace has had very little production against the Browns. Last year he had 1 catch for 9 yards. For the whole season.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I said last week he'd only have one catch for very little yards.

    As a #1 receiver, Wallace has had very little production against the Browns. Last year he had 1 catch for 9 yards. For the whole season.

    Good call...Theres a reason the Steelers didnt keep him around...Im actually afraid Gordon with all of his physical potential will blow it..But even if he had played...I doubt the outcome would be affected.

  • @nickers said:

    Mike Wallace stinks...He only caught 1 pass yesterday,and has been making a stink over it all morning and his team won...I want no part of that diva schmuck!

    I said last week he'd only have one catch for very little yards.

    As a #1 receiver, Wallace has had very little production against the Browns. Last year he had 1 catch for 9 yards. For the whole season.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I said last week he'd only have one catch for very little yards.

    As a #1 receiver, Wallace has had very little production against the Browns. Last year he had 1 catch for 9 yards. For the whole season.

    Not easy going against Joe Haden man-to-man. He shuts down pretty much everybody. The problem is, it makes the opposing offense look at just one side of the field, which makes reads easier for opposing QBs. We NEED Skrine/Owens/our Safeties/ and LBs to step up in pass coverage.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I said last week he'd only have one catch for very little yards.

    As a #1 receiver, Wallace has had very little production against the Browns. Last year he had 1 catch for 9 yards. For the whole season.

    Not easy going against Joe Haden man-to-man. He shuts down pretty much everybody. The problem is, it makes the opposing offense look at just one side of the field, which makes reads easier for opposing QBs. We NEED Skrine/Owens/our Safeties/ and LBs to step up in pass coverage.

    @thenew23 said:

    Not easy going against Joe Haden man-to-man. He shuts down pretty much everybody. The problem is, it makes the opposing offense look at just one side of the field, which makes reads easier for opposing QBs. We NEED Skrine/Owens/our Safeties/ and LBs to step up in pass coverage.

    So...drop Haden and the secondary improves? 😛

  • My thoughts:

    • Cousins needs to be taken out back and shot
    • Gilkey needs to start
    • Benjamin needs to be returning kicks, if he gets hurt, too bad
    • Benjamin is worthless at receiver because everyone can just push him down and disrupt his route
    • Little needs to be demoted to special teams coverage
    • Bess needs to move to WR2
    • Gordon, come back
  • Rich had some success early on. Then everything started up the middle. I don't remember anything outside at all. No sweeps.. no screens. Brownskidd

    *****************************

    Exactly. I kept calling for a pitchout to TR - mostly to the right, because it seems the Miami defense was setting in

    to whomp on TR running to the left between Thomas and Mack. Interesting,

    btw, in the talk about Peyton and Brady earlier...

    They both had Welker, who gets open on most every ? play. Very, very elusive. Look at ?Cincy - they have

    A. J. Green who does it all, including getting open. Pittsboob Squeelers - Ben R. isn't so much

    with less oline, and no Hines Ward, eh?

    And Baltiwhore? They lost too. Oops, that big catch everything, gets open wr left.

    Brady struggled in that last game. Peyton has Welker now.

    I will say this - seems like other teams hit wr's on the move, and the wr's take off without losing a step.

    Weeds - he gets the ball to them, and all too often, they fall down trying to adjust their body postion to bring it in.

    Weeden had a very inaccurate day. Too much pressure, and it gets to his ability to throw on time, throw with placement

    for the wr to just nab it and take off.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Rich had some success early on. Then everything started up the middle. I don't remember anything outside at all. No sweeps.. no screens. Brownskidd

    *****************************

    Exactly. I kept calling for a pitchout to TR - mostly to the right, because it seems the Miami defense was setting in

    to whomp on TR running to the left between Thomas and Mack. Interesting,

    You both need to spend some time in the video room...

    We opened with a sweep left for 9 yards... both JT and Greco pulled... It was pretty....

    Series later we swept left (mirror image play)... it bombed because Cousins rounded his pull into the backfield and literally stood in front of the hole wondering who to block (instead of running into it and sealing the inside pursuit) and TR waited on Cousins instead of running his ass over. Pity cause it wasted a nice seal block by Barnidge and a driving kick out by Schwartz.

    Q2 never got wider than off tackle... Far as I have gotten so far, but as I just posted in another thread, it's clear that TR is running to where the holes are supposed to be and is not seeing where they actually are.

  • Finally was able to watch the game on NFL Game Rewind is this is what I took away from the game;

    -Of the three interceptions the only one that I consider Weeden's fault completely is the one intended for Jordan Cameron. It was a horrible pass. Little should have caught his and Benjamin should have at least jumped up for his to fight for it.

    -Cousins cost us a lot, especially on the final drive where he got called for holding and false start. His pass protection and run blocking was horrible, he needs to step it up big against the Ravens.

    -If Haden and TJ had caught the interceptions they dropped it would have changed the game.

    -Weeden needs to make decisions faster. He doesn't have the speed and elusiveness to run around and buy time.

    -T-Rich needs to get the ball more. Even in the second half when the Dolphins were buckling down on their run defense he was still able to get positive yards the majority of the time. (Norv has already said he wants to get T-Rich more carries, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000243103/article/norv-wants-trent-richardson-to-see-20plus-carries)

  • The first interception was underthrown into double coverage. No way to get that off the quarterback by saying the small receiver (and I think the QB knows he's small) couldn't or didn't save the day somehow.

    The Cameron pick was high and behind, as you said. But Chud said the one off Little was Weeden's fault, too, for rocketballing a very short pass. DA did a lot of that, too.

  • The first interception was underthrown into double coverage. No way to get that off the quarterback by saying the small receiver (and I think the QB knows he's small) couldn't or didn't save the day somehow.

    The Cameron pick was high and behind, as you said. But Chud said the one off Little was Weeden's fault, too, for rocketballing a very short pass. DA did a lot of that, too.

    @shep said:

    The first interception was underthrown into double coverage. No way to get that off the quarterback by saying the small receiver (and I think the QB knows he's small) couldn't or didn't save the day somehow.

    The Cameron pick was high and behind, as you said. But Chud said the one off Little was Weeden's fault, too, for rocketballing a very short pass. DA did a lot of that, too.

    I'm so tired of hearing how he throws the ball hard. You can make an argument for the other two INT's but the one for Little in inexcusable by him. It's the NFL, if it hits you in the hands you catch it. We need to stop defending Little for having crappy hands. Favre made a career of throwing laser beams and his guys caught it just fine.

  • The first interception was underthrown into double coverage. No way to get that off the quarterback by saying the small receiver (and I think the QB knows he's small) couldn't or didn't save the day somehow.

    The Cameron pick was high and behind, as you said. But Chud said the one off Little was Weeden's fault, too, for rocketballing a very short pass. DA did a lot of that, too.

    @shep said:

    The first interception was underthrown into double coverage. No way to get that off the quarterback by saying the small receiver (and I think the QB knows he's small) couldn't or didn't save the day somehow.

    The Cameron pick was high and behind, as you said. But Chud said the one off Little was Weeden's fault, too, for rocketballing a very short pass. DA did a lot of that, too.

    Chud never blamed the INT on Weeden for throwing too hard! You made that up. He just stated that there were times where the ball could have been thrown softer when asked by a reporter. Weeden was also hit as he threw the long ball to Benjamin so of course it was short. It forced Miami to start at the 1 yd line which was better than a punt anyway. Weeden certainly still had a bad game, but he needs help from the WRs if the offense is going to do anything this year.

  • The ball to Benji was not short... You made that up!

    Ya think just maybe the hard throw to Little was one of the ones Chud was thinking of???

  • The ball to Benji was not short... You made that up!

    Ya think just maybe the hard throw to Little was one of the ones Chud was thinking of???

    @tour2ma said:

    The ball to Benji was not short... You made that up!

    Well it certainly wasn't long. What was it then smartass?

  • No problem with the first int except that Gordon was suspended and he probably would have snared it while tiny Benjamin had no chance/desire.

    Z