TRICH traded to colts
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A few weeks ago a lot of us had hopes for a possible wild card season, maybe even the division; now in only week 2 we have essentially thrown in the towel, that's what really sucks.
A few weeks ago a lot of us had hopes for a possible wild card season, maybe even the division; now in only week 2 we have essentially thrown in the towel, that's what really sucks.
Such a fast fall.
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I am physically ill thinking about this trade. Not because I believed Trent to be a world beater All-Star caliber talent, but because we ended up losing out overall on value.
We traded up to get him at 3, and we're likely to revive a pick between 16-25 for him in return. I love having two first round picks, but we could have easily gotten a later round pick as well for Richardson.
We're gearing up for a big roster overhaul, I believe.
Different Regime.
The current FO can only correct the mistakes of past Regimes, they can't nullify them.
Simple fact is we paid too much for TR (good as he is), I seriously doubt anyone else would have paid what we did for him.
Different Regime.
The current FO can only correct the mistakes of past Regimes, they can't nullify them.
Simple fact is we paid too much for TR (good as he is), I seriously doubt anyone else would have paid what we did for him.
Ya we over paid for him, but why is that used as an excuse to get rid of him? The team is literally saying, here is a player that is worth a mid to late-ish round pick... and we are just going to trade him before week 3. All this move says is that they have given up on the season with 14 games left to play, that they don't give two shits about the fans. Make the damn excuse that you building towards your team goal, but try selling me that shit in the offseason, not two weeks into the regular season. This lay down and die bullshit. Whats even worse is they won't admit it. "Hey season ticket holders, thank for giving us all that money, hopefully these wiener dog races really pan out!"
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They are tanking intentionally to try for Manziel? With our luck it will be a race between us and the stillers for the number 1 draft pick. You know who wins the last game and picks number 2. And I'm certain that trading the number 3 pick for about a 20 will result a player that is like a mad dog in a meat market...lol...Go Browns!
I don't know, it's sounding to me like there are four or five really good QB's in the upcoming Draft.
I seriously doubt the first five picks in the Draft are going to be #1 - QB, #2 - QB, #3 - QB, #4 - QB, #5 - QB.
I think there's going to be some wiggle room between the QB's . . . and for that matter, who even says #1 is going to be a QB ?
I don't know, it's sounding to me like there are four or five really good QB's in the upcoming Draft.
I seriously doubt the first five picks in the Draft are going to be #1 - QB, #2 - QB, #3 - QB, #4 - QB, #5 - QB.
I think there's going to be some wiggle room between the QB's . . . and for that matter, who even says #1 is going to be a QB ?
But are any of them any good?
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There were team going to jump us to get Richardson, that's why we jumped to get him...
Heckert was a Genius. Lombari is retarted.
Prove there was a team that was going to jump ahead of us to get Richardson? We got fleeced on that trade.
Heckert drafted a 29 year old QB who so far as looked pretty fucking shitty, how is that genius label look now?
Prove there was a team that was going to jump ahead of us to get Richardson? We got fleeced on that trade.
Heckert drafted a 29 year old QB who so far as looked pretty fucking shitty, how is that genius label look now?
Bullshit, that second pick was a knee jerk reaction because they lost out on who they were targeting and went into panic mode. They were going to go with Colt, that was the talk all offseason... do you not follow along?
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
End result = multiple Superbowls.
Had the Browns gotten a "bucketful of picks", I'd be celebrating along with you. They did not. They got one mid- to late-first round pick.
And now you guys are excited because they might get a QB with it? They had a chance to do that two years ago, and they took Weeden. I realize these aren't the same FO guys, but my point is that just having first round picks does not guarantee quality picks.
Had the Browns gotten a "bucketful of picks", I'd be celebrating along with you. They did not. They got one mid- to late-first round pick.
And now you guys are excited because they might get a QB with it? They had a chance to do that two years ago, and they took Weeden. I realize these aren't the same FO guys, but my point is that just having first round picks does not guarantee quality picks.
What if TR's replacement comes in here and lights it up?
Last year, outside of a couple of runs, I honestly thought Hardesty had a better YPC than Trent (Stats prove it too).
For all we know, with a change in QB, RB, returning OL, we may put up an unexpected winning streak.
We aren't totally devoid of talent, there have been multiple key position injuries - our D (outside a CB) is looking mighty impressive already.
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You're "out" anyways...what do you care??
Go root for Colt on the niners and Trent on the Colts and get the hell out. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out the door. The rest of us will still be here rooting for the Browns who are actually on the team and not a bunch of guys who play in other cities.
Dude, shut the front door. I'm completely ignoring you right now.
Dude, shut the front door. I'm completely ignoring you right now.
Ignore me all you want...you're the guy who's pissed we didn't overpay Josh Cribbs who is currently out of the league and the guy pissed that we didn't resign Colt McCoy who will NEVER sniff a starting NFL job again in this league, barring injury. And now the last part of your love triangle is in Indy and you're butt hurt because we are losing his 3 yards per carry average for a #3 overall draft pick. Meanwhile Doug Martin (3rd round) and Alfred Morris (undrafted) just to name 2 from his draft class are putting up shitloads of yards more than your boyfriend Trent.
Maybe Jim Brown was right...maybe the dude is just ordinary.
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They Gambled on Weeden and lost. But they hit on Richardson. He's a fan favorite and a heck of a runningback and he can catch and he's hard to tackle and he plays hurt...
Mark my words. Blackout.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Prove there was a team that was going to jump ahead of us to get Richardson? We got fleeced on that trade.
Heckert drafted a 29 year old QB who so far as looked pretty fucking shitty, how is that genius label look now?
Bullshit, that second pick was a knee jerk reaction because they lost out on who they were targeting and went into panic mode. They were going to go with Colt, that was the talk all offseason... do you not follow along?
Bullshit, that second pick was a knee jerk reaction because they lost out on who they were targeting and went into panic mode. They were going to go with Colt, that was the talk all offseason... do you not follow along?
Yeah, I understand that, but is going into "Panic Mode" characteristic of a good leader?
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Prove there was a team that was going to jump ahead of us to get Richardson? We got fleeced on that trade.
Heckert drafted a 29 year old QB who so far as looked pretty fucking shitty, how is that genius label look now?
Bullshit, that second pick was a knee jerk reaction because they lost out on who they were targeting and went into panic mode. They were going to go with Colt, that was the talk all offseason... do you not follow along?
Bullshit, that second pick was a knee jerk reaction because they lost out on who they were targeting and went into panic mode. They were going to go with Colt, that was the talk all offseason... do you not follow along?
A genius doesn't make a knee jerk reaction and draft a guy in the first fucking round in panic mode.
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Dude, shut the front door. I'm completely ignoring you right now.
Ignore me all you want...you're the guy who's pissed we didn't overpay Josh Cribbs who is currently out of the league and the guy pissed that we didn't resign Colt McCoy who will NEVER sniff a starting NFL job again in this league, barring injury. And now the last part of your love triangle is in Indy and you're butt hurt because we are losing his 3 yards per carry average for a #3 overall draft pick. Meanwhile Doug Martin (3rd round) and Alfred Morris (undrafted) just to name 2 from his draft class are putting up shitloads of yards more than your boyfriend Trent.
Maybe Jim Brown was right...maybe the dude is just ordinary.
Ignore me all you want...you're the guy who's pissed we didn't overpay Josh Cribbs who is currently out of the league and the guy pissed that we didn't resign Colt McCoy who will NEVER sniff a starting NFL job again in this league, barring injury. And now the last part of your love triangle is in Indy and you're butt hurt because we are losing his 3 yards per carry average for a #3 overall draft pick. Meanwhile Doug Martin (3rd round) and Alfred Morris (undrafted) just to name 2 from his draft class are putting up shitloads of yards more than your boyfriend Trent.
Maybe Jim Brown was right...maybe the dude is just ordinary.
You telling me going with Fucking Brain Hoyer is better than going with Colt in a pinch... like this week for instance? Colt would do fine as a backup for us. He took a paycut as would Cribbs. This is a fucking Circus.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
The Cowboys got a bunch of picks for Walker. We got one. But what I really don't get is why the hell when they have a full off season to blow it up, they wait until the 3rd week of the season. The true genius of Banner, lombardi is showing? But what do I know?
The Cowboys got a bunch of picks for Walker. We got one. But what I really don't get is why the hell when they have a full off season to blow it up, they wait until the 3rd week of the season. The true genius of Banner, lombardi is showing? But what do I know?
#1 - Injuries
#2 - Weakness actually show up (versus Vanilla Teams in Pre-Season).
Add these two up (there are likely other factors) and you get desperation factor values coming into to play.
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They Gambled on Weeden and lost. But they hit on Richardson. He's a fan favorite and a heck of a runningback and he can catch and he's hard to tackle and he plays hurt...
Mark my words. Blackout.
They Gambled on Weeden and lost. But they hit on Richardson. He's a fan favorite and a heck of a runningback and he can catch and he's hard to tackle and he plays hurt...
Mark my words. Blackout
I don't think a "genius" should be gambling on a first round draft pick who is 29 years old. A #3 overall pick should make the pro bowl and be considered one of the best at his position in the league. Richardson is nowhere close to that level of production at this point in his career. But good luck to him in Indy...I hope they lose every game the rest of the year.
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Bullshit, that second pick was a knee jerk reaction because they lost out on who they were targeting and went into panic mode. They were going to go with Colt, that was the talk all offseason... do you not follow along?
Yeah, I understand that, but is going into "Panic Mode" characteristic of a good leader?
Yeah, I understand that, but is going into "Panic Mode" characteristic of a good leader?
I think that was more on Holmgren and Shurmur than Heckert. I believe Heckert had other things he wanted. Look who he took before. Haden, Taylor, Sheard, Richardson... then Weeden? It don't fit. Don't wear it. Don't buy what the explainationists are selling... go polish that turd some more, it's gonna need to be bright and shiny.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
They Gambled on Weeden and lost. But they hit on Richardson. He's a fan favorite and a heck of a runningback and he can catch and he's hard to tackle and he plays hurt...
Mark my words. Blackout
I don't think a "genius" should be gambling on a first round draft pick who is 29 years old. A #3 overall pick should make the pro bowl and be considered one of the best at his position in the league. Richardson is nowhere close to that level of production at this point in his career. But good luck to him in Indy...I hope they lose every game the rest of the year.
I don't think a "genius" should be gambling on a first round draft pick who is 29 years old. A #3 overall pick should make the pro bowl and be considered one of the best at his position in the league. Richardson is nowhere close to that level of production at this point in his career. But good luck to him in Indy...I hope they lose every game the rest of the year.
He is considered to be top 5 at his position.
This FO can't hold their load. Multiple teams would have given up much more to have a back like Richardson..
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I'll always be the smoke in the room, alas Richardson, ye left us too soon.
I really saw potential in this Group. They wouldn't even allow one game with Richardson and Gordon on the field together, with Cameron in the middle and Bess working the perimeter. Huh, such is life in Brownstown. Truly sad day for Browns Fans. Hosed again.
I'll always be the smoke in the room, alas Richardson, ye left us too soon.
I really saw potential in this Group. They wouldn't even allow one game with Richardson and Gordon on the field together, with Cameron in the middle and Bess working the perimeter. Huh, such is life in Brownstown. Truly sad day for Browns Fans. Hosed again.
I liked Trent too (even though I thought we paid too much for him), we just don't/didn't have the supporting cast for him to function well here.
Makes me think of the Lions with Barry Sanders (and that's all they had) - but he'd still on occasion just flat out light it up.
We didn't even have that.
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Ignore me all you want...you're the guy who's pissed we didn't overpay Josh Cribbs who is currently out of the league and the guy pissed that we didn't resign Colt McCoy who will NEVER sniff a starting NFL job again in this league, barring injury. And now the last part of your love triangle is in Indy and you're butt hurt because we are losing his 3 yards per carry average for a #3 overall draft pick. Meanwhile Doug Martin (3rd round) and Alfred Morris (undrafted) just to name 2 from his draft class are putting up shitloads of yards more than your boyfriend Trent.
Maybe Jim Brown was right...maybe the dude is just ordinary.
You telling me going with Fucking Brain Hoyer is better than going with Colt in a pinch... like this week for instance? Colt would do fine as a backup for us. He took a paycut as would Cribbs. This is a fucking Circus.
You telling me going with Fucking Brain Hoyer is better than going with Colt in a pinch... like this week for instance? Colt would do fine as a backup for us. He took a paycut as would Cribbs. This is a fucking Circus.
Yes...Colt sucks..he had his chance. He's a career backup. He's done, finished, over, kaput. He will never be a regular starter (barring injury) in this league again. Cribbs has teams just beating down his door to play doesn't he? That's why he's sitting at home watching the games on Sunday. He's has as much value to an NFL team as I do right now.
And once again...don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. I'm sure there are other teams that will be happy to make room for you on their bandwagon. I'll stay here and be a Browns fan.
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Dog. No motherfucking loyalty. Cribbs put everything on the line for us. Don't fucking talk about Cribbs.
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I do. I also realize that another draft and Free Agent period have passed and we still don't have a WR. Did the new guys do something in this year's draft that I should find amazing? Mingo looks decent but, as others have said in this forum about Richardson, I doubt he's going to take us to the playoffs anytime soon.
Gordon has the potential to be elite.
He makes catching look like childs play.
If he gets his head straight and puts in the effort he will be a phenomenal WR.
Bess is also very good, but he doesn't have the size/speed to be an elite WR.
The pieces are starting to come together, it just takes time.
Gordon has the potential to be elite.
He makes catching look like childs play.
If he gets his head straight and puts in the effort he will be a phenomenal WR.
Bess is also very good, but he doesn't have the size/speed to be an elite WR.
The pieces are starting to come together, it just takes time.
Lol, so Gordon, who ranked 38th among receivers last year, has the potential to be an elite WR. Richardson, who ranked 9th among RBs last year, was average at best and we're better off to be rid of him. Is that right? I'm not saying that Gordon is bad or that he won't eventually be good, but it seems like we're taking radically different approaches to how we're viewing Gordon and Richardson. How is it that Richardson is a bust and Gordon has elite potential?
And I agree that it does take time for the pieces to come together. That's why I think it was a little premature to dump Richardson for one pick.
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Yeah, I understand that, but is going into "Panic Mode" characteristic of a good leader?
I think that was more on Holmgren and Shurmur than Heckert. I believe Heckert had other things he wanted. Look who he took before. Haden, Taylor, Sheard, Richardson... then Weeden? It don't fit. Don't wear it. Don't buy what the explainationists are selling... go polish that turd some more, it's gonna need to be bright and shiny.
I think that was more on Holmgren and Shurmur than Heckert. I believe Heckert had other things he wanted. Look who he took before. Haden, Taylor, Sheard, Richardson... then Weeden? It don't fit. Don't wear it. Don't buy what the explainationists are selling... go polish that turd some more, it's gonna need to be bright and shiny.
Of course...You have proof of this right? Or is this just something else you're pulling out of your ass? Just like you have proof there was another team who was willing to trade up above us or are you talking out of your ass again?
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Any long time fan KNOWS what will happen this year. Trent will carry the Colts deep in the playoffs with a stellar year and we get their 28th or so pick. In the meantime we get a bag of cotton candy for Haden from the Titans and 64 blows his achielles out. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
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