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  • belichoke lover

    ya fired in baltimore....

    and you know what your talking about? lol

    W 1 Reply

  • Wow.. trade convo started yeasterday!

    I'd love to know who made the first call.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • F FairHooker11

    @waiting-for-next-year said:

    FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A front office that "GET"S IT"

    It does no good to have a 500hp twin turbo if all you have to put it in is a Yugo. This line is a Yugo...it sucks...it can't pass block, it can't run block. The Browns, NOT EVEN IN HINDSITE, should never have drafted Richardson and Weeden, we knew it then we certinally know it now. The Browns passed on all pro Matt Kaili and future all pro Chance Womack. Thomas,Greko, Mack, Womack, Kaili. Who cares who the running back is...even Weeden could stay upright behind that line. Maybe with the mistakes made with Quinn and McCoy the Browns would have a wideout who can CATCH THE BALL. It's funny how Greg Little develops "short arms" accross the middle. Our line has mastered the LOOKOUT BLOCK. They miss their block turn and yell " LOOK OUT WEEDEN!!!!". The average life of a NFL running back is less than 5 years. Richardson was already damaged goods BEFORE he was drafted, and was damaged further last year behind a better line. Remember the Browns passed on Adrian Peterson and no one keeps bringing that up because of Joe Thomas, even Peterson couldn't run behind this line.The longest average career is held by offensive linemen so doesn't it stand to reason to build your team from the front back? You never see linemen buy the running back a Rolex when he makes all pro or gets the big contract do you? It's alway the other way around. You never see the O line take the QB out for dinner if he keeps them sackless do you? That's always the other way around too

    The only fault I see in the trade is I would have like to see a 3rd or 4th round pick if the Colts finish with say the 20th or lower pick..Last year if I recall they picked 24th. This will go down as either the trade that started the turnaround or the one that finished the franchise for good. I don't live in Cleveland, never have, so I'm a Brown's fan by CHOICE not by where I live and I've watched the media and you fans run the greatest coach of this generation, sure fire Hall of Fame's Bill Belichick (189-101-0 18-8 playoffs, 3 Super Bowls) out of town but kneel at the alter of Sam (47-50-0 0-2 playoffs) and think Marty ( 200-126-1, 5-13 playoffs)almost in the same light. You genuflect at the name Bernie(53-51-1) and think Brian (57-55-0)was great

    Time to get over yourselves

    uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore asshat

    @fairhooker11 said:

    uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.

    corrected

    W 2 Replies

  • If you can convince me that this team isn't\hasn't been a joke since.... forever... please do

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    @mark-o said:

    People way back when thought the Cowboys were stupid for trading a guy named Hershel Walker.... now they got a bucket full of picks for him...but how did that work out in the long run?

    End result = multiple Superbowls.

    @jafbf said:

    End result = multiple Superbowls.

    And someone dropped a boat load of picks for Ricky Williams.... how many Super Bowls did he win?? Puff,Puff, Pass Rick

  • F FairHooker11

    @fairhooker11 said:

    uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.

    corrected

    @fairhooker11 said:

    @fairhooker11 said:

    uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.

    corrected

    again....no he didn't dickwad he was fired...He never coach in Baltimore

    come back when you know what the hell your talking about

    F 1 Reply
  • F FairHooker11

    belichoke lover

    ya fired in baltimore....

    and you know what your talking about? lol

    @fairhooker11 said:

    belichoke lover

    ya fired in baltimore....

    and you know what your talking about? lol

    L oser

    O n

    L ine

    typical Loser in a rust bucket town

  • Z Zombo

    Just picked up Mcgahee, Rainey and Hoyer in Fantasy.

    #GoingDownWithTheFuckingShip

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Just picked up Mcgahee, Rainey and Hoyer in Fantasy.

    #GoingDownWithTheFuckingShip

    Zombo

    Lol Zombo, they are talking about you on the Indy forums hahaha http://forums.colts.com/topic/20688-breaking-news-colts-trade-for-trent-richardson-merge/page-9

    Z 1 Reply
  • F FairHooker11

    @fairhooker11 said:

    uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.

    corrected

    @fairhooker11 said:

    @fairhooker11 said:

    uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.

    corrected

    3 super bowls and you call him Choke?

    Oh OOOO kayyyy sparky You be one knowledgable fan

  • L ledzepfan1

    Zombo said:

    Just picked up Mcgahee, Rainey and Hoyer in Fantasy.

    #GoingDownWithTheFuckingShip

    Zombo

    Lol Zombo, they are talking about you on the Indy forums hahaha http://forums.colts.com/topic/20688-breaking-news-colts-trade-for-trent-richardson-merge/page-9

    @ledzepfan1 said:

    Lol Zombo, they are talking about you on the Indy forums hahaha http://forums.colts.com/topic/20688-breaking-news-colts-trade-for-trent-richardson-merge/page-9

    Well, excuse me for winning.

    2012 Fantasy Champion.

  • Look at this way...We have given the stools 2 games they can win now LOL

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I'm stunned, but not unhappy...

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    You do realize the guys who picked Weeden and Richardson are fired right?

    LOL... apparently not in many cases...

    Biggest stunner of this entire thread was how many people think that the draft price paid for TR should have anything to do with what we got for him.

    @mike-h said:

    Trent Richardson was never worth the No. 3 overall pick. He didn't look the same this year... Indy is crazy if they think he's going to be able to run behind that o-line if he couldn't behind the Browns'

    Really funny how many people are upset about this.

    Agree, Mike... From what I've seen of Indy they lean towards zone blocking and TR has shown no aptitude to be the decisive, one-cut back you need there. However, he will catch more balls there. And miss his blitz pick ups to boot.

    @spectralcow said:

    I would be asking myself why, as a candidate to be a HC for a professional football team, I didn't realize that before I got there.

    Let's see...

    I'm offered my first HC job by the team I grew up rooting for...

    Should I take it? or...

    Should walk away from that because they are not destined for greatness five minutes after I sign...

    Hmmmmmmm...

    Lotta good posts there Cowboy, but that tweren't one of them.

    @tour2ma said:

    Let's see...

    I'm offered my first HC job by the team I grew up rooting for...

    Should I take it? or...

    Should walk away from that because they are not destined for greatness five minutes after I sign...

    Hmmmmmmm...

    Lotta good posts there Cowboy, but that tweren't one of them.

    You misunderstood what I was saying, or perhaps I wasn't clear. I wasn't asking why he took the job. I was asking how he took the job and didn't know what he was getting. Chud was hired in January, which (to me) means he should have been studying up on the Browns before that. This is September. How is he just now figuring out that Richardson isn't what he wants. Had he figured that out before the draft, we could have maybe had a 2013 pick and been a year ahead on this thing. Or we could have had another running back lined up.

    Now, I'm sure you guys will say "Well, he needed time to see how it was going to work," and I'm glad, because didn't about a dozen people on this forum claim to know that Richardson was "sub-par" because last year's YPC wasn't high enough? If a bunch of guys on a forum can figure that out from looking at one stat, why does it take an NFL coach until Week 2 of the regular season to see he's not the guy?

    See where I'm coming from, Chief? Someone's wrong here. Either a layman can't tell whether he's good by looking at last year's YPC, or Chud should have been able to tell before now. One of those has to give.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Oh, and btw, for those YPC fans. I'm not a huge Bettis fan, but I've heard his name mentioned for Hall of Fame consideration. Do you know what his career YPC was? 3.9. Early in his career, he had years where his YPC was 3.2, 3.5, etc. Whether he gets in or not is irrelevant. I think we can agree that there's a fair number of people that would tell you that Bettis was a good RB (I'm not even really one who would admit it), even though his YPC wasn't great at times or over his career as a whole.

  • S Spectralcow

    @tour2ma said:

    Let's see...

    I'm offered my first HC job by the team I grew up rooting for...

    Should I take it? or...

    Should walk away from that because they are not destined for greatness five minutes after I sign...

    Hmmmmmmm...

    Lotta good posts there Cowboy, but that tweren't one of them.

    You misunderstood what I was saying, or perhaps I wasn't clear. I wasn't asking why he took the job. I was asking how he took the job and didn't know what he was getting. Chud was hired in January, which (to me) means he should have been studying up on the Browns before that. This is September. How is he just now figuring out that Richardson isn't what he wants. Had he figured that out before the draft, we could have maybe had a 2013 pick and been a year ahead on this thing. Or we could have had another running back lined up.

    Now, I'm sure you guys will say "Well, he needed time to see how it was going to work," and I'm glad, because didn't about a dozen people on this forum claim to know that Richardson was "sub-par" because last year's YPC wasn't high enough? If a bunch of guys on a forum can figure that out from looking at one stat, why does it take an NFL coach until Week 2 of the regular season to see he's not the guy?

    See where I'm coming from, Chief? Someone's wrong here. Either a layman can't tell whether he's good by looking at last year's YPC, or Chud should have been able to tell before now. One of those has to give.

    @spectralcow said:

    See where I'm coming from, Chief? Someone's wrong here. Either a layman can't tell whether he's good by looking at last year's YPC, or Chud should have been able to tell before now. One of those has to give.

    Yup and I still stand by my first reply... no way does he pass on the job.

    As for taking time to identify team needs... I said after the draft that they were taking a year to be sure of what they had and shortly thereafter that's what they came out I said. Not hard to understand given that they moved from WCO to vertical on one side and 4-3 to 3-4 on the other, but stockpiling mid-round picks was the dead giveaway.

    I found it refreshing that they actually took their time and admitted that was what they were doing. God knows we've had plenty of quick fix artists fall on their faces... including the legendary Paul Holmgren, who undid the best thing we had going since our return to bring in "his guy"... and then panicked in his final year producing an all-time bust of a draft.

    I can wait an extra year for this bunch to get it right... but they need to get it right. Jury's gonna be out a while, but if they fail it won't be for lack of effort... or due to panic.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns

    A few weeks ago a lot of us had hopes for a possible wild card season, maybe even the division; now in only week 2 we have essentially thrown in the towel, that's what really sucks.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    A few weeks ago a lot of us had hopes for a possible wild card season, maybe even the division; now in only week 2 we have essentially thrown in the towel, that's what really sucks.

    HUH???

    Maybe in your dreams....The team is twiggy thin (as we see now) up front, Have 1 corner back and subpar safeties and wideouts that run 8 yards on a 3rd and 10

    PLAYOFFS????

    What’s that? Ah — Playoffs? Don’t talk about — playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game! Another game.

  • F FairHooker11

    @spectralcow said:

    I would be asking myself why, as a candidate to be a HC for a professional football team, I didn't realize that before I got there.

    yea but by your estimation it seems like 20/20 hindsight

    I dont mind Chud making this evaluation and pulling the trigger...

    He (indirectly) did that a few years back as o coodinator when Frye was traded - DA started and well., got our hopes up again for a while at least?

    @fairhooker11 said:

    yea but by your estimation it seems like 20/20 hindsight

    I dont mind Chud making this evaluation and pulling the trigger...

    He (indirectly) did that a few years back as o coodinator when Frye was traded - DA started and well., got our hopes up again for a while at least?

    So Chud is GM too....Banner/Lombardi must be really surprised you fired them

  • Bye Trent. Hope u continue to prove Jim Brown correct for the remainder of ur career.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • Mark OM Mark O

    Any Anti-Trent bias that comes from me is a direct result of certain "Browns Fans" who are now claiming to be done as Browns fans as a result of this trade.

    You know who you are..

    @mark-o said:

    Any Anti-Trent bias that comes from me is a direct result of certain "Browns Fans" who are now claiming to be done as Browns fans as a result of this trade.

    You know who you are..

    I actually have reversed my "I don't give a shit" attitude!!! It reminds me the years when the Indians had Thome, Manny, Nagy in the minors and traded for Sandy Kenny and Carlos.

    I believe this trade will be the foundation or will end this franchise....it's that big...Bigger for Cleveland than the Colts

  • S Spectralcow

    @frenchie said:

    What would you do if you inherited a 4-12 team and by the new season at 0-2 determined that your QB was nothing special and now badly injured, and your star RB was pretty average, slow to the hole, and often injured? It sounds pretty grim. So make some trades, pick up draft choices and start over. Sounds like a plan.

    I would be asking myself why, as a candidate to be a HC for a professional football team, I didn't realize that before I got there.

    @spectralcow said:

    I would be asking myself why, as a candidate to be a HC for a professional football team, I didn't realize that before I got there.

    He was talking owner not coach as the team was 4-12 in Learner's last year and 5-11 under new ownership

    Chud inherited a 5-11 team sparky and to get MY shot......I would even coach the CLEVELAND CLOWNS BROWNS

  • B BaconHound

    It makes sense from a future standpoint but I wait to see how it's handled. You are telling the current players and fans that this season is lost and it is week 3. Richardson wasn't taking this team to the playoffs but he at least made it more interesting. Now this team is completely talentless on offense.

    @baconhound said:

    It makes sense from a future standpoint but I wait to see how it's handled. You are telling the current players and fans that this season is lost and it is week 3. Richardson wasn't taking this team to the playoffs but he at least made it more interesting. Now this team is completely talentless on offense.

    Ah "The Night Watchman" got off work- So many, many comments coming, took me a bit to wade through the 18 pages. As a season ticket holder, ^+1, I don't believe you weasel Banner, and I'm not buying your BS. You officially threw the season in the tank, mid September. We've sucked since 1999, and you're telling me to hang on for a few more years? So you got maximum value for Richardson- and you want to tell me a washed up Willis McGahee is any better? THIS YEAR?

    We just joined in the Bridgewater Bowl. Even if Dumtardi pulls another Joe Montana, Jim Brown & Jerry Rice out of his ass in the 2014 draft, I don't see the rookies taking us to the Super Bowl in 2015- and sorry, I'm running out of years- and patience.

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