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  • @soju said:

    and don't worry 1000% we are taking best QB availble in next year's draft, which is good bc it's loaded with good ones.

    Pull it back some chief its still way too early, last year matt Barkley was the cream of the crop early on.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Pull it back some chief its still way too early, last year matt Barkley was the cream of the crop early on.

    a man of reason.

    the newbie has 18 posts and they are all about getting a new QB.

    hey junior, how'd kaep do last night with his big strong arm and mobile/getaway ability and all the read option bullshit against a great defense with the best defensive backfield in the league? what did they muster, 3 points? HA!

    GTFO.

    i want. what i want. i want. what i want.

    just cut the shit already. didn't flacco win the super bowl last year? and he's about as mobile as weeden. actually weeden put up better #'s than flacco sunday...-minus the td of course. but blame that on chornivsky. not weeden.

    all you guys just want to keep drafting QBs every fucking year, when we don't know how to draft anyways, just to get pissed at him in his second year and call for the next one in line.

    shut the fuck up already.

  • Here is an idea............. Get a head coach that has been a WINNING head coach in the NFL. Since the Browns have returned, they have hired Palmer, Davis, Crennel. Mangini, Shurmur, and Chudzinski. A list of idiots, losers, bad coaches, and deer in the headlights TOOLS!!!!!!!!

    Spend the $20 million and get a a PROVEN guy. Dungy, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Mariucci, .................someone.....ANYONE, besides these so-called hot assistants. The NFL is not for nice guy coaches. Look at the teams that win, their coaches are jerks, mean, and don't sugar coat ANYTHING. Watch a coach presser for NE, GB, NYG, Stoolers, SF, SEA, DEN, Balt, They don't mince words.

    Even Dungy, while he's NICE on TV, his players KNOW they are not allowed to fail.

    These assistants don't know how to handle a TEAM. They are to involved with their side of the ball.

    I WANT A HEAD COACH

  • @tour2ma said:

    I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...

    I'm still looking for "the one"...

    was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.

    @browns149 said:

    was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.

    So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?

    I'm confused.

  • @browns149 said:

    was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.

    So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?

    I'm confused.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?

    I'm confused.

    my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB

  • Here is an idea............. Get a head coach that has been a WINNING head coach in the NFL. Since the Browns have returned, they have hired Palmer, Davis, Crennel. Mangini, Shurmur, and Chudzinski. A list of idiots, losers, bad coaches, and deer in the headlights TOOLS!!!!!!!!

    Spend the $20 million and get a a PROVEN guy. Dungy, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Mariucci, .................someone.....ANYONE, besides these so-called hot assistants. The NFL is not for nice guy coaches. Look at the teams that win, their coaches are jerks, mean, and don't sugar coat ANYTHING. Watch a coach presser for NE, GB, NYG, Stoolers, SF, SEA, DEN, Balt, They don't mince words.

    Even Dungy, while he's NICE on TV, his players KNOW they are not allowed to fail.

    These assistants don't know how to handle a TEAM. They are to involved with their side of the ball.

    I WANT A HEAD COACH

    @browns149 said:

    Here is an idea............. Get a head coach that has been a WINNING head coach in the NFL. Since the Browns have returned, they have hired Palmer, Davis, Crennel. Mangini, Shurmur, and Chudzinski. A list of idiots, losers, bad coaches, and deer in the headlights TOOLS!!!!!!!!

    Spend the $20 million and get a a PROVEN guy. Dungy, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Mariucci, .................someone.....ANYONE, besides these so-called hot assistants. The NFL is not for nice guy coaches. Look at the teams that win, their coaches are jerks, mean, and don't sugar coat ANYTHING. Watch a coach presser for NE, GB, NYG, Stoolers, SF, SEA, DEN, Balt, They don't mince words.

    Even Dungy, while he's NICE on TV, his players KNOW they are not allowed to fail.

    These assistants don't know how to handle a TEAM. They are to involved with their side of the ball.

    I WANT A HEAD COACH

    Did you just say marriuchi?

    And then say you want a proven guy???

    He was fired before the end of the season on his last gig.

    Take your shit somewhere else would ya.

  • @browns149 said:

    Here is an idea............. Get a head coach that has been a WINNING head coach in the NFL. Since the Browns have returned, they have hired Palmer, Davis, Crennel. Mangini, Shurmur, and Chudzinski. A list of idiots, losers, bad coaches, and deer in the headlights TOOLS!!!!!!!!

    Spend the $20 million and get a a PROVEN guy. Dungy, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Mariucci, .................someone.....ANYONE, besides these so-called hot assistants. The NFL is not for nice guy coaches. Look at the teams that win, their coaches are jerks, mean, and don't sugar coat ANYTHING. Watch a coach presser for NE, GB, NYG, Stoolers, SF, SEA, DEN, Balt, They don't mince words.

    Even Dungy, while he's NICE on TV, his players KNOW they are not allowed to fail.

    These assistants don't know how to handle a TEAM. They are to involved with their side of the ball.

    I WANT A HEAD COACH

    Did you just say marriuchi?

    And then say you want a proven guy???

    He was fired before the end of the season on his last gig.

    Take your shit somewhere else would ya.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Did you just say marriuchi?

    And then say you want a proven guy???

    He was fired before the end of the season on his last gig.

    Take your shit somewhere else would ya.

    He's better then any of the losers we have had.

  • @browns149 said:

    was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.

    So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?

    I'm confused.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'm confused.

    come on TCPO, we've already been through this. you're a vegas showgirl in the body of a fat tranny vegas showgirl.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?

    I'm confused.

    my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB

    @browns149 said:

    my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB

    Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.
  • @browns149 said:

    my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB

    Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.

    Then keep hiring no experience losers. And we will keep losing

  • @erie-dawg said:

    Did you just say marriuchi?

    And then say you want a proven guy???

    He was fired before the end of the season on his last gig.

    Take your shit somewhere else would ya.

    He's better then any of the losers we have had.

    @browns149 said:

    He's better then any of the losers we have had.

    Dude just stfu, you obviously have shit for brains.

    You might as well get shurmer back then if you want the Wco.

  • @browns149 said:

    my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB

    Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.

    when you have a team that is used to losing, you need a WINNING coach to change that. It's easy for the stoolers to hire a no name assistant. They are used to winning. We are not. We need a WINNER to change the thinking here

  • @browns149 said:

    He's better then any of the losers we have had.

    Dude just stfu, you obviously have shit for brains.

    You might as well get shurmer back then if you want the Wco.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Dude just stfu, you obviously have shit for brains.

    You might as well get shurmer back then if you want the Wco.

    Does our off look any different then when Shurmur was here?

  • @erie-dawg said:

    Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.

    Then keep hiring no experience losers. And we will keep losing

    @browns149 said:

    Then keep hiring no experience losers. And we will keep losing

    Easy example Peyton manning. Must be the coach.

    BR must be the coach.

    Drew brees must be the coach.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    Dude just stfu, you obviously have shit for brains.

    You might as well get shurmer back then if you want the Wco.

    Does our off look any different then when Shurmur was here?

    @browns149 said:

    Does our off look any different then when Shurmur was here?

    If you pay attention to the games you would see that it is.

    But you just jump on here and start a circle jerk about the draft and head coaching changes.

  • @browns149 said:

    Then keep hiring no experience losers. And we will keep losing

    Easy example Peyton manning. Must be the coach.

    BR must be the coach.

    Drew brees must be the coach.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Easy example Peyton manning. Must be the coach.

    BR must be the coach.

    Drew brees must be the coach.

    Drew Brees set records last year and DIDN'T make the playoffs without Sean Payton

    Manning has won nothing without Dungy.

    And the stoolers are the stoolers they win no matter what

    You just proved my point

  • @browns149 said:

    Does our off look any different then when Shurmur was here?

    If you pay attention to the games you would see that it is.

    But you just jump on here and start a circle jerk about the draft and head coaching changes.

    @erie-dawg said:

    If you pay attention to the games you would see that it is.

    But you just jump on here and start a circle jerk about the draft and head coaching changes.

    And if you pay attention to titles, they are won by GREAT coaches and QB's not just great QB's

  • @erie-dawg said:

    Easy example Peyton manning. Must be the coach.

    BR must be the coach.

    Drew brees must be the coach.

    Drew Brees set records last year and DIDN'T make the playoffs without Sean Payton

    Manning has won nothing without Dungy.

    And the stoolers are the stoolers they win no matter what

    You just proved my point

    And you totally missed the main point.

    All 3 of those guys Have had a coaching change and it didn't make a difference. They all played at a high level regardless.

    The saints had their water boy as the defensive Coordinator last year. While Payton was missed but bress still got it done regardless.

    Manning yeah he just sucks. Unfortunately when he retires he will be considered the greatest of all time. But if he wins the superbowl this year is it because john fox is the coach?

    How about Don shula and Dan Marino... great coach great qb.. yet no titles.

    @browns149 said:

    Drew Brees set records last year and DIDN'T make the playoffs without Sean Payton

    Manning has won nothing without Dungy.

    And the stoolers are the stoolers they win no matter what

    You just proved my point