TRICH traded to colts
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It's not that everyone WANTS more, though. You're making it sound like Browns fans WANT more simply because they are Browns fans and everyone always wants more. The TRUTH is that people outside of the situation, with no stake on the Browns side, think that it was an awfully low price for him.
That's not what I was saying I was just pointing out everyone for some reason thinks we should have gotten more, including the people outside of the situation, when really we got a fair return for a below average (statistically) running back in a passing league.
That's not what I was saying I was just pointing out everyone for some reason thinks we should have gotten more, including the people outside of the situation, when really we got a fair return for a below average (statistically) running back in a passing league.
Does one statistic make it "statistically"? I'm assuming you're talking about YPC, because his other rushing stats were above average. 9th in rushing in a 32 team league is not statistically below average.
The "passing league" thing I keep hearing over and over is interesting. Anyone know where Flacco finished in the passing yardage or attempts last year? Seems I heard somewhere that his team had a pretty decent year...
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Carson Palmer had a passer rating of 80.5 in 2011 and got traded to the Raiders for a 1st and 2nd round pick. That second round pick was conditional, and would have been another 1st round pick if the Raiders had made the playoffs in 2012.
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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A front office that "GET"S IT"
It does no good to have a 500hp twin turbo if all you have to put it in is a Yugo. This line is a Yugo...it sucks...it can't pass block, it can't run block. The Browns, NOT EVEN IN HINDSITE, should never have drafted Richardson and Weeden, we knew it then we certinally know it now. The Browns passed on all pro Matt Kaili and future all pro Chance Womack. Thomas,Greko, Mack, Womack, Kaili. Who cares who the running back is...even Weeden could stay upright behind that line. Maybe with the mistakes made with Quinn and McCoy the Browns would have a wideout who can CATCH THE BALL. It's funny how Greg Little develops "short arms" accross the middle. Our line has mastered the LOOKOUT BLOCK. They miss their block turn and yell " LOOK OUT WEEDEN!!!!". The average life of a NFL running back is less than 5 years. Richardson was already damaged goods BEFORE he was drafted, and was damaged further last year behind a better line. Remember the Browns passed on Adrian Peterson and no one keeps bringing that up because of Joe Thomas, even Peterson couldn't run behind this line.The longest average career is held by offensive linemen so doesn't it stand to reason to build your team from the front back? You never see linemen buy the running back a Rolex when he makes all pro or gets the big contract do you? It's alway the other way around. You never see the O line take the QB out for dinner if he keeps them sackless do you? That's always the other way around too
The only fault I see in the trade is I would have like to see a 3rd or 4th round pick if the Colts finish with say the 20th or lower pick..Last year if I recall they picked 24th. This will go down as either the trade that started the turnaround or the one that finished the franchise for good. I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town but kneel at the alter of Sam (47-50-0 0-2 playoffs) and think Marty ( 200-126-1, 5-13 playoffs)almost in the same light. You genuflect at the name Bernie(53-51-1) and think Brian (57-55-0)was great
Time to get over yourselves
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You do realize the guys who picked Weeden and Richardson are fired right?
I'm stunned, but not unhappy...
You do realize the guys who picked Weeden and Richardson are fired right?
LOL... apparently not in many cases...
Biggest stunner of this entire thread was how many people think that the draft price paid for TR should have anything to do with what we got for him.
@mike-h said:
Trent Richardson was never worth the No. 3 overall pick. He didn't look the same this year... Indy is crazy if they think he's going to be able to run behind that o-line if he couldn't behind the Browns'
Really funny how many people are upset about this.
Agree, Mike... From what I've seen of Indy they lean towards zone blocking and TR has shown no aptitude to be the decisive, one-cut back you need there. However, he will catch more balls there. And miss his blitz pick ups to boot.
I would be asking myself why, as a candidate to be a HC for a professional football team, I didn't realize that before I got there.
Let's see...
I'm offered my first HC job by the team I grew up rooting for...
Should I take it? or...
Should walk away from that because they are not destined for greatness five minutes after I sign...
Hmmmmmmm...
Lotta good posts there Cowboy, but that tweren't one of them.
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I became loyal to Richardson after he was a Brown... But drafting any RB in the first round is MORONIC.
Dion Lewis looked better. Running backs are plug and play and TRich lacked some of the basic habits required to be an effective RB. We can plug in any RB off the street and get similar production. The only thing that is rare in a RB is elite speed/burst like McCoy, AP, or Chris Johnson, and TRich woefully lacked in that department. The ability to turn 3 yards into 4 is much less important than turning 4 yards into 40.
Never take a RB in the first round, much less the top 5. We will plug in some scrubs for the next decade and not miss a beat. TRich lacks the elite qualities in the top tier of running backs. He is a very good receiving option IMO that was his top quality.
This league is run by elite quarterbacks. And I think the FO is doing all they can to ensure we find one. I'm not sure we will suck enough for Bridgewater, but now we have the ammo to go after Boyd if he is in reach.
What is Curtis Painter doing? I say he'd make a fine starter for this squad.
2013 Browns: Tank for Teddy, Getting Ready for Teddy.
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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A front office that "GET"S IT"
It does no good to have a 500hp twin turbo if all you have to put it in is a Yugo. This line is a Yugo...it sucks...it can't pass block, it can't run block. The Browns, NOT EVEN IN HINDSITE, should never have drafted Richardson and Weeden, we knew it then we certinally know it now. The Browns passed on all pro Matt Kaili and future all pro Chance Womack. Thomas,Greko, Mack, Womack, Kaili. Who cares who the running back is...even Weeden could stay upright behind that line. Maybe with the mistakes made with Quinn and McCoy the Browns would have a wideout who can CATCH THE BALL. It's funny how Greg Little develops "short arms" accross the middle. Our line has mastered the LOOKOUT BLOCK. They miss their block turn and yell " LOOK OUT WEEDEN!!!!". The average life of a NFL running back is less than 5 years. Richardson was already damaged goods BEFORE he was drafted, and was damaged further last year behind a better line. Remember the Browns passed on Adrian Peterson and no one keeps bringing that up because of Joe Thomas, even Peterson couldn't run behind this line.The longest average career is held by offensive linemen so doesn't it stand to reason to build your team from the front back? You never see linemen buy the running back a Rolex when he makes all pro or gets the big contract do you? It's alway the other way around. You never see the O line take the QB out for dinner if he keeps them sackless do you? That's always the other way around too
The only fault I see in the trade is I would have like to see a 3rd or 4th round pick if the Colts finish with say the 20th or lower pick..Last year if I recall they picked 24th. This will go down as either the trade that started the turnaround or the one that finished the franchise for good. I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town but kneel at the alter of Sam (47-50-0 0-2 playoffs) and think Marty ( 200-126-1, 5-13 playoffs)almost in the same light. You genuflect at the name Bernie(53-51-1) and think Brian (57-55-0)was great
Time to get over yourselves
I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town
We ran Belichick out of town?
So much for another superfan...
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Fuckin factory of sadness.
Some of you ppl are either blinded by bias or are complete morons.
TR was a workhorse back that is easily a top 15 back. He doesn't have break out speed, but how many backs do? He has been running behind LITERALLY THE WORST Oline in the league. Who in the league could run much better than 3.5yds/carry behind the likes of Cousins, Greco, and Schwartz? ****birds chirping****
So we trade a serviceable back that would be a great tandom with Lewis when healthy, for a wild card mid to late 1st rd pick.
What prospects are out there that were targeting? I don't see this is a great draft. Our pick (likely top 3) WILL NOT have the franchise QB we're looking for. Bridgewater, Boyd, Manziel....these guys aren't the answer for us IMO. So......we're going to take another QB that's not the right fit and gamble on a late 1st rd WR/RB/OL etc.
We only needed a QB, another WR for little, at least 1 more OG, and another CB. now we need another workhorse back to compliment Lewis.
I don't like this trade, not going try to spin it positive. It's bullshit wishful thinking, at best.
Frustrated.
Fuckin factory of sadness.
Some of you ppl are either blinded by bias or are complete morons.
TR was a workhorse back that is easily a top 15 back. He doesn't have break out speed, but how many backs do? He has been running behind LITERALLY THE WORST Oline in the league. Who in the league could run much better than 3.5yds/carry behind the likes of Cousins, Greco, and Schwartz? ****birds chirping****
So we trade a serviceable back that would be a great tandom with Lewis when healthy, for a wild card mid to late 1st rd pick.
What prospects are out there that were targeting? I don't see this is a great draft. Our pick (likely top 3) WILL NOT have the franchise QB we're looking for. Bridgewater, Boyd, Manziel....these guys aren't the answer for us IMO. So......we're going to take another QB that's not the right fit and gamble on a late 1st rd WR/RB/OL etc.
We only needed a QB, another WR for little, at least 1 more OG, and another CB. now we need another workhorse back to compliment Lewis.
I don't like this trade, not going try to spin it positive. It's bullshit wishful thinking, at best.
Frustrated.
HAAAAAAAAAAAA workhorse my ass......workshorses don't touch the ball 12-20 times a games..This ain't Earnest, Kevin, Bernie to Slaughter....1st down!! sparky
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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A front office that "GET"S IT"
It does no good to have a 500hp twin turbo if all you have to put it in is a Yugo. This line is a Yugo...it sucks...it can't pass block, it can't run block. The Browns, NOT EVEN IN HINDSITE, should never have drafted Richardson and Weeden, we knew it then we certinally know it now. The Browns passed on all pro Matt Kaili and future all pro Chance Womack. Thomas,Greko, Mack, Womack, Kaili. Who cares who the running back is...even Weeden could stay upright behind that line. Maybe with the mistakes made with Quinn and McCoy the Browns would have a wideout who can CATCH THE BALL. It's funny how Greg Little develops "short arms" accross the middle. Our line has mastered the LOOKOUT BLOCK. They miss their block turn and yell " LOOK OUT WEEDEN!!!!". The average life of a NFL running back is less than 5 years. Richardson was already damaged goods BEFORE he was drafted, and was damaged further last year behind a better line. Remember the Browns passed on Adrian Peterson and no one keeps bringing that up because of Joe Thomas, even Peterson couldn't run behind this line.The longest average career is held by offensive linemen so doesn't it stand to reason to build your team from the front back? You never see linemen buy the running back a Rolex when he makes all pro or gets the big contract do you? It's alway the other way around. You never see the O line take the QB out for dinner if he keeps them sackless do you? That's always the other way around too
The only fault I see in the trade is I would have like to see a 3rd or 4th round pick if the Colts finish with say the 20th or lower pick..Last year if I recall they picked 24th. This will go down as either the trade that started the turnaround or the one that finished the franchise for good. I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town but kneel at the alter of Sam (47-50-0 0-2 playoffs) and think Marty ( 200-126-1, 5-13 playoffs)almost in the same light. You genuflect at the name Bernie(53-51-1) and think Brian (57-55-0)was great
Time to get over yourselves
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A front office that "GET"S IT"
It does no good to have a 500hp twin turbo if all you have to put it in is a Yugo. This line is a Yugo...it sucks...it can't pass block, it can't run block. The Browns, NOT EVEN IN HINDSITE, should never have drafted Richardson and Weeden, we knew it then we certinally know it now. The Browns passed on all pro Matt Kaili and future all pro Chance Womack. Thomas,Greko, Mack, Womack, Kaili. Who cares who the running back is...even Weeden could stay upright behind that line. Maybe with the mistakes made with Quinn and McCoy the Browns would have a wideout who can CATCH THE BALL. It's funny how Greg Little develops "short arms" accross the middle. Our line has mastered the LOOKOUT BLOCK. They miss their block turn and yell " LOOK OUT WEEDEN!!!!". The average life of a NFL running back is less than 5 years. Richardson was already damaged goods BEFORE he was drafted, and was damaged further last year behind a better line. Remember the Browns passed on Adrian Peterson and no one keeps bringing that up because of Joe Thomas, even Peterson couldn't run behind this line.The longest average career is held by offensive linemen so doesn't it stand to reason to build your team from the front back? You never see linemen buy the running back a Rolex when he makes all pro or gets the big contract do you? It's alway the other way around. You never see the O line take the QB out for dinner if he keeps them sackless do you? That's always the other way around too
The only fault I see in the trade is I would have like to see a 3rd or 4th round pick if the Colts finish with say the 20th or lower pick..Last year if I recall they picked 24th. This will go down as either the trade that started the turnaround or the one that finished the franchise for good. I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town but kneel at the alter of Sam (47-50-0 0-2 playoffs) and think Marty ( 200-126-1, 5-13 playoffs)almost in the same light. You genuflect at the name Bernie(53-51-1) and think Brian (57-55-0)was great
Time to get over yourselves
uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore asshat
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I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town
We ran Belichick out of town?
So much for another superfan...
We ran Belichick out of town?
So much for another superfan...
You sure did....Let me remind you of the sign...JUMP ART....AND TAKE BILL WITH YOU.... and yes buttercup the local media HATED Bill because he answered every question "YES" or "NO" they could NEVER get a sound bite from him
Come back when you know what you're talking about
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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A front office that "GET"S IT"
It does no good to have a 500hp twin turbo if all you have to put it in is a Yugo. This line is a Yugo...it sucks...it can't pass block, it can't run block. The Browns, NOT EVEN IN HINDSITE, should never have drafted Richardson and Weeden, we knew it then we certinally know it now. The Browns passed on all pro Matt Kaili and future all pro Chance Womack. Thomas,Greko, Mack, Womack, Kaili. Who cares who the running back is...even Weeden could stay upright behind that line. Maybe with the mistakes made with Quinn and McCoy the Browns would have a wideout who can CATCH THE BALL. It's funny how Greg Little develops "short arms" accross the middle. Our line has mastered the LOOKOUT BLOCK. They miss their block turn and yell " LOOK OUT WEEDEN!!!!". The average life of a NFL running back is less than 5 years. Richardson was already damaged goods BEFORE he was drafted, and was damaged further last year behind a better line. Remember the Browns passed on Adrian Peterson and no one keeps bringing that up because of Joe Thomas, even Peterson couldn't run behind this line.The longest average career is held by offensive linemen so doesn't it stand to reason to build your team from the front back? You never see linemen buy the running back a Rolex when he makes all pro or gets the big contract do you? It's alway the other way around. You never see the O line take the QB out for dinner if he keeps them sackless do you? That's always the other way around too
The only fault I see in the trade is I would have like to see a 3rd or 4th round pick if the Colts finish with say the 20th or lower pick..Last year if I recall they picked 24th. This will go down as either the trade that started the turnaround or the one that finished the franchise for good. I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town but kneel at the alter of Sam (47-50-0 0-2 playoffs) and think Marty ( 200-126-1, 5-13 playoffs)almost in the same light. You genuflect at the name Bernie(53-51-1) and think Brian (57-55-0)was great
Time to get over yourselves
uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore asshat
uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore asshat
ahhhh no dumbass he was FIRED
speak english moron
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belichoke lover
ya fired in baltimore....
and you know what your talking about? lol
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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A front office that "GET"S IT"
It does no good to have a 500hp twin turbo if all you have to put it in is a Yugo. This line is a Yugo...it sucks...it can't pass block, it can't run block. The Browns, NOT EVEN IN HINDSITE, should never have drafted Richardson and Weeden, we knew it then we certinally know it now. The Browns passed on all pro Matt Kaili and future all pro Chance Womack. Thomas,Greko, Mack, Womack, Kaili. Who cares who the running back is...even Weeden could stay upright behind that line. Maybe with the mistakes made with Quinn and McCoy the Browns would have a wideout who can CATCH THE BALL. It's funny how Greg Little develops "short arms" accross the middle. Our line has mastered the LOOKOUT BLOCK. They miss their block turn and yell " LOOK OUT WEEDEN!!!!". The average life of a NFL running back is less than 5 years. Richardson was already damaged goods BEFORE he was drafted, and was damaged further last year behind a better line. Remember the Browns passed on Adrian Peterson and no one keeps bringing that up because of Joe Thomas, even Peterson couldn't run behind this line.The longest average career is held by offensive linemen so doesn't it stand to reason to build your team from the front back? You never see linemen buy the running back a Rolex when he makes all pro or gets the big contract do you? It's alway the other way around. You never see the O line take the QB out for dinner if he keeps them sackless do you? That's always the other way around too
The only fault I see in the trade is I would have like to see a 3rd or 4th round pick if the Colts finish with say the 20th or lower pick..Last year if I recall they picked 24th. This will go down as either the trade that started the turnaround or the one that finished the franchise for good. I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town but kneel at the alter of Sam (47-50-0 0-2 playoffs) and think Marty ( 200-126-1, 5-13 playoffs)almost in the same light. You genuflect at the name Bernie(53-51-1) and think Brian (57-55-0)was great
Time to get over yourselves
uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore asshat
uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.
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If you can convince me that this team isn't\hasn't been a joke since.... forever... please do
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uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.
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uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.
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again....no he didn't dickwad he was fired...He never coach in Baltimore
come back when you know what the hell your talking about
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belichoke lover
ya fired in baltimore....
and you know what your talking about? lol
belichoke lover
ya fired in baltimore....
and you know what your talking about? lol
L oser
O n
L ine
typical Loser in a rust bucket town
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Zombo said:
Just picked up Mcgahee, Rainey and Hoyer in Fantasy.
#GoingDownWithTheFuckingShip
Zombo
Lol Zombo, they are talking about you on the Indy forums hahaha http://forums.colts.com/topic/20688-breaking-news-colts-trade-for-trent-richardson-merge/page-9
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uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.
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uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.
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3 super bowls and you call him Choke?
Oh OOOO kayyyy sparky You be one knowledgable fan
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